aquascoot wrote on Jan 4
th, 2025 at 8:17am:
Wow the conservative side have an abundance of riches
JD and Ron
How can we pick between These 2 champions
The conservatives are truly blessed
You're mistaken, dear. They're not conservatives. Conservatives preserve institutions, it's what they do. Your DL is the very antithesis of this.
Conservatives are chaps like King Charles, those who live and embody enduring values. Religion, family, the crown or nation state. They place these things over and above themselves. There is a selfless aspiration in conservatism - conservatives
die for these principles. Conservative families are full of fallen soldiers who went off to fight for their countries.
Like the Australian conservative Barry Humphries, conservatives prioritize heritage. Barry shared Charles' love of classical architecture, and helped save buildings all over Melbourne and Sydney in the 70s and 80s. Their instinct isn't a rebuke of modernity or about preserving the past at all costs, but about keeping the best aspects of the past. Imagine knocking down the QVB building in Sydney to build a council carpark. Barry Humphries joined the movement and helped to stop that.
Your DL does the opposite. He spent much of the 1980s erecting eyesores. His entire business model was about kicking people out of their neighbourhoods and building prefabricated concrete boxes used for hotels and casino carparks.
Rather than do his military service, he faked bone spurs. For your DL, selfishness is part of his aesthetic. If he has any values at all, it's self-preservation and greed - the very antithesis of conservative values. It's in his book, it's in the trailer to the Apprentice. Donald Trump still sells the greed-is-good mantra of the 1980s yuppies.
Ron is a Catholic. He's aligned to conservatism through Opus Dei, the Vatican connections he has in what, if anything, is best described as a globalist deep state cabal. For Ron, MAGA is a grift. That's why he'll always be loathed by the base. They've figured out they don't need Rupert's picks anymore and they've started turning on the try-hards. Lindsay Graham, another conservative Trump grifter, is out too.
Trump is a fascist. There's no real doubt about this anymore, he no longer tries to hide it. Fascism is about the leader. As Mussolini once said, what is fascism?
I am fascism. Trump has said exactly the same thing about MAGA, another term for the authoritarian leadership cult that is fascism.
Fascists are hyper-nationalists, unite through a common enemy, talk in terms of destruction and live or die through the Leader. I can't think of any fascist movement that has outlived its leader. Mussolini, Hitler, the Perons, Franco. Fascism is merely a cult of personality - when Trump goes, MAGA goes.
JD's not a true conservative, he's just cast his lot in with DL. No conservative makes a seamless transition to MAGA. The conservatives here - Sprint, Armchair and the former Longweekend - know exactly what Trump's up to and want no part of it. In MAGAland, conservatives are known as RINOs.
Give me a good conservative any day. I'm not aligned, but I appreciate the philosophy. I'd encourage you to look it up. My own instincts are conservative, even if my political outlook isn't. My liberalism clashes with the groupthink of conservatism. Sure, Barry Humphries shows that conservatives don't need to be drones following orders, and I've come to learn the merits of following orders by working in structured organisations. I've spent time living with monks, not sure if it's for me, but there's definitely a benefit to breaking down the components and sharing the division of labour.
You might be conservative by instinct, but you obey.DL. This is not enough to make you a conservative, particularly in your political consciousness. This chops and changes with one key constancy: it's directed
against the leftards. You can't have a consistent political viewpoint merely in opposition to someone or something. That's being a reactionary. And yet, I'd argue that's exactly where America is at and where things have gone wrong, driven by the internet.
This site used to be about politics. We used to discuss the merits of particular policies - stopping the boats was popular once, as was countering terrorism. We'd discuss what problems we were trying to solve, and at one point, we'd have moderators to step in and tell the trolls off.
Before long, an avalanche of fake news seeped in. It started with Vlad, then your MAGA friends learned the tricks and took over. Soon, instead of discussing solutions to problems, we were left with countering foreign-made lies. After a while, these became a given. The conversation became dominated by increasingly implausible fabrications, exaggerations and attacks. Vlad's game went mainstream, and by the time the US election of 2024 came round, the discussion was dominated by news of fake trans Olympic athletes and Haitians stealing pets.
Imagine, I can still remember a time when we discussed mild-mannered things like how mean DL was for standing too close to Hilary in the presidential debate. We are now in a time where DL won't do any debates or serious interviews at all. Releasing his tax returns? Not even asked.
Ah, the good old days, but do you know? I'm far more conservative than your political idols.
You?
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