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Re: Jimmy Carter dead aged 100
Reply #76 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:48am

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:35am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 8:46pm:

The rapist said he wanted to suspend or even terminate the constitution.

Aww... woo woo...

How many US presidents would've if they could've suspended the bits of the constitution they didn't like?

"If the president does it, that means it's not illegal"

Lincoln did it during the Civil War - he suspended Habeas Corpus.

Bush II did it too.

They're all as bad as each other, no?

No.

But, as Chomsky said, "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged", although he was referring to the ease with which the accused at Nuremberg were condemned to death.

There will always be an argument that Truman committed crimes against humanity by ordering the dropping of the bombs on Japan, something even he admitted.

Did FDR respect the inalienable rights of all US citizens when he incarcerated Japanese Americans?

Bush II with his invasion of Iraq?

Trump, in his usual blustering, but politically savvy way, has knocked the false halo of divine ordination off the American presidency.

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Re: Jimmy Carter dead aged 100
Reply #77 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:05pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:35am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 8:46pm:

The rapist said he wanted to suspend or even terminate the constitution.

Aww... woo woo...

How many US presidents would've if they could've suspended the bits of the constitution they didn't like?

"If the president does it, that means it's not illegal"

Lincoln did it during the Civil War - he suspended Habeas Corpus.

Bush II did it too.

They're all as bad as each other, no?

No.

But, as Chomsky said, "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged", although he was referring to the ease with which the accused at Nuremberg were condemned to death.

There will always be an argument that Truman committed crimes against humanity by ordering the dropping of the bombs on Japan, something even he admitted.

Did FDR respect the inalienable rights of all US citizens when he incarcerated Japanese Americans?

Bush II with his invasion of Iraq?

Trump, in his usual blustering, but politically savvy way, has knocked the false halo of divine ordination off the American presidency.

They most certainly did, dear. I'm just not sure how a campaign pledge to overturn the Constitution to get vengeance on one's political rivals is in the same category as FDR, Truman and Bush Jnr.

This one promise alone has led to a cleanskin like Sleepy Joe issuing pre-emptive pardons to anyone at risk, turning the peaceful transfer of power into a game of political whack a mole, possibly forever, or at least until MAGA dies.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58777 Here Gender:	Re: Jimmy Carter dead aged 100 Reply #78 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:39pm Mortdooley wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 8:50pm: Do you have the video if him saying that? Just because the Left continues to make the claim doesn't make it true. The Despicable Criminal faux President Truthed it.
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Re: Jimmy Carter dead aged 100
Reply #79 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:40pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:35am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 8:46pm:

The rapist said he wanted to suspend or even terminate the constitution.

Aww... woo woo...

How many US presidents would've if they could've suspended the bits of the constitution they didn't like?

"If the president does it, that means it's not illegal"

Lincoln did it during the Civil War - he suspended Habeas Corpus.

Bush II did it too.

They're all as bad as each other, no?

No.

But, as Chomsky said, "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged", although he was referring to the ease with which the accused at Nuremberg were condemned to death.

There will always be an argument that Truman committed crimes against humanity by ordering the dropping of the bombs on Japan, something even he admitted.

Did FDR respect the inalienable rights of all US citizens when he incarcerated Japanese Americans?

Bush II with his invasion of Iraq?

Trump, in his usual blustering, but politically savvy way, has knocked the false halo of divine ordination off the American presidency.

They most certainly did, dear. I'm just not sure how a campaign pledge to overturn the Constitution to get vengeance on one's political rivals is in the same category as FDR, Truman and Bush Jnr.

This one promise alone has led to a cleanskin like Sleepy Joe issuing pre-emptive pardons to anyone at risk, turning the peaceful transfer of power into a game of political whack a mole, possibly forever, or at least until MAGA dies.

Well, for the pearl-clutchers among us, it must be terrifying... their eyes must be glued to their devices wondering what he's gonna say next...

For the rest of us... The US Constitution cannot be 'overturned' by a US president... There's that little problem with both the House and Senate, which must pass any amendment, or an amendment abolition, with 2/3 majorities; then 3/4 of the 50 states must ratify it.

As for pre-emptive pardons.. it doesn't take an Einstein to work out that Biden has one last shot at getting his friends and family off the hook = as every US president before has done... nothing to do with amendments to the Constitution.

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Re: Jimmy Carter dead aged 100
Reply #80 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:13am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:35am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 8:46pm:

The rapist said he wanted to suspend or even terminate the constitution.

Aww... woo woo...

How many US presidents would've if they could've suspended the bits of the constitution they didn't like?

"If the president does it, that means it's not illegal"

Lincoln did it during the Civil War - he suspended Habeas Corpus.

Bush II did it too.

They're all as bad as each other, no?

No.

But, as Chomsky said, "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged", although he was referring to the ease with which the accused at Nuremberg were condemned to death.

There will always be an argument that Truman committed crimes against humanity by ordering the dropping of the bombs on Japan, something even he admitted.

Did FDR respect the inalienable rights of all US citizens when he incarcerated Japanese Americans?

Bush II with his invasion of Iraq?

Trump, in his usual blustering, but politically savvy way, has knocked the false halo of divine ordination off the American presidency.

They most certainly did, dear. I'm just not sure how a campaign pledge to overturn the Constitution to get vengeance on one's political rivals is in the same category as FDR, Truman and Bush Jnr.

This one promise alone has led to a cleanskin like Sleepy Joe issuing pre-emptive pardons to anyone at risk, turning the peaceful transfer of power into a game of political whack a mole, possibly forever, or at least until MAGA dies.

Well, for the pearl-clutchers among us, it must be terrifying... their eyes must be glued to their devices wondering what he's gonna say next...

For the rest of us... The US Constitution cannot be 'overturned' by a US president... There's that little problem with both the House and Senate, which must pass any amendment, or an amendment abolition, with 2/3 majorities; then 3/4 of the 50 states must ratify it.

As for pre-emptive pardons.. it doesn't take an Einstein to work out that Biden has one last shot at getting his friends and family off the hook = as every US president before has done... nothing to do with amendments to the Constitution.

Amendments? Who said anything about that? DL simply plans to usurp it. SCOTUS has given him the thumbs up.

Not sure what the lower courts will say when people like Mike Cohen get arraigned for various infractions, misdemeanors and tax issues, but that's what DL's promising.

LAWFARE !!!

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Re: Jimmy Carter dead aged 100
Reply #82 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 7:56am

Karnal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:13am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:35am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 8:46pm:

The rapist said he wanted to suspend or even terminate the constitution.

Aww... woo woo...

How many US presidents would've if they could've suspended the bits of the constitution they didn't like?

"If the president does it, that means it's not illegal"

Lincoln did it during the Civil War - he suspended Habeas Corpus.

Bush II did it too.

They're all as bad as each other, no?

No.

But, as Chomsky said, "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged", although he was referring to the ease with which the accused at Nuremberg were condemned to death.

There will always be an argument that Truman committed crimes against humanity by ordering the dropping of the bombs on Japan, something even he admitted.

Did FDR respect the inalienable rights of all US citizens when he incarcerated Japanese Americans?

Bush II with his invasion of Iraq?

Trump, in his usual blustering, but politically savvy way, has knocked the false halo of divine ordination off the American presidency.

They most certainly did, dear. I'm just not sure how a campaign pledge to overturn the Constitution to get vengeance on one's political rivals is in the same category as FDR, Truman and Bush Jnr.

This one promise alone has led to a cleanskin like Sleepy Joe issuing pre-emptive pardons to anyone at risk, turning the peaceful transfer of power into a game of political whack a mole, possibly forever, or at least until MAGA dies.

Well, for the pearl-clutchers among us, it must be terrifying... their eyes must be glued to their devices wondering what he's gonna say next...

For the rest of us... The US Constitution cannot be 'overturned' by a US president... There's that little problem with both the House and Senate, which must pass any amendment, or an amendment abolition, with 2/3 majorities; then 3/4 of the 50 states must ratify it.

As for pre-emptive pardons.. it doesn't take an Einstein to work out that Biden has one last shot at getting his friends and family off the hook = as every US president before has done... nothing to do with amendments to the Constitution.

Amendments? Who said anything about that? DL simply plans to usurp it. SCOTUS has given him the thumbs up.

Not sure what the lower courts will say when people like Mike Cohen get arraigned for various infractions, misdemeanors and tax issues, but that's what DL's promising.

LAWFARE !!!

Don't clutch them pearls too hard... You'll do yourself a mischief.

No US president can 'overturn' the Constitution...

If he intends to breach the Constitution or challenge its constraints on presidential power by the (mis)use of presidential executive orders, he'll be apeing what every president has done, in the hundreds—outside of wartime—since Grover Cleveland.

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Reply #83 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:50pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 7:56am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:13am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:35am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2025 at 8:46pm:

The rapist said he wanted to suspend or even terminate the constitution.

Aww... woo woo...

How many US presidents would've if they could've suspended the bits of the constitution they didn't like?

"If the president does it, that means it's not illegal"

Lincoln did it during the Civil War - he suspended Habeas Corpus.

Bush II did it too.

They're all as bad as each other, no?

No.

But, as Chomsky said, "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged", although he was referring to the ease with which the accused at Nuremberg were condemned to death.

There will always be an argument that Truman committed crimes against humanity by ordering the dropping of the bombs on Japan, something even he admitted.

Did FDR respect the inalienable rights of all US citizens when he incarcerated Japanese Americans?

Bush II with his invasion of Iraq?

Trump, in his usual blustering, but politically savvy way, has knocked the false halo of divine ordination off the American presidency.

They most certainly did, dear. I'm just not sure how a campaign pledge to overturn the Constitution to get vengeance on one's political rivals is in the same category as FDR, Truman and Bush Jnr.

This one promise alone has led to a cleanskin like Sleepy Joe issuing pre-emptive pardons to anyone at risk, turning the peaceful transfer of power into a game of political whack a mole, possibly forever, or at least until MAGA dies.

Well, for the pearl-clutchers among us, it must be terrifying... their eyes must be glued to their devices wondering what he's gonna say next...

For the rest of us... The US Constitution cannot be 'overturned' by a US president... There's that little problem with both the House and Senate, which must pass any amendment, or an amendment abolition, with 2/3 majorities; then 3/4 of the 50 states must ratify it.

As for pre-emptive pardons.. it doesn't take an Einstein to work out that Biden has one last shot at getting his friends and family off the hook = as every US president before has done... nothing to do with amendments to the Constitution.

Amendments? Who said anything about that? DL simply plans to usurp it. SCOTUS has given him the thumbs up.

Not sure what the lower courts will say when people like Mike Cohen get arraigned for various infractions, misdemeanors and tax issues, but that's what DL's promising.

LAWFARE !!!

Don't clutch them pearls too hard... You'll do yourself a mischief.

No US president can 'overturn' the Constitution...

If he intends to breach the Constitution or challenge its constraints on presidential power by the (mis)use of presidential executive orders, he'll be apeing what every president has done, in the hundreds—outside of wartime—since Grover Cleveland.

You like pearls do you, Meister?

DL evaded the Constitution with the fake elector's scheme. He was arrested for it. He'll now pardon himself and carry on regardless.

On Inauguration Day, he'll pledge to uphold the constitution in front of the world. That should be fun to see. Do you think he'll wink?

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Reply #84 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:49pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:50pm:

You like pearls do you, Meister?

DL evaded the Constitution with the fake elector's scheme. He was arrested for it. He'll now pardon himself and carry on regardless.

On Inauguration Day, he'll pledge to uphold the constitution in front of the world. That should be fun to see. Do you think he'll wink?

Of the ocean kind, if I ever find one in an oyster... pearl clutchers... not so much.

In the late 18th century, Yanks' comprehension of British royal power was that of a regal autocracy, hence their bestowing the royal prerogative of mercy - a pardon for any crime - unilaterally on the person of the president.

It was a ridiculous misunderstanding of modern constitutional monarchy that has ultimately bestowed on the president the power not only to pardon, but to pre-emptively pardon.

Again, Trump, in his usual blustering, but politically savvy way, has knocked the false halo of divine ordination off the American presidency, by proposing pardoning himself - something that is unlikely to be contested as unconstitutional.

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Reply #85 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 7:27pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:50pm:

You like pearls do you, Meister?

DL evaded the Constitution with the fake elector's scheme. He was arrested for it. He'll now pardon himself and carry on regardless.

On Inauguration Day, he'll pledge to uphold the constitution in front of the world. That should be fun to see. Do you think he'll wink?

Of the ocean kind, if I ever find one in an oyster... pearl clutchers... not so much.

In the late 18th century, Yanks' comprehension of British royal power was that of a regal autocracy, hence their bestowing the royal prerogative of mercy - a pardon for any crime - unilaterally on the person of the president.

It was a ridiculous misunderstanding of modern constitutional monarchy that has ultimately bestowed on the president the power not only to pardon, but to pre-emptively pardon.

Again, Trump, in his usual blustering, but politically savvy way, has knocked the false halo of divine ordination off the American presidency, by proposing pardoning himself - something that is unlikely to be contested as unconstitutional.

Pardoning yourself is the very essence of divine ordination, dear. So's promising to overturn the Constitution to get your political enemies.

DL has successfully knocked the halo off the American presidency because he's the first elected criminal.

Not sure what that has to do with his predecessors, although Bush Jnr would most certainly have been convicted as a criminal if his daddy didn't have connections.

Despite that, Bush never promised any overturning, only DL.

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Reply #86 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 7:30pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 7:27pm:

Pardoning yourself is the very essence of divine ordination, dear. So's promising to overturn the Constitution to get your political enemies.

DL has successfully knocked the halo off the American presidency because he's the first elected criminal.

Not sure what that has to do with his predecessors, although Bush Jnr would most certainly have been convicted as a criminal if his daddy didn't have connections.

Despite that, Bush never promised any overturning, only DL.

Karnal,

So Trump won't get away with it huh?
How many times has he heard that from dumb coppers he couldn't count.

You still say it?

You'd give your left eye to nail Trump wouldn't you? You can see the headlines can't you?
'Local Ozpolitian puts Trump behind bars'.
Your picture'd be in all the papers. You might even get to tell on the newsreels how you pulled if off, yeah.

Listen you hicks, Trump was too much for any big city police force to handle.
They tried but they couldn't -
It took the United States Government to pin a rap on him.
Yeah and they won't make it stick.

Why you hicks, Trump will be back pulling strings to get guys elected mayor and
governor before any of you ever get a ten buck raise.
Yeah - how many of those guys in office owe everything to Trump?
he made them -
yeah he made them just like a tailor makes a suit of clothes -
He takes a nobody see - teaches him what to say - get his name in the paper -
pay for his campaign expenses -
dish out a lot of groceries and coal -
gets his boys to bring the voters out -
and then count the votes over and over again till they added up right and he was elected.
And what happened - did he remember when the going got tough -
when the heat was on - no he didn't wanna -
all he wanted was to save his own dirty neck -

public enemy they call him -
Trump who gave him his public all wrapped up with a fancy bow on it.

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Reply #87 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 7:56pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 7:27pm:

Pardoning yourself is the very essence of divine ordination, dear. So's promising to overturn the Constitution to get your political enemies.

No, it's taking the unilateral presidential constitutional prerogative of pardoning to its logical conclusion, now that preemptive pardoning has long been established as constitutional.

Trump's promise to 'overturn' the Constitution... Gee... what'll he promise next? To part the Red Sea? Level Tehran with one fart?

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 12724 Gender:	Re: Jimmy Carter dead aged 100 Reply #89 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:05pm A bucket of KFC and YMCA. Watch out, Tehran... One fart and you're F U K T.
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