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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3982 Gender:	First Nations? Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 6:45am BS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-hwUF1hZzU&t=164s
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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10273 Melbourne Gender:	Re: First Nations? Reply #1 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 12:31pm You need to enclose the link within the [ media ] [ / media ] format button. (without the spaces) click on the "insert media" button - the one that looks like this:
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20597 Gordon Gender:	Re: First Nations? Reply #2 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 1:55pm Good video, says it all. There was no nation, just a bunch of dispersed and disconnected rudimentary hunter gatherers who had little to do with other groups outside of their local areas.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46211 Gender:	Re: First Nations? No, first mobs Reply #3 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 2:36pm Gordon wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 1:55pm: Good video, says it all. There was no nation, just a bunch of dispersed and disconnected rudimentary hunter gatherers who had little to do with other groups outside of their local areas. First Mobs.
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Reply #4 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 2:48pm

Series of Invasions by Invaders who then Invaded constantly to take the food sources.... nothing different about THE Invasion - the sort of D-Day of Oz - apart from the fact that it brought organised civilisation, cultivation, science, and legal protections with it.

What I termed the Aboriginal Imperialism concept - whereby the Great Head Mobber with many spears at his back (ouch - et tu, Brutamagunyah) would look upon the silent majesty of the sweeping New Homeland - and declare - "This Is All Mine!" ... and then would take it by the spear, murdering the locals along the way.

Then - looking over his shoulder - he saw another Divine Group coming over the horizon... and so it went on and on.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41839	Re: First Nations? Reply #5 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 3:38pm Gordon wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 1:55pm: Good video, says it all. There was no nation, just a bunch of dispersed and disconnected rudimentary hunter gatherers who had little to do with other groups outside of their local areas. And who is to say that they cannot develop a sense of nationhood post settlement? Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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Reply #6 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 3:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 3:38pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 1:55pm:

Good video, says it all.

There was no nation, just a bunch of dispersed and disconnected rudimentary hunter gatherers who had little to do with other groups outside of their local areas.

And who is to say that they cannot develop a sense of nationhood post settlement? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

So that makes them...second nation Grin

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Reply #7 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 4:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 3:38pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 1:55pm:

Good video, says it all.

There was no nation, just a bunch of dispersed and disconnected rudimentary hunter gatherers who had little to do with other groups outside of their local areas.

And who is to say that they cannot develop a sense of nationhood post settlement? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Yes - it's called Australian.... tsk, tsk, tsk.

So now some hypothetical 'sense of nationhood' means they were and are a nation?

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Reply #8 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 5:26pm

I say. Hand the country over to the Cheer Mob.
Let them feed 26 million people, run the country, economy, etc. 26 million people will sit on the Dole and ask for handouts. I bet the Aborigines will capitulate or the 26 million natives will uprise in revolution.
It can't be said then, that they weren't given a fair go, in the eyes of the world.

Anyway. Aboriginalism here is a portal to Africa, as is Mohommedism for the Middle East. People don't want to live here as if it's Africa. It's bad enough this country is operating as if it's a part of Asia, in the first place. Roll Eyes

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Reply #9 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 5:35pm

Gordon wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 3:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 3:38pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 1:55pm:

Good video, says it all.

There was no nation, just a bunch of dispersed and disconnected rudimentary hunter gatherers who had little to do with other groups outside of their local areas.

And who is to say that they cannot develop a sense of nationhood post settlement? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

So that makes them...second nation Grin

Yeah, Doktor Bbwiyawn is that stupid.

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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3982 Gender:	Re: First Nations? Reply #10 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 9:10pm Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 12:31pm: You need to enclose the link within the [ media ] [ / media ] format button. (without the spaces) click on the "insert media" button - the one that looks like this: http://www.ozpolitic.com/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/media.gif I tried that - it didn't work
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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3982 Gender:	Re: First Nations? Reply #11 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 9:13pm Like this:
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Reply #12 - Dec 24^th, 2024 at 6:08am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 3:38pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 1:55pm:

Good video, says it all.

There was no nation, just a bunch of dispersed and disconnected rudimentary hunter gatherers who had little to do with other groups outside of their local areas.

And who is to say that they cannot develop a sense of nationhood post settlement? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Another Brianism, he invents them every now and then.

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Reply #13 - Dec 24^th, 2024 at 7:53am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 24^th, 2024 at 6:08am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 3:38pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 1:55pm:

Good video, says it all.

There was no nation, just a bunch of dispersed and disconnected rudimentary hunter gatherers who had little to do with other groups outside of their local areas.

And who is to say that they cannot develop a sense of nationhood post settlement? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Another Brianism, he invents them every now and then.

Is that a direct offshoot of Pascoism - or a separate branch of learning?

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Reply #14 - Dec 24^th, 2024 at 12:05pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 4:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 3:38pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 1:55pm:

Good video, says it all.

There was no nation, just a bunch of dispersed and disconnected rudimentary hunter gatherers who had little to do with other groups outside of their local areas.

And who is to say that they cannot develop a sense of nationhood post settlement? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Yes - it's called Australian.... tsk, tsk, tsk.

A nation that has essentially ignored their development throughout it's short history.

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So now some hypothetical 'sense of nationhood' means they were and are a nation?

They are as much a nation as any other. Most nations consist of disparate cultural and language groups. Switzerland has three distinct language and cultural groups. Italy has many cultural groups. France many. Belgium two. China hundreds, India many. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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