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Reply #45 - Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:35pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 5:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

meh

e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift
doesnt seem like a good deal for her
wins in court but she loses in life

donald loses in court but wins in life
seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning

And when the TDS kids heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him.

Act 7:54

Attended church for Christmas did you, dear boy?

Most virtuous of you. Still, your vicar may have missed Acts 7.55:

Quote:

55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”

Your passage goes on:

Quote:

59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” When he had said this, he fell asleep.

The martyrdom of Stephen is about forgiveness through Christ. When we are tormented and persecuted, even unto death, we forgive, just as we seek forgiveness for those we have wronged ourselves. This is the message of the gospels themselves, is it not?

As you'd expect, it is a message the big fella has reflected upon, as a deeply committed Christian, like yourself. When asked whether he had ever sought forgiveness for his sins, the big fella was adamant:

Quote:

I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture, I don't.

The big fella loves his church and attends as much as he can, even when they are closed. Like you, he loves his God and his Bible and little church. He doesn't worry about all the religious stuff so much, which he believes takes care of itself if one gets the basics right, such as partaking in his little wine and cracker:

Quote:

When I drink my little wine — which is about the only wine I drink — and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed.

Yes, it's not so much about the forgiving, but the little wine and crackers, which may be a form of asking for forgiveness, liturgically speaking. A performative, symbolic act which makes us feel cleansed.

As we reflect upon the passing of Christmas and enter the new year of our Lord 2025, I do feel there's a message in there for all of us, no?

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Reply #47 - Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:56pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:41pm:

It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob.

Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share?

We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all.

Superior culture, innit.

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Reply #48 - Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:00pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:56pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:41pm:

It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob.

Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share?

We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all.

Superior culture, innit.

Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.

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Reply #49 - Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:03pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 5:11pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 4:15pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

meh

e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift

I know, right? E Jean testified that she slept with a Derringer under her pillow.

The big fella had his lawyers push to get her charged for owning an unlicensed weapon.

He's our law and order president, no?

Not so much a man as a God.

well if she has acted illegally, we can only hope that she will feel the full weight of the law.
this would surely be your position if you had consistency Undecided

Just so. E Jean should go to jail for saying she had an unlicensed firearm. Stormy Daniels should go to jail for flashing her tits in a strip joint. Karen McDougal should go to jail for breaching her NDA.

Fair's fair, no?

The big fella should be let off for basically being awesome.

How do we know?

You said.

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Reply #50 - Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:06pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:56pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:41pm:

It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob.

Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share?

We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all.

Superior culture, innit.

Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.

It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it.

Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya.

Where's the justice in that?

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Reply #51 - Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:06pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:56pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:41pm:

It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob.

Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share?

We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all.

Superior culture, innit.

Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.

It is indeed a joke that an adjudicated rapist and convicted felon can run for POTUS.

No sane person would let him step foot anywhere near their house.

And despite that, 70 million people voted for him.

The US is broken, and it's only gonna get worse over the next four years.

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Reply #52 - Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:08pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:06pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:56pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:41pm:

It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob.

Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share?

We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all.

Superior culture, innit.

Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.

It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it.

Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya.

Where's the justice in that?

The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million.

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Re: Trump loses in court ... again!
Reply #53 - Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:13pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 5:07pm:

JD's not in the doghouse , you dumb dumb

JD has read 48 laws of power and knows that now is the time to let trump wallow in the glory

he is keeping a low profile and the boss will feel appreciative of him doing that

why dont the left understand ANYTHING about what makes people tick Grin

Elon could learn a thing or two from JD, eh?

JD - popularly elected VP; Elon - DL appointed tzar.

Do you think JD knew about the 48 laws of power when he was outing your DL as Orange Hitler?

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Reply #54 - Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:15pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:06pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:56pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:41pm:

It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob.

Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share?

We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all.

Superior culture, innit.

Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.

It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it.

Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya.

Where's the justice in that?

The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million.

Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair?

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Reply #55 - Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:17pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:15pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:06pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:56pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:41pm:

It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob.

Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share?

We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all.

Superior culture, innit.

Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.

It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it.

Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya.

Where's the justice in that?

The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million.

Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair?

Yep, and also that he was a gentleman and a decent human being with all whom he encountered. Can anyone honestly say that about Trump with a straight face? I think not.

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Reply #56 - Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:57pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:35pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 5:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

meh

e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift
doesnt seem like a good deal for her
wins in court but she loses in life

donald loses in court but wins in life
seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning

And when the TDS kids heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him.

Act 7:54

Attended church for Christmas did you, dear boy?

Most virtuous of you. Still, your vicar may have missed Acts 7.55:

Quote:

55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”

Your passage goes on:

Quote:

59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” When he had said this, he fell asleep.

The martyrdom of Stephen is about forgiveness through Christ. When we are tormented and persecuted, even unto death, we forgive, just as we seek forgiveness for those we have wronged ourselves. This is the message of the gospels themselves, is it not?

As you'd expect, it is a message the big fella has reflected upon, as a deeply committed Christian, like yourself. When asked whether he had ever sought forgiveness for his sins, the big fella was adamant:

Quote:

I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture, I don't.

The big fella loves his church and attends as much as he can, even when they are closed. Like you, he loves his God and his Bible and little church. He doesn't worry about all the religious stuff so much, which he believes takes care of itself if one gets the basics right, such as partaking in his little wine and cracker:

Quote:

When I drink my little wine — which is about the only wine I drink — and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed.

Yes, it's not so much about the forgiving, but the little wine and crackers, which may be a form of asking for forgiveness, liturgically speaking. A performative, symbolic act which makes us feel cleansed.

As we reflect upon the passing of Christmas and enter the new year of our Lord 2025, I do feel there's a message in there for all of us, no?

Furious gnashing of teeth is correct.

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Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.

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Reply #57 - Jan 1^st, 2025 at 11:10pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:57pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:35pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 5:00pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

meh

e jean will have 70 million people hating on her for her grift
doesnt seem like a good deal for her
wins in court but she loses in life

donald loses in court but wins in life
seems like this extraordinary man just cant stop winning

And when the TDS kids heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him.

Act 7:54

Attended church for Christmas did you, dear boy?

Most virtuous of you. Still, your vicar may have missed Acts 7.55:

Quote:

55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”

Your passage goes on:

Quote:

59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” When he had said this, he fell asleep.

The martyrdom of Stephen is about forgiveness through Christ. When we are tormented and persecuted, even unto death, we forgive, just as we seek forgiveness for those we have wronged ourselves. This is the message of the gospels themselves, is it not?

As you'd expect, it is a message the big fella has reflected upon, as a deeply committed Christian, like yourself. When asked whether he had ever sought forgiveness for his sins, the big fella was adamant:

Quote:

I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture, I don't.

The big fella loves his church and attends as much as he can, even when they are closed. Like you, he loves his God and his Bible and little church. He doesn't worry about all the religious stuff so much, which he believes takes care of itself if one gets the basics right, such as partaking in his little wine and cracker:

Quote:

When I drink my little wine — which is about the only wine I drink — and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed.

Yes, it's not so much about the forgiving, but the little wine and crackers, which may be a form of asking for forgiveness, liturgically speaking. A performative, symbolic act which makes us feel cleansed.

As we reflect upon the passing of Christmas and enter the new year of our Lord 2025, I do feel there's a message in there for all of us, no?

Furious gnashing of teeth is correct.

Ah, the spirit of Christmas.

Spoken like a true Lutheran, ja?

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Reply #58 - Jan 1^st, 2025 at 11:19pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:15pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:06pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:56pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:41pm:

It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob.

Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share?

We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all.

Superior culture, innit.

Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.

It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it.

Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya.

Where's the justice in that?

The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million.

Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair?

Yep, and also that he was a gentleman and a decent human being with all whom he encountered. Can anyone honestly say that about Trump with a straight face? I think not.

Yes, but what sort of fool would want a decent human being leading the free world?

Who'd create all the disruption, vengeance, sexual abuse and - ahem - deportations?

Come come, Armchair. The Real Americans want a complete and utter cunt.

You?

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Reply #59 - Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:56am

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 11:19pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:15pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:06pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 7:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:56pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2025 at 6:41pm:

It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob.

Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share?

We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all.

Superior culture, innit.

Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.

It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it.

Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya.

Where's the justice in that?

The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million.

Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair?

Yep, and also that he was a gentleman and a decent human being with all whom he encountered. Can anyone honestly say that about Trump with a straight face? I think not.

Yes, but what sort of fool would want a decent human being leading the free world?

Who'd create all the disruption, vengeance, sexual abuse and - ahem - deportations?

Come come, Armchair. The Real Americans want a complete and utter cunt.

You?

incorrect

trumps election is indeed rediculous but says nothing about trump

everyone knows what trump is

its says EVERYTHING about the leftie intellectual elite such as YOU smug karnal and smug gweggy

it says just how repulsive the population find YOU

they find YOU and your type more repulsive then a fat lazy wife cheating convicted felon

exactly why do they hate you so much?

forget trump and concentrate on reforming your own failed social and emotional intelligence Cry

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