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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25941 Gender:	Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US Reply #60 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 5:18am Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 4:59pm: https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/11eAlqkVb9VoFq-_gKDl9ncpLoA=/750x0/filters:no_ups... I heard someone say once that it was easier to buy a gun than drugs in some places in the US.
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Reply #61 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:55am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 3:36pm:

I know all that and there are still morons on our roads and morons enforcing the road rulel and moronic messages about road safety, yet we still have a road death toll that is complacency defined.
If a sixth or less of that number were shot there’d be screams from the roof tops for Government action.
No one cares a hoot about the people killed in motoring incidents because to do so might interfere with their own lifestyle.

do you think having driving tests and meeting minimum requirement has any effect on the road toll at all? Or do you think if we did away with it all, let anyone drive, the numbers would be the same?

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46675 Gender:	Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US Reply #62 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:10am Lack of marked cop cars on the road is enabling all sorts of entitled behaviors—speeding, dangerous passing over solid lines, red light running, not giving way at roundabouts, ignoring Give Way and Stop signs etc.
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Reply #63 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:36am

John Smith wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 3:36pm:

I know all that and there are still morons on our roads and morons enforcing the road rulel and moronic messages about road safety, yet we still have a road death toll that is complacency defined.
If a sixth or less of that number were shot there’d be screams from the roof tops for Government action.
No one cares a hoot about the people killed in motoring incidents because to do so might interfere with their own lifestyle.

do you think having driving tests and meeting minimum requirement has any effect on the road toll at all? Or do you think if we did away with it all, let anyone drive, the numbers would be the same?

Depends, years ago in Ireland there were no driving tests, one went to the local Garda Sergeant and got the licence and he’d usually say not to drive on the main roads till confident; driving tests were introduced and the accident rate went up, because people had now passed a test and were thus competent drivers, much the same happened in South Australia when they introduced tests.

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Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US
Reply #64 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:41am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:10am:

Lack of marked cop cars on the road is enabling all sorts of entitled behaviors—speeding, dangerous passing over solid lines, red light running, not giving way at roundabouts, ignoring Give Way and Stop signs etc.

Putting more marked cars on the roads is a proven strategy but it costs money both in police expenditure and a serious drop in speeding fines, so is not popular with Government.

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Reply #65 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:59am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:41am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:10am:

Lack of marked cop cars on the road is enabling all sorts of entitled behaviors—speeding, dangerous passing over solid lines, red light running, not giving way at roundabouts, ignoring Give Way and Stop signs etc.

Putting more marked cars on the roads is a proven strategy but it costs money both in police expenditure and a serious drop in speeding fines, so is not popular with Government.

Hence the horrendous behavior and death toll on the roads. Watch some dash cam videos (Aussie Dash Cams/Scotties Dash Cams etc and Tez the Trucky) and you will be horrified.

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Reply #66 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 11:23am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:36am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 3:36pm:

I know all that and there are still morons on our roads and morons enforcing the road rulel and moronic messages about road safety, yet we still have a road death toll that is complacency defined.
If a sixth or less of that number were shot there’d be screams from the roof tops for Government action.
No one cares a hoot about the people killed in motoring incidents because to do so might interfere with their own lifestyle.

do you think having driving tests and meeting minimum requirement has any effect on the road toll at all? Or do you think if we did away with it all, let anyone drive, the numbers would be the same?

Depends, years ago in Ireland there were no driving tests, one went to the local Garda Sergeant and got the licence and he’d usually say not to drive on the main roads till confident; driving tests were introduced and the accident rate went up, because people had now passed a test and were thus competent drivers, much the same happened in South Australia when they introduced tests.

When were driving tests introduced in South Australia? 1906. Weren't that many drivers on the road before that date, Eugene. By 1910, there were 1,350 registered cars. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US
Reply #67 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 11:48am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:36am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 3:36pm:

I know all that and there are still morons on our roads and morons enforcing the road rulel and moronic messages about road safety, yet we still have a road death toll that is complacency defined.
If a sixth or less of that number were shot there’d be screams from the roof tops for Government action.
No one cares a hoot about the people killed in motoring incidents because to do so might interfere with their own lifestyle.

do you think having driving tests and meeting minimum requirement has any effect on the road toll at all? Or do you think if we did away with it all, let anyone drive, the numbers would be the same?

Depends, years ago in Ireland there were no driving tests, one went to the local Garda Sergeant and got the licence and he’d usually say not to drive on the main roads till confident; driving tests were introduced and the accident rate went up, because people had now passed a test and were thus competent drivers, much the same happened in South Australia when they introduced tests.

bullshit

there were 400 000 cars on the Irish roads pre testing in 2013 there were 2.4 million cars
Death toll in Ireland in the year pre tests was 341, deaths in 2013 was 190. Less than half the number of deaths despite more than quadruple the number of cars

https://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-talk/why-roads-are-safer-after-50-y...

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Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US
Reply #68 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 1:29pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 11:48am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:36am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 3:36pm:

I know all that and there are still morons on our roads and morons enforcing the road rulel and moronic messages about road safety, yet we still have a road death toll that is complacency defined.
If a sixth or less of that number were shot there’d be screams from the roof tops for Government action.
No one cares a hoot about the people killed in motoring incidents because to do so might interfere with their own lifestyle.

do you think having driving tests and meeting minimum requirement has any effect on the road toll at all? Or do you think if we did away with it all, let anyone drive, the numbers would be the same?

Depends, years ago in Ireland there were no driving tests, one went to the local Garda Sergeant and got the licence and he’d usually say not to drive on the main roads till confident; driving tests were introduced and the accident rate went up, because people had now passed a test and were thus competent drivers, much the same happened in South Australia when they introduced tests.

bullshit

there were 400 000 cars on the Irish roads pre testing in 2013 there were 2.4 million cars
Death toll in Ireland in the year pre tests was 341, deaths in 2013 was 190. Less than half the number of deaths despite more than quadruple the number of cars

https://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-talk/why-roads-are-safer-after-50-y...

Lacking comprehension, John?
Who said anything about deaths?
I said accidents went up and they did, for how long I can’t say but the road to Ireland’s 1,800 testing officers today was a somewhat rocky one

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Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US
Reply #69 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 1:36pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 5:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/11eAlqkVb9VoFq-_gKDl9ncpLoA=/750x0/filters:no_ups...

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I heard someone say once that it was easier to buy a gun than drugs in some places in the US.

Which is as it should be, in Australia it’s easier to buy heroin than a licenced firearm, after all there is no mandatory 28 day waiting period for your first smoke or injection of illegal drugs.\\

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Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US
Reply #70 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 3:21pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 1:36pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 5:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/11eAlqkVb9VoFq-_gKDl9ncpLoA=/750x0/filters:no_ups...

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I heard someone say once that it was easier to buy a gun than drugs in some places in the US.

Which is as it should be, in Australia it’s easier to buy heroin than a licenced firearm, after all there is no mandatory 28 day waiting period for your first smoke or injection of illegal drugs.\\

You can purchase a firearm in Australia legaly....Try to buy heroin legaly anywhere you dickhead....Australia's gun laws restrict certain weapons and try to ensure firearms are only allowed in the possesion of those with a need who meet the criteria and pass a background check....Americans can have as many guns as they want for any purpose....American's are dying because of their addiction to guns!!!

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Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US
Reply #71 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 3:38pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 3:21pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 1:36pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 5:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/11eAlqkVb9VoFq-_gKDl9ncpLoA=/750x0/filters:no_ups...

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I heard someone say once that it was easier to buy a gun than drugs in some places in the US.

Which is as it should be, in Australia it’s easier to buy heroin than a licenced firearm, after all there is no mandatory 28 day waiting period for your first smoke or injection of illegal drugs.\\

You can purchase a firearm in Australia legaly....Try to buy heroin legaly anywhere you dickhead....Australia's gun laws restrict certain weapons and try to ensure firearms are only allowed in the possesion of those with a need who meet the criteria and pass a background check....Americans can have as many guns as they want for any purpose....American's are dying because of their addiction to guns!!!

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English comprehension, dear lad, English comprehension.

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Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US
Reply #72 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 4:04pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 11:23am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:36am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 3:36pm:

I know all that and there are still morons on our roads and morons enforcing the road rulel and moronic messages about road safety, yet we still have a road death toll that is complacency defined.
If a sixth or less of that number were shot there’d be screams from the roof tops for Government action.
No one cares a hoot about the people killed in motoring incidents because to do so might interfere with their own lifestyle.

do you think having driving tests and meeting minimum requirement has any effect on the road toll at all? Or do you think if we did away with it all, let anyone drive, the numbers would be the same?

Depends, years ago in Ireland there were no driving tests, one went to the local Garda Sergeant and got the licence and he’d usually say not to drive on the main roads till confident; driving tests were introduced and the accident rate went up, because people had now passed a test and were thus competent drivers, much the same happened in South Australia when they introduced tests.

When were driving tests introduced in South Australia? 1906. Weren't that many drivers on the road before that date, Eugene. By 1910, there were 1,350 registered cars. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

‘’ remember my Mum saying she got her driving licence by going to the local police station and was simply handed her driving licence without any test. Doing a internet search for when driving tests began in South Australia only shows gradual driving tests beginning in 1989. If anyone can direct me to a link about when driving tests began in South Australia would be of a great assistance. Thanks’’

Anecdotal evidence from Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Adelaide/comments/1gois4r/when_did_driving_tests_for_a_...

Plenty more on there, some were tested others not, seemed to depend a lot on location, city or country.
Where did you get your information,Brian.you might be able to help them.

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Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US
Reply #73 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 4:09pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 3:21pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 1:36pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 5:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/11eAlqkVb9VoFq-_gKDl9ncpLoA=/750x0/filters:no_ups...

Roll Eyes

I heard someone say once that it was easier to buy a gun than drugs in some places in the US.

Which is as it should be, in Australia it’s easier to buy heroin than a licenced firearm, after all there is no mandatory 28 day waiting period for your first smoke or injection of illegal drugs.\\

You can purchase a firearm in Australia legaly....Try to buy heroin legaly anywhere you dickhead....Australia's gun laws restrict certain weapons and try to ensure firearms are only allowed in the possesion of those with a need who meet the criteria and pass a background check....Americans can have as many guns as they want for any purpose....American's are dying because of their addiction to guns!!!

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Some states even have watered-down gun control laws. If you buy at a gun shop, you have to wait a set amount of days before you can pick up the gun. If you buy at a gun show, there's no waiting period. This is the kind of insanity the NRA has pushed into the pathetic gun laws in America. They're a joke.

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Re: Yet another mass shooting in a school in the US
Reply #74 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 4:26pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 4:09pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 3:21pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 1:36pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 5:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/11eAlqkVb9VoFq-_gKDl9ncpLoA=/750x0/filters:no_ups...

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I heard someone say once that it was easier to buy a gun than drugs in some places in the US.

Which is as it should be, in Australia it’s easier to buy heroin than a licenced firearm, after all there is no mandatory 28 day waiting period for your first smoke or injection of illegal drugs.\\

You can purchase a firearm in Australia legaly....Try to buy heroin legaly anywhere you dickhead....Australia's gun laws restrict certain weapons and try to ensure firearms are only allowed in the possesion of those with a need who meet the criteria and pass a background check....Americans can have as many guns as they want for any purpose....American's are dying because of their addiction to guns!!!

Roll Eyes

Some states even have watered-down gun control laws. If you buy at a gun shop, you have to wait a set amount of days before you can pick up the gun. If you buy at a gun show, there's no waiting period. This is the kind of insanity the NRA has pushed into the pathetic gun laws in America. They're a joke.

Could you clarify?
A very large forum that I use, located in the US and with mostly US posters who talk of buying guns in gun shops and pawn shops and no waiting periods at all.
Here in Australia I can go into a gun shop, present my PTA and license and buy a gun with no waiting period, same at gun shows.

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