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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95730 Gender:	Re: Americas health system Reply #105 - Yesterday at 4:50pm Leroy wrote Yesterday at 4:31pm: Karnal wrote Yesterday at 2:37pm: Do you have a link to that, Leroy? Yes here Strange. This "site can't be reached". Do you have a paywalled version, Leroy? I've been thinking of subscribing to News.Com, dear.
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Reply #106 - Yesterday at 5:03pm

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 4:50pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 4:31pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 2:37pm:

Do you have a link to that, Leroy?

Yes

here

Strange. This "site can't be reached".

Do you have a paywalled version, Leroy? I've been thinking of subscribing to News.Com, dear.

Check with your parents, net nanny might be blocking you.

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Reply #107 - Yesterday at 5:05pm

thegreatdivide wrote Yesterday at 4:37pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 3:44pm:

There seems to be a confusion between availability and affordability of first-world healthcare in the US.

Of course world-class healthcare is available in the US.

Yes I noticed that, early in this thread.

US health care and research capability is amomg the best in the world; the problem is people on the median wage living paycheck to paycheck can't afford it.

That's okay. As Mort points out, Americans are free to put it on the credit card. When big pharma chases them down and they're forced into bankruptcy, Mort blames "easy credit".

As you can see, it's nothing to do with the health care system at all.

WITCH HUNT !!!

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Reply #108 - Yesterday at 5:09pm

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 5:03pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 4:50pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 4:31pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 2:37pm:

Do you have a link to that, Leroy?

Yes

here

Strange. This "site can't be reached".

Do you have a paywalled version, Leroy? I've been thinking of subscribing to News.Com, dear.

Check with your parents, net nanny might be blocking you.

Still not working, dear. Your link says "here".

Links usually have symbols, numbers and writing in them.

You?

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46154 Gender:	Re: Americas health system Reply #109 - Yesterday at 7:12pm Karnal wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 10:34pm: The last thing we need in our country is yet another naughty old sex tourist. I trust this puts the matter to rest. You want to be the only one, paki.
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Reply #110 - Yesterday at 7:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 4:22pm:

aquascoot wrote Yesterday at 4:12pm:

Gordon wrote Yesterday at 3:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 2:53pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 1:50pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 1:23pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 1:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 1:11pm:

Gordon wrote Yesterday at 12:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 11:07am:

Average life expectancy from birth as of 2023.

Australia - 83 years - 8th in the world, behind Japan, Switzerland, South Korea, Singapore, Spain, Cyprus and Italy.

USA - 78.5 years - 40th in the world, behind nearly every 1st-world country.

Obesity rates in USA 41%, Australia 32% so that probably evens out the life expectancy.

And that the wait to see a doctor is 5 times longer in the US than in Australia… and nevermind the exponential difference in cost per visitation.

Any link to that statement?.

Check the image link I posted in the previous page.

Average in Australia is 4 days. In the US it’s 21 days.

A visitation in the US typically costs around $200 without resulting in a prescription. The costs increase exponentially if purchase of drugs is required.

The same graph shows that non urgent surgery wait time in America is 28 days.
The wait time in Australia for non urgent surgery is 48 days.

That’s right… if you’re rich and want, say, plastic surgery, a boob job, some other vanity surgery, or genital reassignment, wait times in the US are shorter…

Suicide, drug ODs, road deaths all at x2 of Australia. All of that alone would skew the life expectancy.

FWIW, I'm not arguing in favour of the American health care system, but you're being very simplistic by not being willing to factor in this data which clearly effects the life expectancy number.

absolutely gordon

the current corrupt USA system , Food and Drug administration, needs a massive restructure.

Why didn't the rapist do that during his first term - too busy putting up 3 miles of chicken wire on the southern border?

Well that, yes, and hanging out with Vlad in the sauna. Two virile, red-blooded Alpha males at the prime of their lives, just killing it.

Oh, and Ivanka and Jared were cashing in on the Chinese voting machines and Saudi sovereign wealth funds. You can't do all that and make America healthy again, Greggery, it wouldn't be right.

The big fella's got a job to do. If you think that includes making health care cheaper, you must have rocks in your head.

VENGEANCE !!!

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Reply #111 - Yesterday at 7:25pm

Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 10:34pm:

The last thing we need in our country is yet another naughty old sex tourist.

I trust this puts the matter to rest.

You want to be the only one, paki.

Oh,there's always room for more, dear boy. I'm sure I saw a naughty old Dane in his socks and sandals sniffing around the Auburn Mosque boys toilets with a long range Pentax round his neck and a big bag of lollies for the kids.

WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE !!!

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Reply #112 - Yesterday at 7:31pm

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 7:19pm:

Well that, yes, and hanging out with Vlad in the sauna. Two virile, red-blooded Alpha males at the prime of their lives, just killing it.

Oh, and Ivanka and Jared were cashing in on the Chinese voting machines and Saudi sovereign wealth funds. You can't do all that and make America healthy again, Greggery, it wouldn't be right.

The big fella's got a job to do. If you think that includes making health care cheaper, you must have rocks in your head.

VENGEANCE !!!

Shifty loser sex tourist talk, paki.

You are doubling down, like creepy turd, like witless duckwit, like sad ****ing dictionary of synonyms and antonyms.

Tapdancing and grimacing like the mongs who have been proven to be. No self reflection for you, retards, only doubling down.

Where did you go wrong in the last 8 years? Why wasn't all your shite bought by the people?

Ohhh... it's the people! They don't understand paki clowns and Slovenian creeps and duck shite idiots. It's the PEOPLE!! A bloody nuisance!

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Reply #113 - Yesterday at 8:48pm

Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:31pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 7:19pm:

Well that, yes, and hanging out with Vlad in the sauna. Two virile, red-blooded Alpha males at the prime of their lives, just killing it.

Oh, and Ivanka and Jared were cashing in on the Chinese voting machines and Saudi sovereign wealth funds. You can't do all that and make America healthy again, Greggery, it wouldn't be right.

The big fella's got a job to do. If you think that includes making health care cheaper, you must have rocks in your head.

VENGEANCE !!!

Shifty loser sex tourist talk, paki.

You are doubling down, like creepy turd, like witless duckwit, like sad ****ing dictionary of synonyms and antonyms.

Tapdancing and grimacing like the mongs who have been proven to be. No self reflection for you, retards, only doubling down.

Where did you go wrong in the last 8 years? Why wasn't all your shite bought by the people?

Ohhh... it's the people! They don't understand paki clowns and Slovenian creeps and duck shite idiots. It's the PEOPLE!! A bloody nuisance!

What PEOPLE? 49% of Americans voted for somebody else. The majority didn't vote at all. And here in jolly old Oz, while you people were off voting for Mette and your Social Democrats, we erected the ALP and the Teals, you silly old thing.

Don't go all populist on us, old boy - not while you've spent the past four years supporting Proud Boys standing back and standing by.

Now, be a good chap and give us a Zizek quote.

Off you go, chop chop.

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Reply #114 - Yesterday at 8:56pm

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 8:48pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:31pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 7:19pm:

Well that, yes, and hanging out with Vlad in the sauna. Two virile, red-blooded Alpha males at the prime of their lives, just killing it.

Oh, and Ivanka and Jared were cashing in on the Chinese voting machines and Saudi sovereign wealth funds. You can't do all that and make America healthy again, Greggery, it wouldn't be right.

The big fella's got a job to do. If you think that includes making health care cheaper, you must have rocks in your head.

VENGEANCE !!!

Shifty loser sex tourist talk, paki.

You are doubling down, like creepy turd, like witless duckwit, like sad ****ing dictionary of synonyms and antonyms.

Tapdancing and grimacing like the mongs who have been proven to be. No self reflection for you, retards, only doubling down.

Where did you go wrong in the last 8 years? Why wasn't all your shite bought by the people?

Ohhh... it's the people! They don't understand paki clowns and Slovenian creeps and duck shite idiots. It's the PEOPLE!! A bloody nuisance!

What PEOPLE? 49% of Americans voted for somebody else. The majority didn't vote at all. And here in jolly old Oz, while you people were off voting for Mette and your Social Democrats, we erected the ALP and the Teals, you silly old thing.

Don't go all populist on us, old boy - not while you've spent the past four years supporting Proud Boys standing back and standing by.

Now, be a good chap and give us a Zizek quote.

Off you go, chop chop.

So ...

2016 - election was stolen by Trump
2020 - election was stolen by Biden
2024 - election was stolen by Trump.

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Reply #115 - Yesterday at 9:16pm

Frank wrote Yesterday at 8:56pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 8:48pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:31pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 7:19pm:

Well that, yes, and hanging out with Vlad in the sauna. Two virile, red-blooded Alpha males at the prime of their lives, just killing it.

Oh, and Ivanka and Jared were cashing in on the Chinese voting machines and Saudi sovereign wealth funds. You can't do all that and make America healthy again, Greggery, it wouldn't be right.

The big fella's got a job to do. If you think that includes making health care cheaper, you must have rocks in your head.

VENGEANCE !!!

Shifty loser sex tourist talk, paki.

You are doubling down, like creepy turd, like witless duckwit, like sad ****ing dictionary of synonyms and antonyms.

Tapdancing and grimacing like the mongs who have been proven to be. No self reflection for you, retards, only doubling down.

Where did you go wrong in the last 8 years? Why wasn't all your shite bought by the people?

Ohhh... it's the people! They don't understand paki clowns and Slovenian creeps and duck shite idiots. It's the PEOPLE!! A bloody nuisance!

What PEOPLE? 49% of Americans voted for somebody else. The majority didn't vote at all. And here in jolly old Oz, while you people were off voting for Mette and your Social Democrats, we erected the ALP and the Teals, you silly old thing.

Don't go all populist on us, old boy - not while you've spent the past four years supporting Proud Boys standing back and standing by.

Now, be a good chap and give us a Zizek quote.

Off you go, chop chop.

So ...

2016 - election was stolen by Trump
2020 - election was stolen by Biden
2024 - election was stolen by Trump.

Sorry, dear boy? Is this one of your programmed hypnotic cues?

I am an Alpha. I hate the Epsilons, they're so awful and hideous.

Oh brave new world with such marvellous things in it, no?

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Reply #116 - Yesterday at 11:01pm

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 4:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 2:53pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 1:50pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 1:23pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 1:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 1:11pm:

Gordon wrote Yesterday at 12:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 11:07am:

Average life expectancy from birth as of 2023.

Australia - 83 years - 8th in the world, behind Japan, Switzerland, South Korea, Singapore, Spain, Cyprus and Italy.

USA - 78.5 years - 40th in the world, behind nearly every 1st-world country.

Obesity rates in USA 41%, Australia 32% so that probably evens out the life expectancy.

And that the wait to see a doctor is 5 times longer in the US than in Australia… and nevermind the exponential difference in cost per visitation.

Any link to that statement?.

Check the image link I posted in the previous page.

Average in Australia is 4 days. In the US it’s 21 days.

A visitation in the US typically costs around $200 without resulting in a prescription. The costs increase exponentially if purchase of drugs is required.

The same graph shows that non urgent surgery wait time in America is 28 days.
The wait time in Australia for non urgent surgery is 48 days.

That’s right… if you’re rich and want, say, plastic surgery, a boob job, some other vanity surgery, or genital reassignment, wait times in the US are shorter…

Just so, Meister. When you put it like that, Mort's truly blessed.

Still, I'm sure RFK Jnr can get those waiting list times down a little shorter. Yes, it'll end up costing a few thou more, but the quicker the better. Mort should be able to get his man boobs whipped off in a flash.

It might take a bit longer to get the shrinks to sign off on the gender reassignment surgery, but I'm sure the Trump administration will pull out all stops.

Some of the things they can do with phalloplasty these days is incredible - especially for illegals and federal prisoners.

DEEP STATE !!!

You're one strange individual, where have I ever indicated that I would want plastic surgery? People are ultimately responsible for their own health and their own finances. People living paycheck to paycheck have a lifestyle that doesn't have room for extra expenses. I worked for a major corporation where I observed over a thousand people making the exact wage and some lived beyond their means, some saved for their future. Some left with nothing, some left with over a million dollars when they retired. Some were in very poor health due to many bad habits, some were the picture of health. I know the price of drugs includes the price of advertising, that is where personal responsibility is needed. Many times we don't know the purpose of advertised drugs but the commercial sure makes them sound desirable. I would like to pay less just like anyone else but at least I haven't become a Doctor junkie like some I know. They always cry about their high medical costs.

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Reply #117 - Today at 12:15am

Mortdooley wrote Yesterday at 11:01pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 4:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 2:53pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 1:50pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 1:23pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 1:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 1:11pm:

Gordon wrote Yesterday at 12:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 11:07am:

Average life expectancy from birth as of 2023.

Australia - 83 years - 8th in the world, behind Japan, Switzerland, South Korea, Singapore, Spain, Cyprus and Italy.

USA - 78.5 years - 40th in the world, behind nearly every 1st-world country.

Obesity rates in USA 41%, Australia 32% so that probably evens out the life expectancy.

And that the wait to see a doctor is 5 times longer in the US than in Australia… and nevermind the exponential difference in cost per visitation.

Any link to that statement?.

Check the image link I posted in the previous page.

Average in Australia is 4 days. In the US it’s 21 days.

A visitation in the US typically costs around $200 without resulting in a prescription. The costs increase exponentially if purchase of drugs is required.

The same graph shows that non urgent surgery wait time in America is 28 days.
The wait time in Australia for non urgent surgery is 48 days.

That’s right… if you’re rich and want, say, plastic surgery, a boob job, some other vanity surgery, or genital reassignment, wait times in the US are shorter…

Just so, Meister. When you put it like that, Mort's truly blessed.

Still, I'm sure RFK Jnr can get those waiting list times down a little shorter. Yes, it'll end up costing a few thou more, but the quicker the better. Mort should be able to get his man boobs whipped off in a flash.

It might take a bit longer to get the shrinks to sign off on the gender reassignment surgery, but I'm sure the Trump administration will pull out all stops.

Some of the things they can do with phalloplasty these days is incredible - especially for illegals and federal prisoners.

DEEP STATE !!!

You're one strange individual, where have I ever indicated that I would want plastic surgery? People are ultimately responsible for their own health and their own finances. People living paycheck to paycheck have a lifestyle that doesn't have room for extra expenses. I worked for a major corporation where I observed over a thousand people making the exact wage and some lived beyond their means, some saved for their future. Some left with nothing, some left with over a million dollars when they retired. Some were in very poor health due to many bad habits, some were the picture of health. I know the price of drugs includes the price of advertising, that is where personal responsibility is needed. Many times we don't know the purpose of advertised drugs but the commercial sure makes them sound desirable. I would like to pay less just like anyone else but at least I haven't become a Doctor junkie like some I know. They always cry about their high medical costs.

The sick tend to do that, dear.

No worries, the sickos can put it on the credit card and declare bankruptcy when they're done. Then you can blame their creditors.

With any luck, they'll hurry up and die. Maybe RFK Jnr can be tasked with bringing their funeral costs down too.

SEND THEM BACK !!!

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