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Re: Trump loses in court ... again!
Reply #75 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 1:26pm
 
sorry, punter. If a horse stops at 49.9% or 99%, of the distance to win, it gets no prize. Even it gets along by a landslide. Even with Donald 'Grab 'em' Trump as jockey.
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Reply #76 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 1:41pm
 
chimera wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 1:26pm:
sorry, punter. If a horse stops at 49.9% or 99%, of the distance to win, it gets no prize. Even it gets along by a landslide. Even with Donald 'Grab 'em' Trump as jockey.



meh

trump as a private citizen comes down a set of escalators and says he is going to run for president and then wins the house, senate, supreme court

and wankers want to say he isnt a winner
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

show me where THAT was ever done before Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #77 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 1:59pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:56am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:19pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:17pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:15pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:08pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:06pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:00pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:56pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm:
It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob.


Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share?

We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all.

Superior culture, innit.



Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.


It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it.

Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya.

Where's the justice in that?


The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million.


Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair?


Yep, and also that he was a gentleman and a decent human being with all whom he encountered. Can anyone honestly say that about Trump with a straight face? I think not.


Yes, but what sort of fool would want a decent human being leading the free world?

Who'd create all the disruption, vengeance, sexual abuse and - ahem - deportations?

Come come, Armchair. The Real Americans want a complete and utter cunt.

You?


incorrect

trumps election is indeed rediculous but says nothing about trump

everyone knows what trump is

its says EVERYTHING about the leftie intellectual elite such as YOU smug karnal and smug gweggy

it says just how repulsive the population find YOU

they find YOU and your type more repulsive then a fat lazy wife cheating convicted felon

exactly why do they hate you so much?

forget trump and concentrate on reforming your own failed social and emotional intelligence Cry Cry


Happy new year, dear, but far be it from my jolly self to identify as a leftie intellectual elite.

I, after all, am a humble libertarian of the Sydney Push persuasion. A little old fashioned, but that's just moi.

Repulsive and despicable? Of course! But I and my type am far from the reckoning of the American voters you profess to know so well.

My sympathies are with the Aussies, who've already been fucked by your DL's trade wars before they've even begun. Our dollar's down a good five percent, and lowering. Our only hope is that Chi-na finds more developing countries to send our processed iron ore to. Xi's already recommitting to his friendship with Vlad, but alas.

Vlad's not building anything, he 's just tearing things down.

A bit like your DL, no? Everything he touches melts into air. All that is solid, no?

Democracy, the rule of law, various people's pussies. 28 miles of new steel slats, rusting away on the southern border. He failed so hard on his Wall, Sleepy Joe got all the arrivals when the Supreme Court made the government overturn title 42. He failed so hard on his spending, he added 8 tril to the deficit. He failed so hard on so much, you can't even find one legislative or policy achievement during his entire first term in office.

This is why you abandoned him so. Too bloated and obese, you said. Yesterday's man. Thoroughly deplorable. Do you recall?

You may have forgotten, but that's okay. We can find a good dozen things Sleepy Joe's achieved, and you agree.

That's why you put your support behind the "noble Ron D", who proved even more unpopular with the American voters.

After all, they found your type more repulsive then a fat lazy wife cheating convicted felon, no?

SO UNFAIR !!!
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Re: Trump loses in court ... again!
Reply #78 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 2:15pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 1:59pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:56am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 11:19pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:17pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:15pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:08pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:06pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 7:00pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:56pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 6:41pm:
It shows just how far American politics has fallen when a convicted rapist who essentially tried to overturn an election can get elected to the Presidency. I pity those in America who now have to live with four more years of this delusional whackjob.


Now now, Armchair, we all have our different views and ways of seeing the world. Is this not the beauty of the pluralistic, rich multicultural tapestry we all share?

We live in a democracy with rights and freedoms inherent and absolute. Universal suffrage, direct representation, a rule of law with due process and justice for all.

Superior culture, innit.



Of course we all see the world differently. However, surely most reasonable people can concede that a person who has been convicted of rape is not fit to serve as President of the United States and should never have been permitted to run for that office? It's ridiculous - a person who is not a natural born US citizen cannot run for the office of President, but a convicted felon can. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is.


It's a civil case, Armchair. The felonies were just a minor paperwork error. He didn't mean to do it.

Obama was prez for eight years, and he was probably born in Kenya.

Where's the justice in that?


The justice in Obama is that he was cool, whereas Trump is the precise opposite of that - times several million.


Did you ever say that when Obama was in power, Armchair?


Yep, and also that he was a gentleman and a decent human being with all whom he encountered. Can anyone honestly say that about Trump with a straight face? I think not.


Yes, but what sort of fool would want a decent human being leading the free world?

Who'd create all the disruption, vengeance, sexual abuse and - ahem - deportations?

Come come, Armchair. The Real Americans want a complete and utter cunt.

You?


incorrect

trumps election is indeed rediculous but says nothing about trump

everyone knows what trump is

its says EVERYTHING about the leftie intellectual elite such as YOU smug karnal and smug gweggy

it says just how repulsive the population find YOU

they find YOU and your type more repulsive then a fat lazy wife cheating convicted felon

exactly why do they hate you so much?

forget trump and concentrate on reforming your own failed social and emotional intelligence Cry Cry


Happy new year, dear, but far be it from my jolly self to identify as a leftie intellectual elite.

I, after all, am a humble libertarian of the Sydney Push persuasion. A little old fashioned, but that's just moi.

Repulsive and despicable? Of course! But I and my type am far from the reckoning of the American voters you profess to know so well.

My sympathies are with the Aussies, who've already been fucked by your DL's trade wars before they've even begun. Our dollar's down a good five percent, and lowering. Our only hope is that Chi-na finds more developing countries to send our processed iron ore to. Xi's already recommitting to his friendship with Vlad, but alas.

Vlad's not building anything, he 's just tearing things down.

A bit like your DL, no? Everything he touches melts into air. All that is solid, no?

Democracy, the rule of law, various people's pussies. 28 miles of new steel slats, rusting away on the southern border. He failed so hard on his Wall, Sleepy Joe got all the arrivals when the Supreme Court made the government overturn title 42. He failed so hard on his spending, he added 8 tril to the deficit. He failed so hard on so much, you can't even find one legislative or policy achievement during his entire first term in office.

This is why you abandoned him so. Too bloated and obese, you said. Yesterday's man. Thoroughly deplorable. Do you recall?

You may have forgotten, but that's okay. We can find a good dozen things Sleepy Joe's achieved, and you agree.

That's why you put your support behind the "noble Ron D", who proved even more unpopular with the American voters.

After all, they found your type more repulsive then a fat lazy wife cheating convicted felon, no?

SO UNFAIR !!!

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Furious gnashing of dentures.


Today's word (again):  overwrought.


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Reply #79 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 2:23pm
 
trumpy may usher in a golden age because the system was broken and he has put "disruptors" in key areas.

vivak, elon, tulsi , RFK are entrepreneurial and are all arse kickers

america is going to see some change and chaos and change and chaos ALWAYS provide opportunities.

look at the chaos of pearl harbour and WW2

quite a "disruptive" event

resulted in the innovators being given the green light and the civil service having their arse kicked

australia probably needs a similar mindset

a "war cabinet" mentality

time to unleash the entrepreneurs
and the chodes can be weaned off the government titty
people living their whole lives suckling on albos titties?
its disgusting
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Reply #80 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:13pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 1:41pm:
president and then wins the house, senate,

show me where THAT was ever done before

' But unified government at the beginning of a president’s first term has actually been the norm, especially for Democratic presidents, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of data going back to the 56th Congress (1899-1901). In fact, it’s been the case for 16 of 21 presidents dating to Theodore Roosevelt. The five exceptions were all Republicans: George W. and George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon.'

aquascoot is a 49% winner.
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Reply #81 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:36pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:08pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am:
Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.



Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm:
With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters.

O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024.

In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin.
In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016.





Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.

You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - ...



Biden - 51.3%

Obama - 52.9%

Obama 51.1%

All more than 50%.

Year nine maths, innit?
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Reply #82 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:36pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:08pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am:
Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.



Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm:
With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters.

O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024.

In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin.
In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016.





Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.

You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - ...



Biden - 51.3%

Obama - 52.9%

Obama 51.1%

All more than 50%.

Year nine maths, innit?


Of what voter turn-out,  you spineless, creepy mong?

Max 66%, mostly mid-50s.


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Re: Trump loses in court ... again!
Reply #83 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:40pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:36pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:08pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am:
Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.



Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm:
With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters.

O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024.

In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin.
In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016.





Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.

You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - ...



Biden - 51.3%

Obama - 52.9%

Obama 51.1%

All more than 50%.

Year nine maths, innit?


Of what voter turn-out,  you spineless, creepy mong?

Max 66%, mostly mid-50s.




I'll give you this: you're consistent.

Every time you lose an argument, you change the subject.

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Reply #84 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:00pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:39pm:
Of what voter turn-out,  you spineless, creepy mong?

Max 66%, mostly mid-50s.

erm... of the voters who were 49% Trump.
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Reply #85 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:07pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:36pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:08pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am:
Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.



Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm:
With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters.

O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024.

In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin.
In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016.





Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.

You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - ...



Biden - 51.3%

Obama - 52.9%

Obama 51.1%

All more than 50%.

Year nine maths, innit?


Of what voter turn-out,  you spineless, creepy mong?

Max 66%, mostly mid-50s.




I'll give you this: you're consistent.

Every time you lose an argument, you change the subject.


Nonsense, spineless creep.

More people voted for Trump than for ANYONE else.

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Reply #86 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:09pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:36pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:08pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am:
Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.



Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm:
With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters.

O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024.

In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin.
In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016.





Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.

You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - ...



Biden - 51.3%

Obama - 52.9%

Obama 51.1%

All more than 50%.

Year nine maths, innit?


Of what voter turn-out,  you spineless, creepy mong?

Max 66%, mostly mid-50s.




I'll give you this: you're consistent.

Every time you lose an argument, you change the subject.


Nonsense, spineless creep.

More people voted for Trump than for ANYONE else.



You're doing it again.

Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.
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Reply #87 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:13pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:07pm:
More people voted for Trump than for ANYONE else.


1.5%
1.5%

whew, he squeaked in..just
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Reply #88 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:15pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:09pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 3:36pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:08pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:16am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 10:12am:
Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.



Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 1:57pm:
With a voter turnout around 66% in 2020, the majority of voters did not want Biden  who got a bit over 51% off the 66% = around a third of the voters.

O'bama in 2008, ditto. 61% turnout, he got 53% of that a bit under a third. Even less in 2012, 59% turnout with 51% of that for Hussein Obama. Worse than Dubya in 2004 or Trump in 2024.

In 2016 Trump got 46% of a 60% turnout and still won, to Hillary's apoplectic chagrin.
In 2024 he got half of a 64% turnout.  Better than slick Willy in 1996 or 1992. Better than Obama in 2012 and about the same as Biden in 2020. Importantly, better than Trump himself in 2016.





Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.

You coulda said the same about Harris, Biden, Hillary, Hussein O'bama - ...



Biden - 51.3%

Obama - 52.9%

Obama 51.1%

All more than 50%.

Year nine maths, innit?


Of what voter turn-out,  you spineless, creepy mong?

Max 66%, mostly mid-50s.




I'll give you this: you're consistent.

Every time you lose an argument, you change the subject.


Nonsense, spineless creep.

More people voted for Trump than for ANYONE else.



You're doing it again.

Did the majority of voters choose the rapist on election day?

No. No they did not.

So? You was robbed??  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #89 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:22pm
 

Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory.

There was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie.

First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2012. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024.

And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024.
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