Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:06pm:


Thanks for the correction, Panther. So your DL's case has not been unconditionally dismissed at all. His conviction on 34 felonies stands. He now faces sentencing on Jan 10, where we'll all get to hear his crimes, their seriousness, and the sentence he would have received if he didn't get elected as your POTUS.

You're right. This is indeed a great day. President Elect Donald John Trump does not get to evade justice in the state of New York. He will be forced to attend court and stand silent as his sentence is heard, recorded  and remembered. His face will be filmed for the duration of sentencing. The fake news will record his perp walk to his black SUV afterwards.

If your DL chooses to disobey New York law and not attend, a warrant will be issued for his arrest on Jan 28, 2028.

This is the law, exactly what you have been cherishing on our board for as long as you have been a member. If I recall, your position has been as follow

Then you changed your mind, as people do. Okay, you said, you might support someone being investigated, that's just allegations. But you would never support anyone with indictments before a court, or courts, of law. That was your red line. People can say all sorts of things, but indicted by the courts? Hell would have to have penguins swimming around and polar bears.

Next, you changed again, do you remember? Actually, you said, you might be inclined to support a politician with indictments, depending on the circumstances but never someone with a conviction, made by a jury of his/her peers. That would be unconscionable and beyond reproach. Not on your watch, you said, not in America. Hell would have to Eskimos living in igloos and fishing through the ice.

Now? You support a criminal convicted on 34 felonies, multiple civil rulings for bank, business, charity fraud, sexual assault, banned from doing business in New York and an additional three criminal indictments, one for preventing the peaceful transfer of power, facing the rest of his life in jail.

Thanks for informing us of the facts, Panther. Happy new year to you too.

Lucky you have Australia to come home to, no? I'd be leaving the joint too.

It appears that Panther is confusing the sentencing's “unconditional discharge” with the convictions being dismissed.

I'm sorry Panther, but the convictions remain - no charges are being dismissed.

Trump remains a convicted criminal, and will do for the rest of his life.

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:


Strange. Here's what the Guardian has to say on the matter.

Quote:


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/03/trump-hush-money-trial-sentencing

But I'm curious. I believe your previous take on doing crime involved doing time. What does your much beloved Constitution have to say about sentencing criminals for felonies?

Does it stipulate anything about unconditional dismissals?

Cheers.

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 3:25pm:

Updated, was it?

Strange. I quoted the article here, dear. Which words were updated?

The sum total of what appears on my screen -

"President-elect Donald Trump will be sentenced on 34 counts of falsifying business records ahead of his swearing-in Jan. 20 but is not expected to face jail time, a judge ruled Friday.

The decision to uphold Trump’s conviction and schedule the sentencing for Jan. 10 almost certainly means Trump will be the first felon to serve as a U.S. president."

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January 3, 2025 at 9:47 p.m. ESTtoday at 9:47 p.m. EST