Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send Topic Print
Bird flu and human to human transmission (Read 72 times)
Jovial Monk
Moderator
*****
Offline


Dogs not cats!

Posts: 46890
Gender: male
Bird flu and human to human transmission
Yesterday at 8:41am
 
Humans have caught bird flu from other types of critters but human to human transmission is the fear as a new pandemic could arise.

A case in the US has heightened that fear:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2024/12/27/bird-flu-mutation-united-s...

Quote:
First severe human case of bird flu in US shows 'concerning' mutation, CDC says


Viruses mutate. If the virus mutates into a very deadly strain it causes bulk deaths of the population the virus attacks, killing trillions of the virus. Other, milder mutations don’t increase the lethality of the virus but may require booster vaccinations, e.g. the yearly ’flu shot.

Quote:
The first severe case of bird flu in the U.S. is showing signs of mutation, stoking fears that the virus could become more transmissible among humans, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has announced.

The sample taken from the patient in Louisiana showed mutations in the gene responsible with attaching to a host's cells, the CDC said Thursday.

The CDC has confirmed a total of 66 human cases of bird flu across the United States as of Friday, although the number is believed to be higher. While the human cases have been mostly mild, the H5N1 bird flu outbreak has wreaked havoc in the American egg industry and heightened concerns about a new pandemic.


Good hygiene is the first line of defence—wash your hands after contact with animals even the family pet! Wash hands before preparing food, after visits to the WC etc etc. Basic stuff but crucial. I remember reading about a case in Australia where someone had worked with horses getting some horse saliva on his hands that he did not wash—one unnecessary casualty.

Quote:
Officials across the country are becoming increasingly concerned that bird flu could potentially spark another pandemic.

The CDC said the patient in Louisiana was infected with a strain of the bird flu called D1.1. The patient, who hasn't been identified, is over 65 years old and has underlying health problems.

"It has been determined that the patient had exposure to sick and dead birds in backyard flocks," the CDC said.

A mutation has also been reported in British Columbia, Canada.

The spread of bird flu among poultry flocks in the United States is causing egg prices to skyrocket, reaching near-record numbers as 2024 comes to a close.

The average cost of a dozen Grade A large eggs was $3.65 in November, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's up from $3.37 in October and $2.50 at the beginning of the year.

This week, Northwest Naturals recalled a line of its raw and frozen chow after health authorities linked the death of a cat to a batch of feed contaminated with bird flu.

The recalled products include the company's 2-pound bags of its Feline Turkey Recipe that have a best-by date between May 21, 2026, and June 23, 2026.


What are the symptoms of bird flu?


Most people infected with bird flu in the U.S. have had mild symptoms.

Symptoms of H5N1 birth flu infection in humans may include pink eye, fever, fatigue, cough, muscle aches, sore throat, nausea and vomiting, diarrhea, stuffy or runny nose and shortness of breath, according to the Cleveland Clinic.

While data is limited, experts from the College of American Pathologists said the farmworkers might have had different symptoms than others infected either because of different strains of the virus, or because they were infected in different ways.

The farmworkers, for instance, may have rubbed their eyes after touching a cow that was contaminated with the virus, and then developed red eyes ‒ the most common of their symptoms. By contrast, someone who came into contact with a backyard chicken or wild bird, might have inhaled the virus and therefore become sicker.



Something else to worry about  Cheesy Grin
Back to top
 

Get the vaxx! 💉💉

If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.
 
IP Logged
 
Jovial Monk
Moderator
*****
Offline


Dogs not cats!

Posts: 46890
Gender: male
Re: Bird flu and human to human transmission
Reply #1 - Yesterday at 8:50am
 
Quote:
Fearing that many countries would be ill prepared to deal with this potential threat, the World Health Organization in December urged all countries to develop or update their pandemic strategies. The UK government is currently revising its plans.

To date, 12 people have died of the infection in Thailand. But two people there who died of the infection apparently had no direct exposure to birds, suggesting they got the virus from another person, say researchers in an “early release” article in the New England Journal of Medicine (www.nejm.org, 24 Jan 2005). The cluster started with an 11 year old girl who played and slept near infected chickens. Although there have been other instances in which doctors suspected that bird flu had spread between humans, it was always hard to be sure if the victims had not just been exposed to the same source of the virus.

In this case, however, the evidence suggests that the 11 year old Thai girl transmitted the disease to her mother and aunt.

Doctors investigating the deaths talked to the girl's surviving family and healthcare workers. They also tested samples from the aunt and the dead mother and the girl. The mother, a garment worker, had not been around poultry. She was in the girl's house for only 10 minutes. The aunt had had no exposure to poultry for 17 days before falling ill. That is longer than the typical two to 10 days before symptoms usually appear after infection with this virus.

Neither the mother nor the aunt spread the disease to anyone else, an indication that the virus still cannot spread efficiently among humans, the researchers reported. Laboratory tests showed that the virus that infected the family had not mutated from its avian form, the researchers said.

“There is so much transmission going on between birds and humans [in Asia] that the likelihood of a genetic reassortment that would make the virus able to be transmitted in humans grows every day,” says Dr Michael Osterholm, an infectious disease epidemiologist at the University of Minnesota.


https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC546057/
Back to top
 

Get the vaxx! 💉💉

If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.
 
IP Logged
 
Jovial Monk
Moderator
*****
Offline


Dogs not cats!

Posts: 46890
Gender: male
Re: Bird flu and human to human transmission
Reply #2 - Yesterday at 9:06am
 
Now, I fully intend to keep a few chickens, no more than 3 or four but will take precautions:

The birds will spend most of their time in a run I will set up. This run will be netted with netting with holes a cm or two in diameter so wild/feral birds cannot get in the run possibly passing disease onto my chooks. Of course, the coop will be fully inside the run.

Health regulations state chickens must be kept a minimum of 4.5m from human dwellings. My birds will be kept 6m from the house. Runoff out of the run will be channeled by raised beds to the storm drain.

Chicken dung—chickens shit mostly in their sleep—will be covered by thick straw—composting it right in the coop. High compost temps should kill off any virus.

Eggs that have some dung or other dirt on the shell—don’t wash it off, this removes the protective “bloom” preventing diseases entering the egg—just rub it off with a light sanding with fine sandpaper. Write the date each egg was laid—eggs are best 3 days after lay. Also allows removal and safe destruction of eggs after infection if the worst was to happen.
Back to top
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 9:07pm by Jovial Monk »  

Get the vaxx! 💉💉

If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.
 
IP Logged
 
Carl D
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 9506
Rivervale, Perth
Gender: male
Re: Bird flu and human to human transmission
Reply #3 - Yesterday at 10:18am
 
Allow me to predict how this is going to turn out.

And, it's not hard to do because all the same mistakes that were made with Covid will be made with H5N1 (in fact, the "mistakes" have started already).

"It only affects birds"
"There's no risk to the general (human) population"
"It only affects birds, cattle and a few other animals"
"A few people with no contact with birds or other animals have been infected but there's no evidence of direct human to human transmission"
"The risk to the general population is low"
"More cases are being detected from unknown sources but there's still nothing to be concerned about"
"Even more cases of unknown origin have been detected but there's still no need to be alarmed"

And, finally (after the sh!t hits the fan):

"No one could have foreseen this"

What an awful time for Donald Trump to be President of the United States again... with RFK Jr. in charge of "Health".

I wonder if Trump is going to try and blame the Chinese for H5N1 like he did with Covid? Good luck with that. No siree! This one will be a good old "Made in the USA" pandemic.

And, when it does go full human to human (i.e. airborne) at what point do governments stop blaming migratory birds and start blaming airlines for the worldwide spread?

Oh, wait... seeing as the airlines have never been held accountable and made to pay for the deaths and sickness caused by them spreading Covid and the flu, etc. all over the world all the time then it's highly unlikely they will be held accountable for spreading human to human H5N1 flu.

In fact, someone was asking on X last week about border closures, testing, quarantine and masks, etc. if H5N1 goes on a worldwide killing spree and someone replied "Not going to happen, the airline industry won't allow it".

Yep, I agree. Definitely won't happen here in Australia because our pollies will be worried about losing their Chairmans Lounge memberships and other travel 'perks' for starters.
Back to top
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 10:24am by Carl D »  

** Repeat Covid infections exercise our immune system in the same way that repeat concussions exercise our brain **
 
IP Logged
 
Jovial Monk
Moderator
*****
Offline


Dogs not cats!

Posts: 46890
Gender: male
Re: Bird flu and human to human transmission
Reply #4 - Yesterday at 11:41am
 
Quote:
What an awful time for Donald Trump to be President of the United States again... with RFK Jr. in charge of "Health".


Oh, sheeit, hadn’t even thought of those two idiots “managing” the response to the coming pandemic! We are stuffed!
Back to top
 

Get the vaxx! 💉💉

If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send Topic Print