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Re: Port Arthur - The Evidence..
Reply #30 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:55am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 9:46pm:

Bryant was not a marksman. He was a nervous young man who was actually frightened by some of the weapons in his possession. He test fired the semi-automatic "street sweeper" shotgun on the way to Port Arthur but it frightened him so much that he left it behind when it came to conducting his massacre. The Broad Arrow Cafe was registered as being peppered with bullets from Bryant. Witnesses remarked at the bullets hitting the side of the Cafe when Bryant opened fire. He killed his victims because the rifle he mainly used was over-powerful for the job - the AR-15. He basically shot through his victims and his bullets killed multiple victims, one after the other. Outside the Cafe his missed badly when he fired on various victims. Bryant had basically no military training and it showed. He was lucky to hit anything. All the harping that he was somehow a trained marksman ignore the evidence to the contrary. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Yet 35 people died and 22 were injured.

So he hit more than enough ...tsk tsk tsk wanker.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 11699 Armidale Gender:	Re: Port Arthur - The Evidence.. Reply #31 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:17pm SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 9:23pm: A moving Daihatsu 4WD driven by Linda White was crippled .. I have a military background myself and am a champion marksman and I couldn’t dream of pulling such an act… She survived the shot that hit her car.....3.8- 4 m. in length.
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Reply #32 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:31pm

It’s interesting. So many facts that never made the news.
However one simple fact seals it in my mind that it cannot be a government cover up.

Our politicians of than and now simply don’t have the mental power to organise and put into effect such a operation.
Perhaps a overseas government could but certainly not an Australian one.

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Reply #33 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:05pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:31pm:

It’s interesting. So many facts that never made the news.
However one simple fact seals it in my mind that it cannot be a government cover up.

Our politicians of than and now simply don’t have the mental power to organise and put into effect such a operation.
Perhaps a overseas government could but certainly not an Australian one.

Except they had the ability to hone in very quickly getting us all to relinquish our repeater shotguns.
Yeah… and of course *everyone* did…even the honest ones Wink

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Reply #34 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:20pm

I’ve seen it reported that he actually pleaded not guilty to the crime…
From memory… was there a phone call… a tip off for something else…which sent couple of only (local) cops on a red herring a long distance away from where this event took place?
Then there was witness account of some acne scarred guy coming out from knowhere …

Anyway… I’m looking at this and will keep my mind open …

https://books.google.com/books/about/Mass_Murder.html?id=M_EHrgEACAAJ

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Reply #35 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:21pm

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Ian Punt made this Right to Information request to Tasmanian Department of Justice

The request was refused by Tasmanian Department of Justice.

Also, the documents outlining why this "evidence" needs to be locked away for a further 75 years

https://www.righttoknow.org.au/request/conspiracycover_up

It was around 2016 when the Government decided all evidence in this case would be locked up and hidden for another 75 years

When the Government wants to hide something for this long you know they have something to hide.

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Reply #36 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:10pm

Sophia wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:05pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 12:31pm:

It’s interesting. So many facts that never made the news.
However one simple fact seals it in my mind that it cannot be a government cover up.

Our politicians of than and now simply don’t have the mental power to organise and put into effect such a operation.
Perhaps a overseas government could but certainly not an Australian one.

Except they had the ability to hone in very quickly getting us all to relinquish our repeater shotguns.
Yeah… and of course *everyone* did…even the honest ones Wink

Not just repeater/auto/pump action shotguns..... all semi auto rifles regardless of calibre.

Yet today gun crime remains up there in the stats because criminals don't have a gun license and can get whatever type of weapon they want.

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Reply #37 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:13pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:21pm:

It was around 2016 when the Government decided all evidence in this case would be locked up.

Sounds sus , but in fact:
'Court records
During court proceedings, records are kept of everything said by the judge, jury, and witnesses. These records are sometimes accessible to the public.
Case information
Parties to a case in the NSW Local, District, or Supreme Court can use the NSW Online Registry to search for cases, view case information, and download case documents.
Criminal records
Individuals can only request a copy of their own criminal record. Businesses and employers can request criminal records for others.
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It's not as open as is assumed.

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Reply #38 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:20pm

chimera wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:13pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:21pm:

It was around 2016 when the Government decided all evidence in this case would be locked up.

Sounds sus , but in fact:
'Court records
During court proceedings, records are kept of everything said by the judge, jury, and witnesses. These records are sometimes accessible to the public.
Case information
Parties to a case in the NSW Local, District, or Supreme Court can use the NSW Online Registry to search for cases, view case information, and download case documents.
Criminal records
Individuals can only request a copy of their own criminal record. Businesses and employers can request criminal records for others.
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It's not as open as is assumed.

Aye - be ancient and Feudal right of the Lord to tell peasant what Lord thinks is proper! Peasant should just quietly till fields and pay Lord for Overlording....

It's the 21st Century - don't you think it's time 'government' caught up with itself and began to RESPECT its people? The command us to RESPECT or be bashed disrespectfully ...... you want that to persist in every part of 'government' in this day and age?

The Eternal Civil War Between People and Government - now in the phase of The People v Elected Government over the issue of Divine Right Of Government.... or Right Of the People to rule first and foremost.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 11699 Armidale Gender:	Re: Port Arthur - The Evidence.. Reply #39 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:26pm Strewth mate, not me what makes up this stuff. Fact is, all cases are in archives not just M Bryant.
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Reply #40 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:31pm

chimera wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:26pm:

Strewth mate, not me what makes up this stuff.
Fact is, all cases are in archives not just M Bryant.

My beef is with 'government' - when they hide something it is for a reason. I see no reason to hide the facts of the Martin Bryant case.... if they actually have any.

Wait until I finish that interview. Give me time...

Oh - and not all cases are subject to 'do not release to public' orders... ask why.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 11699 Armidale Gender:	Re: Port Arthur - The Evidence.. Reply #41 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 5:14pm why.
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Reply #42 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 5:41pm

chimera wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 5:14pm:

why.

Why not? Because as Red Baron (renewed Baronvonrort) said - governments have something to hide... even if it is something as 'simple' as a miscarriage of justice... BTW - there is NO simple miscarriage of justice for the person afflicted by it, and a government will do anything to prevent truth in a miscarriage coming out.*

What astounds me is how some rant and rave and riot over it happening - allegedly in a very tiny minority of cases - to Aborigines, gays and certain ethnics - when what those essentially heavily criminal groups do to the rest of us is pre-dispose the 'justice system' to attack us all in the name if keeping order. For years it was simple policy to just fit anyone up on sight just to enforce 'law and order' regardless of facts.

Many of you whined and moaned about the poor Abos and gays and such - but did you ever spare a thought for the MAJORITY afflicted in the same way - BECAUSE the Abos and certain ethnic groups caused all the trouble? 93% of women killed by one group tells the tale, eh? FINALLY! Genuine Truthtelling definitely offers a new way of looking at things, eh?

For that endemic problem of entrenched miscarriages of justice - in this country - there must be a day of reckoning. Justice is coming... and it must come before the inevitable Civil War being stoked by stupid politicians, which Civil War will overflow into many sectors of our 'society' as ruined by those same politicians.

* haven't got the direct quote, but Geoffrey Robertson said it well:-

"When disturbed, government responds like a startled octopus, thrashing around in all directions with many legs and not paying any heed to who or what it harms in doing so."

Put that in the context of a government suddenly afraid of what might come from a full and proper review of the Martin Bryant case - and there is more than adequate reason to suspect government would cover it all up, close it off to public scrutiny.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 11699 Armidale Gender:	Re: Port Arthur - The Evidence.. Reply #43 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:26pm All court cases are a miscarriage ? why?
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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 84927 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Port Arthur - The Evidence.. Reply #44 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:59pm chimera wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:26pm: All court cases are a miscarriage ? why? Not all. Why do you assume that? "allegedly in a very tiny minority of cases " ..... you are out of touch with the realities of 'law-keeping', aren't you?
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