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Reply #45 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 9:04pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:46pm:

lee wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:58pm:

The sum total of what appears on my screen -

"President-elect Donald Trump will be sentenced on 34 counts of falsifying business records ahead of his swearing-in Jan. 20 but is not expected to face jail time, a judge ruled Friday.

The decision to uphold Trump’s conviction and schedule the sentencing for Jan. 10 almost certainly means Trump will be the first felon to serve as a U.S. president."

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January 3, 2025 at 9:47 p.m. ESTtoday at 9:47 p.m. EST

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Trump will be the first felon to serve as a U.S. president.

Yes the First Felon, Insurrectionist, twice impeached, sexual assaulter, with multiple bankruptcies, disqualified, fraudster, illegitimate President.

And that for nuffin' ... Cry

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17692 Gender:	Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜ Reply #46 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:51pm Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:29pm: Yes, and which part was updated? What was deleted?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17692 Gender:	Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜ Reply #47 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:53pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:46pm: Yes the First Felon, Insurrectionist, twice impeached, sexual assaulter, with multiple bankruptcies, disqualified, fraudster, illegitimate President. You mean he's a bastard? I didn't know that was a disqualifiable occurrence.
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11584 armidale Gender:	Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜ Reply #48 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:59pm lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:51pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:29pm: Yes, and which part was updated? What was deleted? What was? Did the update go missing? Did he say NO deletion? To what? Which was that and you wrote it when?
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Reply #49 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 2:02pm

chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:59pm:

What was? Did the update go missing? Did he say NO deletion? To what? Which was that and you wrote it when?

He originally posted what was the alleged, something less than the full report, and the link he posted and directed me to, doesn't now show that. Exactly what are you protesting? Roll Eyes

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:58pm:

I'm afraid you'll have to read the article for that, Lee. I'd advise you to click on the link to Judge Merchan's ruling, it's all there.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11584 armidale Gender:	Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜ Reply #50 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 4:01pm Who protests less than what? It's alleged less than reported, or more, exactly what was said to be deleted. Originally, it wasn't and later updates went back. Some didn't. Why?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17692 Gender:	Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜ Reply #51 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 6:35pm chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 4:01pm: Who protests less than what? It's alleged less than reported, or more, exactly what was said to be deleted. Originally, it wasn't and later updates went back. Some didn't. Why? Answer your own conundrum.
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Reply #52 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 7:17pm

chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:59pm:

lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:29pm:

Yes, and which part was updated?

What was deleted? Roll Eyes

What was? Did the update go missing? Did he say NO deletion? To what? Which was that and you wrote it when?

Why won't you say?

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Reply #53 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:06pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 7:17pm:

chimera wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:59pm:

lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:29pm:

Yes, and which part was updated?

What was deleted? Roll Eyes

What was? Did the update go missing? Did he say NO deletion? To what? Which was that and you wrote it when?

Why won't you say?

What sort of shifty, dirty work have you done now at the cross roads, son of Lahore?

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Reply #54 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:16pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

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https://i.imgur.com/bnanl8m.jpg

Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

President-elect Donald Trump will be sentenced on 34 counts of falsifying business records ahead of his swearing-in as president on Jan. 20, a judge ruled Friday. New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan wrote that he plans to order an “unconditional discharge,” a designation in New York criminal courts for a non-jail and non-probation sentence that carries no other obligations.......

Just got this Washington Post Newsletter in my email this morning!

Great news to welcome me on my return from the USA.....GREAT NEWS!!!

Just 16 more days until the BIG DAY.......Monday, January 20, 2025.......can't come too soon!!!

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Strange. Here's what the Guardian has to say on the matter.

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Judge Juan Merchan, who presided over Trump’s trial in New York, denied the president-elect’s motion to dismiss the case due to his election victory in November. He said Trump is expected to appear for sentencing either in-person or virtually.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/03/trump-hush-money-trial-sentencing

But I'm curious. I believe your previous take on doing crime involved doing time. What does your much beloved Constitution have to say about sentencing criminals for felonies?

Does it stipulate anything about unconditional dismissals?

Cheers.

[Url]https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-trumps-hush-money-case-expected-sentence-uncondi
tional/story?id=116706931[/url]

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11584 armidale Gender:	Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜ Reply #55 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:33pm Trump can look Xi in the face and talk about the UN Law of the Sea and China's crimes in the South China Sea. As one convict to another. (see ' Port Jackson 1788. First Fleet')
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58629 Here Gender:	Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜ Reply #56 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:35pm I remember when the right claimed to be tough on crime, Now they follow a criminal.
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11584 armidale Gender:	Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜ Reply #57 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 8:02am The Inland Revenue may have problems with dodgy tax returns to MAGA.
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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #58 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 12:52pm

lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 8:29pm:

Yes, and which part was updated?

What was deleted? Roll Eyes

Exactly. Which part did you observe deleted, through your research on the matter? This appears to be central to your argument.

Kindly quote all changes made please, Lee.

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Reply #59 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 12:54pm

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

..

https://i.imgur.com/bnanl8m.jpg

Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

President-elect Donald Trump will be sentenced on 34 counts of falsifying business records ahead of his swearing-in as president on Jan. 20, a judge ruled Friday. New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan wrote that he plans to order an “unconditional discharge,” a designation in New York criminal courts for a non-jail and non-probation sentence that carries no other obligations.......

Just got this Washington Post Newsletter in my email this morning!

Great news to welcome me on my return from the USA.....GREAT NEWS!!!

Just 16 more days until the BIG DAY.......Monday, January 20, 2025.......can't come too soon!!!

..

Strange. Here's what the Guardian has to say on the matter.

Quote:

Judge Juan Merchan, who presided over Trump’s trial in New York, denied the president-elect’s motion to dismiss the case due to his election victory in November. He said Trump is expected to appear for sentencing either in-person or virtually.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/03/trump-hush-money-trial-sentencing

But I'm curious. I believe your previous take on doing crime involved doing time. What does your much beloved Constitution have to say about sentencing criminals for felonies?

Does it stipulate anything about unconditional dismissals?

Cheers.

[Url]https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-trumps-hush-money-case-expected-sentence-uncondi
tional/story?id=116706931[/url]

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

Thanks, dear boy. Now show us where it states that judges may dismiss all charges against a convicted felon, found guilty by a jury of his/her peers.

Panther appears to have disappeared - poof!

He must have more pressing business, no?

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