Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 11:09pm:


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These nuclear plants are not in production for sale. Potato cannot even buy one yet.

The type being pushed by the Potato (SMR's) is a system which is not in production use anywhere in the world, they are not even commercially available. Yes it is unproven. There is no plan to use a 1954 nuclear plant in Australia, these were never safe to begin with.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 2:27pm:


It's clear to all (but you, obviously) that so-called renewables aren't up to the task of keeping the lights on when we have blackouts and brownouts in Sydney and other cities on hot days because there isn't enough baseload power to cope with increased demand.

Let's be fair and actually look at this - this is a valid discussion site - not a blog ad hom rampage.... those people aren't out of bed yet ... outstanding input from the Usual Suspects in the past week or so, given that it is holidays time - how odd.... office hours - who actually employs these people to rant and rave and insult and abuse others to try to push their 'narrative' and 'agenda'?

https://environmentalprogress.org/nuclear-deaths

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_power_accidents_by_country

https://world-nuclear.org/nuclear-essentials/what-are-the-effects-of-nuclear-acc...

https://www.processindustryforum.com/energy/five-worst-nuclear-disasters-history

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0301479720307106

Got more chance of dying in an air crash or on the roads this Christmas....

In both China and the US, the cheap fuel that actually powers their economies comes from coal and gas. Both understand the limits of wind and solar. Both have decided there is no road to net zero and stable grids that does not run through nuclear power.


Australia has abundant coal and gas resources and one-third of the world’s uranium. Our energy ministers have condemned all three power sources because they are way smarter than the Yanks and the Chinese and it’s sunny here.

These ministers, and the uncountable legions of advisers, agencies and advocates responsible for the grid under construction, are inflicting the greatest act of self-harm in our nation’s history. They have set us on a pathway to poverty. When the sun sets on this idiocy we will, too late, have to use nuclear energy or continue to burn coal and gas.

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2024 at 9:22am:



And you think it won't happen without them?

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2024 at 9:22am:


Because ALP state governments have been closing coal fired power stations and there aren't enough to take up the slack, and wind/solar sources are simply too unreliable. China is building new coal fired power stations regularly.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2024 at 7:18am:


What is the point of your rant....Australia is not going to build and new coal fired power plants and the existing coal plants are unreliable when most needed....The cause of the blackouts you are bitching about was from coal generators failing you smacking dickhead....The climate cannot afford Peter Potato Head Dutton's fossil fuel solution!!!

lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2024 at 11:55am:


You mean effective government management - NOT the "market" beloved by obsolete mainstream economists -  is required to transition from fossils to renewables  - who knew?