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Former democrat calls party toxic.
Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 8:38pm

Time to cancel Manchin.

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As Joe Manchin prepares to leave Congress after nearly 15 years, the West Virginia senator — who left the Democratic Party and registered as an independent earlier this year — is further distancing himself from his former party, calling the Democratic brand “toxic.”

“The D-brand has been so maligned from the standpoint of, it’s just, it’s toxic,” Manchin told CNN’s Manu Raju in an interview that aired Sunday, citing the shift as the reason why he left the party.

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Reply #1 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 9:14pm

Manchin has been a republican in all but name since the beginning. He is politically to the right of most republicans. He was one of the most corporate of corporate democrats. He came from Oil he owned oil and he mostly legislated for oil, he did deals for oil and he blocked moves against oil.

Manchin scuttled much of Bidens early initiatives, he could be the reason that the US have a convicted criminal and former failed President about to illegitimately take office in clear breach of the constitution.

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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 17620 Gender:	Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Reply #2 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 9:56pm So did Manchin vote republican during Joe's term of office? The answer will shock Dnarever. He voted against three times during Biden's term. The last one when the Dem's tried to take control of the National Labor Relations Board in a desperate move this month. And two Nay votes were won by Biden anyway.
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Reply #3 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 10:44pm

lee wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 9:56pm:

So did Manchin vote republican during Joe's term of office? The answer will shock Dnarever.

He voted against three times during Biden's term. The last one when the Dem's tried to take control of the National Labor Relations Board in a desperate move this month. And two Nay votes were won by Biden anyway. Wink

It goes without saying that Manchin does not tow the party line so therefore he eats babies with Trump.

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Reply #4 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 11:26pm

lee wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 9:56pm:

So did Manchin vote republican during Joe's term of office? The answer will shock Dnarever.

He voted against three times during Biden's term. The last one when the Dem's tried to take control of the National Labor Relations Board in a desperate move this month. And two Nay votes were won by Biden anyway. Wink

Manchin negotiated all the substance out of one Biden policy after the next. A number of biden policies were not put forward when Manchen determined that he would vote against them.

These were all removed from Build Back Better.

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Build Back Better plan, which would provide universal pre-K, expand health-care access, and supply generous tax incentives for green energy,

Manchin went on FOX news to announce that he was going to cut the Build Back Better spending in half.

He then had coal industry green initiatives removed from the bill. (His family is involved in the coal industry), He killed child tax credits.

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Reply #5 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 11:28pm

Leroy wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 10:44pm:

lee wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 9:56pm:

So did Manchin vote republican during Joe's term of office? The answer will shock Dnarever.

He voted against three times during Biden's term. The last one when the Dem's tried to take control of the National Labor Relations Board in a desperate move this month. And two Nay votes were won by Biden anyway. Wink

It goes without saying that Manchin does not tow the party line so therefore he eats babies with Trump.

Nobody ever said that either eat babies. Though one is a criminal insurrectionist sex offender and the other was a DINO. Maybe they were both DINO's.

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Reply #6 - Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 11:39pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 11:28pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 10:44pm:

lee wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 9:56pm:

So did Manchin vote republican during Joe's term of office? The answer will shock Dnarever.

He voted against three times during Biden's term. The last one when the Dem's tried to take control of the National Labor Relations Board in a desperate move this month. And two Nay votes were won by Biden anyway. Wink

It goes without saying that Manchin does not tow the party line so therefore he eats babies with Trump.

Nobody ever said that either eat babies. Though one is a criminal insurrectionist sex offender and the other was a DINO. Maybe they were both DINO's.

Its just a metaphor, you know like haters are going to hate.

Thats why he is calling them toxic, instead of looking at why he made the comments and reassuring the voters they will accept criticism they attack him and don't address the actual issue.
that is the actions of someone like Putin, he too does not take criticism very well. This will be followed by some dog whistle about Trump.

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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13624 Colorado Gender:	Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Reply #7 - Dec 24^th, 2024 at 3:07am Leroy wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 8:38pm: Time to cancel Manchin. Dumbass RuZzian bot. Manchin was never a Democrat.
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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 17620 Gender:	Re: Former democrat calls party toxic. Reply #8 - Dec 24^th, 2024 at 1:46pm Dnarever wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 11:26pm: These were all removed from Build Back Better. Quote: Build Back Better plan, which would provide universal pre-K, expand health-care access, and supply generous tax incentives for green energy, Ah yes. Green energy. That magic elixir.
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Reply #9 - Dec 24^th, 2024 at 2:06pm

Toxic party? Undecided

Matt Gaetz ethics report says his drug use and sex with a minor violated state laws

Former Rep. Matt Gaetz, a Florida Republican who briefly stood to become President-elect Donald Trump's nominee to be attorney general, was found by congressional ethics investigators to have paid numerous women — including a 17-year-old girl — for sex, and to have purchased and used illegal drugs, including from his Capitol Hill office.

"The Committee determined there is substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz violated House Rules and other standards of conduct prohibiting prostitution, statutory rape, illicit drug use, impermissible gifts, special favors or privileges, and obstruction of Congress," the 37-page report concludes.

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Reply #10 - Dec 24^th, 2024 at 6:52pm

Leroy wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 11:39pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 11:28pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 10:44pm:

lee wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2024 at 9:56pm:

So did Manchin vote republican during Joe's term of office? The answer will shock Dnarever.

He voted against three times during Biden's term. The last one when the Dem's tried to take control of the National Labor Relations Board in a desperate move this month. And two Nay votes were won by Biden anyway. Wink

It goes without saying that Manchin does not tow the party line so therefore he eats babies with Trump.

Nobody ever said that either eat babies. Though one is a criminal insurrectionist sex offender and the other was a DINO. Maybe they were both DINO's.

Its just a metaphor, you know like haters are going to hate.

Thats why he is calling them toxic, instead of looking at why he made the comments and reassuring the voters they will accept criticism they attack him and don't address the actual issue.
that is the actions of someone like Putin, he too does not take criticism very well. This will be followed by some dog whistle about Trump.

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Its just a metaphor, you know like haters are going to hate.

You know that every topic doesn't have to come back to Trump right ?

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Reply #11 - Dec 24^th, 2024 at 7:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24^th, 2024 at 2:06pm:

including a 17-year-old girl — for sex

"The District Of Columbia Age of Consent is 16 years old. In the United States, the age of consent is the minimum age at which an individual is considered legally old enough to consent to participation in sexual activity. Individuals aged 15 or younger in District Of Columbia are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape."

https://www.ageofconsent.net/states/district-of-columbia

It seems the Committee shot its load early. Wink

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Reply #12 - Dec 24^th, 2024 at 7:41pm

lee wrote on Dec 24^th, 2024 at 7:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24^th, 2024 at 2:06pm:

including a 17-year-old girl — for sex

"The District Of Columbia Age of Consent is 16 years old. In the United States, the age of consent is the minimum age at which an individual is considered legally old enough to consent to participation in sexual activity. Individuals aged 15 or younger in District Of Columbia are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape."

https://www.ageofconsent.net/states/district-of-columbia

It seems the Committee shot its load early. Wink

Nobody mentioned age of consent.

The allegation is that he had sex with a child.

A 17 year old is a child, not an adult.

Seems you shot your load early.

Leroy wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 9:24am:

In my opinion the only thing worse than a pedophile is people that protect pedophiles.

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Reply #13 - Dec 24^th, 2024 at 7:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Nobody mentioned age of consent.

The allegation is that he had sex with a child.

A 17 year old is a child, not an adult.

No it is 16 in most states. However, further research shows it was in Florida, which has an 18 year age of consent.

You can have sex in Washington DC with a 17 year old, and no penalty. I hope I cleared that up for you. Wink

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Reply #14 - Dec 24^th, 2024 at 7:49pm

lee wrote on Dec 24^th, 2024 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Nobody mentioned age of consent.

The allegation is that he had sex with a child.

A 17 year old is a child, not an adult.

No it is 16 in most states. However, further research shows it was in Florida, which has an 18 year age of consent.

You can have sex in Washington DC with a 17 year old, and no penalty. I hope I cleared that up for you. Wink

You're confusing 'age of consent' with 'adulthood'.

Nobody, absolutely nobody, mentioned age of consent.

The allegation is that he had sex with a child/minor.

A 17 year old is a child, not an adult.

"In the United States, a minor is any individual under the specified “age of majority” for their state or territory., All states define an age of majority, which is usually set at 18, but states like Indiana and Mississippi set it at 21, while in Alabama, Colorado, Maryland, or Nebraska, the age of majority is 19."

He

f

ucked a minor.

Leroy wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 9:24am:

In my opinion the only thing worse than a pedophile is people that protect pedophiles.

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