greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30
th, 2024 at 10:40am:
Frank wrote on Dec 30
th, 2024 at 10:35am:
Trump is bringing change, whether you like it or not, whether you approve or not.
I thought you conservatives didn't like change.
That's because you are an ignorant, idelogically-driven idiot, creep.
Conservatives like piecemeal change, gradual change, recognising real changes in the real world.
They are not ideologically driven for a brand new world by revolution and re-engineering of human souls.
Bismarck in Germany was a conservative. He introduced the welfare state. Disraeli was a Tory PM and extended the franchise to the working class in 1867.
Menzies was a conservative and presided over the great post-war development of Australia. Thatcher brought change to sclerotic Labour Britain and Reagan to the US. Together they ended the Soviet union and with it the cold war- a pretty significant change.
And so on and so forth.
Those who might be prepared to review and possibly revise their understanding (a conservative thing to do, I know), here is a little overview:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/conservatism/Conservatism-and-nationalism