Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 22
nd, 2024 at 3:51pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 22
nd, 2024 at 3:06pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 22
nd, 2024 at 2:31pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 22
nd, 2024 at 10:13am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 21
st, 2024 at 2:13pm:
chimera wrote on Dec 21
st, 2024 at 12:49pm:
The South American countries listed have links to drugs and so money for guns. This may not happen in other poor countries. Even with the drug problems, people go to US with its gun deaths, for the money. Does Eoin say gun deaths don't matter?
The argument for guns means the US with the highest gun-ownership rate must be the safest country. yeah, right.
And the argument that more guns means more gun deaths is invalid, if it were true then theUS having the most civilian owned guns ought
to have the highest rate of gun deaths, which clearly it does not.
You are still ignoring socio-economic disadvantage and inequality.
The US does have the highest rate of gun deaths among wealthy countries, even allowing for 50% suicides by gun.
You thought you could ignore poverty - and inequality within and between nations, when discussing levels of violence in communities, so you asked the inane question: "are poor nations more moral than rich ones"?.
Of course not: poor countries with high inequality have even worse violence stats than the US.
You surprised me, l spend a lot of time in India where inequality is possibly at its highest and the level of violence is low, in fact I spend considerable time among the most disadvantaged, and they are always cheerful and friendly people. Might be the climate.
Inequality in India is more
separated than in, eg, higher income countries like Mexico or the US where poor and rich are living in highy urbanized nations;
Mexico and US urbanization rate is c.80%, India is around 35%.
Meaning millions of people - the bulk of the population living in absolute poverty in rural India, never see - aren't aware of - the extreme wealth of the Maharajahs
Bulldust.
Firstly, we do know the US does have the highest rate of gun deaths
among wealthy countries, even allowing for 50% suicides by gun.Secondly, we know poverty and crime are correlated.
Thirdly, we know that higher inequality in any nation whether rich or poor leads to greater violence regardless of access to guns.
You want to assert India is a highly unequal society, but you ignore the effects of urbanization; there is little inequality among the vast millions of rural poor in India.
Quote:They see them on TV in historic movies.
There are no Maharajas, if there were my best mate in India would be one, but the State abolished all Royal titles decades ago, and his family title died with his father.
The rural poor these days might see wealthy Bollywood stars on TV (if they have a TV); but crime in Mumbai itself, with massive slums cheek by jowl alongside modern high rise accomodating the wealthy, is higher:
google
"the crime rate in rural India is generally lower than in cities": Quote:You seem to think that ignorance goes hand in hand with poverty, not so in India I assure you.
"Ignorance" exists among rich and poor in any country (you are a classic example...), even if the poor in rural India are less well-educated and more subject to eg religious superstition.
You have it back to front:
What does go hand in hand with poverty is the associated incidence of crime, confirmed by the correlation between poverty and crime, and further aggravated by economic inequality in a given community.
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