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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20396 Perth Gender:	Re: racial discrimination by the government Reply #30 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:40am freediver wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:22am: Like I said Phil, there are plenty of examples of me pointing about both race and sex discrimination on this site. Not sure why it gets you so worked up. I don't like racists Freediver....You are a racist....Why is that so hard to comprehend???
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Reply #31 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:42am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:19am:

The Government should never discriminate against anyone....Taking children away from their parents based on race....Denying legal entry to a country based on race....Putting innocent people in detention centres based on race....Making laws specific to one race....No doubt you don't have an opinion you will share as usual....You were just trolling???

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What children are taken away on the basis of race? (note that 'are' - you can't dwell in the past forever and continue to cloud the truth of those times) ..

Which Aborigines are denied legal entry to Australia? That's a new one... of course if they go for the Two State Solution - their own private Homeland - they'll need visas to enter Australia though, and work permits ...

Innocent Aborigines are placed in detention centres based on race? When does that happen? Asylum seekers are not placed in detention based on race - they are placed in detention pending full processing... if a Pom comes here seeking asylum, he/she will be held in detention until processed as well... it's not 'race-specific' or 'race-excluding'.

You mean the voice was discriminatory? Special laws for special people. That's a relief to see you understand that.

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Reply #32 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:44am

freediver wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 9:27am:

"Do you think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?"

Who is afraid to answer this question? So far we have Mothra and Phil here:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1733787799/160#160

Other likely candidates are John Smith, Brian and Karnal.

Please add to the list.

since you wanted to know what I think I'll tell you.

You're an idiot who doesn't know what discrimination is. Only an utter moron would argue that creating a policy to help the disadvantaged is discrimination.

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Reply #33 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:45am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:40am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

We all know what discrimination is - and it crosses all borders - it is not a purely White privilege ... anyone can display discrimination ...

The default deflection.

"We all know what I mean by discrimination".

We've gone past that long ago... keep up in class....

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Reply #34 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:46am

freediver wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 9:52am:

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Never is the answer for the upteenth time

Why was that so difficult for you?

The only one finding it difficult is you. He said Never the very first time you asked in the other thread. .. you ignored it and kept telling him he was afraid to answer

mix your sleeping pills up with your idiot pills again FD? Grin

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Reply #35 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:47am

John Smith wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:44am:

freediver wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 9:27am:

"Do you think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?"

Who is afraid to answer this question? So far we have Mothra and Phil here:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1733787799/160#160

Other likely candidates are John Smith, Brian and Karnal.

Please add to the list.

since you wanted to know what I think I'll tell you.

You're an idiot who doesn't know what discrimination is. Only an utter moron would argue that creating a policy to help the disadvantaged is discrimination.

Now THAT - Meisty - is 'deflection' from the subject matter!!!

Smithy! Well - we'll ship all the disadvantaged out to places where the jobs grow free and they can cease to be disadvantaged, eh?

Which exactly 'policies' were you thinking of?

.... this is like spearing fish in a Pascoe fish trap - oops ... sorry ... aquaculture business conglomerate ....

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74605 Gender:	Re: racial discrimination by the government Reply #36 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:49am what deflection?> He asked what I thought, I told him are you daft as well as an eternal victim?
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Re: racial discrimination by the government
Reply #37 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:49am

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

mothra wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 9:58am:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 9:55am:

mothra wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 9:33am:

Tell me Fleadriver ... if a law is passed that advantages women, is it sexist to men?

Obviously. By definition. Ipso facto.
A law advantaging one sex means it is disadvantaging the other ON THE BASIS OF sex.

And if the law is about uterine cancer?

A very stupid attempt of arguing sex discrimination.

Men don't have uterses so it has nothing to do with advantage or disadvantage for men or women.

If you want to argue intelligently you have to think of something that can be equally attained or obtained by anyone but the law singles out one category for advantage/disadvantage.

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Oh so you do understand that there are different needs within the community and addressing some needs does not mean discriminating against those who are not represented by the addressing of those needs.

Well done, fruitbat! I think you've grown as a person today.

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Reply #38 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:50am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:45am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:40am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

We all know what discrimination is - and it crosses all borders - it is not a purely White privilege ... anyone can display discrimination ...

The default deflection.

"We all know what I mean by discrimination".

We've gone past that long ago... keep up in class....

Then you'd know that, say, the justice system often discriminates (arguably justifiably) based on circumstances, then.

Words have limitations... 'Discrimination' in itself can be defined in multiple terms such that it requires qualifiers like 'justifiable', 'wrongful', 'positive', 'negative'... etc.

And even then, you will need to defend your definition.

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Reply #39 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 12:29pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:40am:

freediver wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:22am:

Like I said Phil, there are plenty of examples of me pointing about both race and sex discrimination on this site. Not sure why it gets you so worked up.

I don't like racists Freediver....You are a racist....Why is that so hard to comprehend???

Huh

What makes you think I am a racist? Is it merely because you get your panties in a bunch over what I post?

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Reply #40 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 12:31pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:26am:

freediver wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:02am:

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And guess what.....blacks in Oz are most egregiously over-represented in those stats, so government intervention to fix the problem of generational/systemic/cultural-historical poverty among blacks will require governement to "discriminate on the basis of race" to eliminate the gap.

Do you have any evidence that this works?

Of course not; eradicating systemic/generational/cultural-historical poverty, via mandating above poverty participation for all

You want to force the Aborigines to work?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49059 At my desk.	Re: racial discrimination by the government Reply #41 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 12:32pm Quote: He said Never the very first time you asked in the other thread. No he didn't John.
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Reply #42 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 12:36pm

mothra wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:49am:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

mothra wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 9:58am:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 9:55am:

mothra wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 9:33am:

Tell me Fleadriver ... if a law is passed that advantages women, is it sexist to men?

Obviously. By definition. Ipso facto.
A law advantaging one sex means it is disadvantaging the other ON THE BASIS OF sex.

And if the law is about uterine cancer?

A very stupid attempt of arguing sex discrimination.

Men don't have uterses so it has nothing to do with advantage or disadvantage for men or women.

If you want to argue intelligently you have to think of something that can be equally attained or obtained by anyone but the law singles out one category for advantage/disadvantage.

.

Oh so you do understand that there are different needs within the community and addressing some needs does not mean discriminating against those who are not represented by the addressing of those needs.

Well done, fruitbat! I think you've grown as a person today.

So being Aborigine is like uterine cancer.

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Re: racial discrimination by the government
Reply #43 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 12:41pm

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 12:36pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:49am:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

mothra wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 9:58am:

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 9:55am:

mothra wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 9:33am:

Tell me Fleadriver ... if a law is passed that advantages women, is it sexist to men?

Obviously. By definition. Ipso facto.
A law advantaging one sex means it is disadvantaging the other ON THE BASIS OF sex.

And if the law is about uterine cancer?

A very stupid attempt of arguing sex discrimination.

Men don't have uterses so it has nothing to do with advantage or disadvantage for men or women.

If you want to argue intelligently you have to think of something that can be equally attained or obtained by anyone but the law singles out one category for advantage/disadvantage.

.

Oh so you do understand that there are different needs within the community and addressing some needs does not mean discriminating against those who are not represented by the addressing of those needs.

Well done, fruitbat! I think you've grown as a person today.

So being Aborigine is like uterine cancer.

Do you practice being a complete idiot?

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Re: racial discrimination by the government
Reply #44 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 12:57pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:50am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:45am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:40am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

We all know what discrimination is - and it crosses all borders - it is not a purely White privilege ... anyone can display discrimination ...

The default deflection.

"We all know what I mean by discrimination".

We've gone past that long ago... keep up in class....

Then you'd know that, say, the justice system often discriminates (arguably justifiably) based on circumstances, then.

Words have limitations... 'Discrimination' in itself can be defined in multiple terms such that it requires qualifiers like 'justifiable', 'wrongful', 'positive', 'negative'... etc.

And even then, you will need to defend your definition.

And can be further qualified into definitional terms such as: 'positive justifiable discrimination' and 'negative justifiable discrimination'.

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