UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 2:32am:


Not surprisingly, you've entirely missed the point of his comments. He isn't blaming the Bali Nine for his daughters' death, rather he's saying their release (brokered by the Albanese government) into Australia without any need to continue their prison sentence here sends the message that the Albanese government will bail you out if you're caught as a drug smuggler in Indonesia. It sends the message that you won't need to suffer the consequences because Albo has your back.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 8:15am:


No. I clearly understand the problem of drug importation into the country. I almost joined the military. That is, up until a point where I found out that the army is all about picking and choosing which drugs get into Australia and which do not. I mean, yeah, we would have a greater deal of drug deaths in Australia without that intervention. But, that is not addressing the whole problem of the drug producers still sending illicit drugs our way.

Chan and Sukumaran were rightfully executed for being the ringleaders of the drug importation attempt. If you did any research on the topic of these two drug lord wannabes (unless they already were), they did not have a very good reputation in their community. Sukumaran's mother was interviewed a number of times. I have never seen such an acting job by a relative in trying to show emotion, but looking like she did not give a damn. Then there is Sukumaran's sister who showed such drama about the ordeal, she should have gotten a role on "Neighbours". Did you remember that interview she did where she pleaded with the media not to let her brother die. She closed her eyes, and rolled her head around, as if she had practiced this many times over and had to remember her lines.

Michael Chan, at the very least, had appeared to have accepted the fate of his brother, Andrew. I could only form an opinion of what Andrew Chan's parents thought about this situation. They seemed very devastated.

As for the remainder of the Bali 9, I get a strong sense that they were hard done by. Whilst a few of the Bali 9 might well have chanced a pay day back home, the remainder of the group would likely have had no choice in the say. People that knew Chan and Sukumaran have allegedly made statements that the pair had a reputation of threatening death to those that got in the way of their dealing.

The latest Indonesian president must be under some kind of pressure to release the couriers, as I doubt Indonesia is in any financial position to be dictating to a successful nation like Australia. The couriers have done enough time in prison for being naive enough to follow Chan and Sukumaran over to the island and get caught up in a drug smuggling attempt.

Let us be serious here: If I threatened to have your family killed, if you did not do as I said, would you do as I say?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 8:15am:



after 20 years

John Smith wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 2:43pm:


Who cares? Twenty years or forty years or sixty years. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. They should be rotting in that Indonesian prison still.

John Smith wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 2:42pm:


Unless I grew up around Anna, the best I could do is surmise that Anna took the ecstasy tablet out of curiosity, and to fit in with her friends. Ms Wood was looking to be a beauty therapist (or some such name). So, I doubt that she would have been the reading type person.

The worst that I have ever done is fentanyl, as a teenager. And that was prescribed to me by a doctor post-surgery. I have smoked marijuana on a couple of occasions. I would not push myself to be curious about heroin. I did smoke some crystal meth in my late 20s/early 30s. And any other drug that I have taken has been prescribed by a doctor.

There are too many stories about people that die of complications from illicit drug use. A 15 y.o. girl should not have been taking any type of rave party drug. It is too difficult to blame the dealers for Anna's curiosity or willingness to fit in with her "cool friends".

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 3:24pm:


A friend of mine wanted me to join the army, a few years after I had graduated high school. In June 2001, I was getting trained in Cairns to be ready for deployment. Then I was basically told that the army reservist role in East Timor was to keep the peace, but also to help the regulars in transferring drugs into Australian possession.

Australia has chemists that test the quality of the heroin that it imports into Australia. The military know this. Whilst the military are all about protecting Australian security interests, it is more about preventing unwanted drugs coming into the country. But if there is a demand for certain drugs, like heroin or cocaine, the military will get ahold of the stuff and bring it into the country.

As for me, I got a medical to get out of being deployed to Dili (or wherever). It was either getting an ex-girlfriend's boss to write up a medical to say that I was not fit for military service. Or I had to shoot myself in the foot. Pretty much resigning a month into the service was not an option. I was even gaoled for a night for making threats of walking out.

Calling me a "dimwitted moron" for me telling you the truth is one of the biggest insults. If I could take back that month, I would have avoided that army like the plague. Because all they are doing is white-anting the integrity of Australian society, so that thousands of drug dealers can get their financial benefit.

It is also a way to pay off the Indonesians who have been making veiled threats about taking over parts of Australia, ever since Australia helped get Indonesia their independence after WW2. Allow Indonesia (and Malaysia) to sell drugs to Australians, so that the f-wits of Australia can pretend to act all cool injecting themselves with poisons, and go on with a chance of being drug lords themselves.

I have it all worked out. Three months ago, I found out where the drop off points were in town here. I know what I am talking about.

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 6:59pm:



Of course it was peer pressure. It's not something that only she experiences.

As a parent one of his jobs is to teach her to do the right thing, regardless of peer pressure. He failed. If he wants to blame someone, he should look within.