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Sir Eoin O Fada

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Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US
Reply #210 - Yesterday at 3:51pm

thegreatdivide wrote Yesterday at 3:06pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 2:31pm:

thegreatdivide wrote Yesterday at 10:13am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 21^st, 2024 at 2:13pm:

chimera wrote on Dec 21^st, 2024 at 12:49pm:

The South American countries listed have links to drugs and so money for guns. This may not happen in other poor countries. Even with the drug problems, people go to US with its gun deaths, for the money. Does Eoin say gun deaths don't matter?
The argument for guns means the US with the highest gun-ownership rate must be the safest country. yeah, right.

And the argument that more guns means more gun deaths is invalid, if it were true then theUS having the most civilian owned guns ought to have the highest rate of gun deaths, which clearly it does not.

You are still ignoring socio-economic disadvantage and inequality.[u][u] The US does have the highest rate of gun deaths [/u][/u]among wealthy countries, even allowing for 50% suicides by gun.

You thought you could ignore poverty - and inequality within and between nations, when discussing levels of violence in communities, so you asked the inane question: "are poor nations more moral than rich ones"?.

Of course not: poor countries with high inequality have even worse violence stats than the US.

You surprised me, l spend a lot of time in India where inequality is possibly at its highest and the level of violence is low, in fact I spend considerable time among the most disadvantaged, and they are always cheerful and friendly people. Might be the climate.

Inequality in India is more separated than in, eg, higher income countries like Mexico or the US where poor and rich are living in highy urbanized nations;
Mexico and US urbanization rate is c.80%, India is around 35%.

Meaning millions of people - the bulk of the population living in absolute poverty in rural India, never see - aren't aware of - the extreme wealth of the Maharajahs

Bulldust.
They see them on TV in historic movies.
There are no Maharajas, if there were my best mate in India would be one, but the State abolished all Royal titles decades ago, and his family title died with his father.
You seem to think that ignorance goes hand in hand with poverty, not so in India I assure you.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11435 armidale Gender:	Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US Reply #211 - Yesterday at 3:54pm There's also the lack of drugs and guns in India. whatever. Give them guns and they may live longer. or not
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Sir Eoin O Fada

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Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US
Reply #212 - Yesterday at 4:31pm

philperth2010 wrote Yesterday at 11:05am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 8:46am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 21^st, 2024 at 10:24pm:

https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/oX5G1x5djjwzdBqXsyy8qHuFzNY=/750x0/filters:no_ups...

Roll Eyes

Assault rifles are banned.

Bullshit!!!

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Assault Rifle Legality by State 2024

Yes, assault rifles are legal to own in the United States. The United States has some of the loosest gun laws in the world. Therefore, there are lots of types of weapons you can own in the United States, and an assault rifle is definitely one of them. At the same time, assault rifles have not always been legal in the United States.

In 1994, Congress passed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act which made it basically illegal to manufacture or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon. For several years during the 1990s and early 2000s, this assault weapon ban was in place in the United States. The ban was allowed to expire in 2004 without being renewed, and assault rifles once again became legal in the United States. At the same time, if you are interested in owning an assault rifle, you need to take a look at the laws of your state.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/assault-rifle-legality-by-state

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/law/assault-weapons-prohibited/

You still haven’t answered my questions about the claimed banning of rapid firing rifles and shotguns in Australia.
In fact no firearms that were legal before Port Arthur were banned in Australia, in fact and in law.

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Sir Eoin O Fada

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Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US
Reply #213 - Yesterday at 4:34pm

chimera wrote Yesterday at 3:54pm:

There's also the lack of drugs and guns in India.
whatever.
Give them guns and they may live longer.
or not

There is no lack of guns in India, there is a civilian arms industry and any citizen can apply for a licence, either for rifle, shotgun or pistol.
https://www.statista.com/chart/23192/estimated-number-of-civilian-held-legal-and...

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Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US
Reply #214 - Yesterday at 4:40pm

chimera wrote Yesterday at 3:54pm:

There's also the lack of drugs and guns in India.
whatever.
Give them guns and they may live longer.
or not

Ignorance is bliss.
‘’ India has a population of 1.35 billion but it comes a distant second to the U.S. with 71.1 million civilian/illicit guns. China, the world's second most populous country, comes third in the ranking with 49.7 million, followed by Pakistan (43.9 million) and Russia (17.6 million).’’
https://www.statista.com/chart/23192/estimated-number-of-civilian-held-legal-and...

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11435 armidale Gender:	Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US Reply #215 - Yesterday at 4:46pm 1/20 the US rate of guns owned. Could mean something, do you think?
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