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RUSSIA.
Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 1:57am

Topic on Russia.

Politics is a 'Western' thing.
There is the 'archaic' Western of old via Athens & Rome (Something the USA became dependent on after they became independent... if you know what I mean folks Wink

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There is the 'true' Western of Great Britain in the West of Europe, that modernizes itself via its colonies and the Commonwealth.
Germany didn't. France isn't. Italy & Greece won't.

...so what then of Russia?
It's 'ruled' by Politics too.
Is it also a 'Western' nation?
Is Putin to Lenin traitors to Russia by oppressing Russia with this western politics?
...what then, if not politics, is Russia's and even Eastern Europe's true character and 'culture' ❓❓❓

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RussiAnVetEraN Gold Member Offline Stunned Posts: 541 Zelenograd Gender:	Re: RUSSIA. Reply #1 - Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 3:59am How did Lenin betray Russia? By liberating millions of poor people from the inhuman oppression of the rich?
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Reply #2 - Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:12am

By continuing the oppression of Politics itself.
Politics in the Northern Hemisphere has NEVER been for 'the People's.
When revolutionists say it's for "the people",
they're always saying it's for... 'the people in Politics'

Even British Prime Minister Theresa May resigned disillusioned that although the general populace voted NO to leave the EU.
The 'people of politics', aka The Establishments, over-rided and the rest is history. Brexit. Britain stepped out of the EU, to leave big shot France who still thinks it's superior to Britain - out in front to face the Moslems when they will come.
America won't be able to help. It's democracy had fallen.

So you see Yuri. Doesn't matter if it's Capitalist, Communist, Democracy, Republic, etc, etc, etc.
It's for the people alright. Always for the 'political' people. Just like what you saw in the USA, no different to Russia, China or anywhere... Up there

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Jasin Moderator Offline Posts: 48852 Gender:	Re: RUSSIA. Reply #3 - Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:17am Btw Communism isn't all that different to Egalitarianism which is what Australia became for so long up until 2000. No rich or Poor. Just all middle class. ...except people weren't put to death here to keep it rigid in absolutism
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Reply #4 - Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 6:36am

Jasin wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:12am:

By continuing the oppression of Politics itself.
Politics in the Northern Hemisphere has NEVER been for 'the People's.
When revolutionists say it's for "the people",
they're always saying it's for... 'the people in Politics'

Even British Prime Minister Theresa May resigned disillusioned that although the general populace voted NO to leave the EU.
The 'people of politics', aka The Establishments, over-rided and the rest is history. Brexit. Britain stepped out of the EU, to leave big shot France who still thinks it's superior to Britain - out in front to face the Moslems when they will come.
America won't be able to help. It's democracy had fallen.

So you see Yuri. Doesn't matter if it's Capitalist, Communist, Democracy, Republic, etc, etc, etc.
It's for the people alright. Always for the 'political' people. Just like what you saw in the USA, no different to Russia, China or anywhere... Up there

I absolutely did not understand the meaning of what you said.

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Reply #5 - Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 6:53am

Jasin wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:17am:

Btw Communism isn't all that different to Egalitarianism which is what Australia became for so long up until 2000.
No rich or Poor. Just all middle class.
...except people weren't put to death here to keep it rigid in absolutism

You are mixing two completely different things here.

One thing is when under socialism a huge part of the country's income goes to a public fund. And due to this, there is free education, free medicine, apartments are given out free of charge, public transport is at a high level of development and is very cheap, sports and creative clubs are free for children and adults.

And a completely different thing is the middle class, which is under the yoke of credit and is created only to absorb the goods that industry produces (because the poor cannot buy anything, and therefore the producers of goods and services cannot sell anything).

Do you know anything about overproduction crises?

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Reply #6 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 4:32am

Jasin wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 4:12am:

By continuing the oppression of Politics itself.
Politics in the Northern Hemisphere has NEVER been for 'the People's.

I believe that politics is the same everywhere.

A group of influential people fights with other groups of influential people to get their members to the most important positions in the state.

At the same time, these ruling groups must still keep the masses in obedience (if they do not want a change in the existing system).

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Reply #7 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:53pm

This is where Australia comes into it Yuri (sorry I keep calling you Yuri but Yuri Gargarin is in my mind, the greatest Russian in modern era - so far.).
Australia's Politics here is empowered both by the UK and the USA. Both here like Renters, more than established home owners. With the Govenor-Generals representing the British and the Prime Ministers serving the USA interests mostly.
If Australia became politically independent of both, it will indeed be an authentic world first of politics for the people (en mass) and not for the individual like a 'leader' or an Establishment like Parties. It will be a Common Wealth, for the common people, regardless of type (republic, democracy, communist, socialist, etc). Australia in essence will become a political 'race'.
The reason being is that the Art industry will be the empowerment of the individual and the prime cultural power here. A reverse of N.America, you could say.
But this is not too far in the future.

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