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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #60 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:01pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 12:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

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Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

President-elect Donald Trump will be sentenced on 34 counts of falsifying business records ahead of his swearing-in as president on Jan. 20, a judge ruled Friday. New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan wrote that he plans to order an “unconditional discharge,” a designation in New York criminal courts for a non-jail and non-probation sentence that carries no other obligations.......

Just got this Washington Post Newsletter in my email this morning!

Great news to welcome me on my return from the USA.....GREAT NEWS!!!

Just 16 more days until the BIG DAY.......Monday, January 20, 2025.......can't come too soon!!!

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Strange. Here's what the Guardian has to say on the matter.

Quote:

Judge Juan Merchan, who presided over Trump’s trial in New York, denied the president-elect’s motion to dismiss the case due to his election victory in November. He said Trump is expected to appear for sentencing either in-person or virtually.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/03/trump-hush-money-trial-sentencing

But I'm curious. I believe your previous take on doing crime involved doing time. What does your much beloved Constitution have to say about sentencing criminals for felonies?

Does it stipulate anything about unconditional dismissals?

Cheers.

[Url]https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-trumps-hush-money-case-expected-sentence-uncondi
tional/story?id=116706931[/url]

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

Thanks, dear boy. Now show us where it states that judges may dismiss all charges against a convicted felon, found guilty by a jury of his/her peers.

Panther appears to have disappeared - poof!

He must have more pressing business, no?

It is in his Wahingtom Post quote, embedded above.

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #61 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:45pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 12:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

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Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

President-elect Donald Trump will be sentenced on 34 counts of falsifying business records ahead of his swearing-in as president on Jan. 20, a judge ruled Friday. New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan wrote that he plans to order an “unconditional discharge,” a designation in New York criminal courts for a non-jail and non-probation sentence that carries no other obligations.......

Just got this Washington Post Newsletter in my email this morning!

Great news to welcome me on my return from the USA.....GREAT NEWS!!!

Just 16 more days until the BIG DAY.......Monday, January 20, 2025.......can't come too soon!!!

..

Strange. Here's what the Guardian has to say on the matter.

Quote:

Judge Juan Merchan, who presided over Trump’s trial in New York, denied the president-elect’s motion to dismiss the case due to his election victory in November. He said Trump is expected to appear for sentencing either in-person or virtually.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/03/trump-hush-money-trial-sentencing

But I'm curious. I believe your previous take on doing crime involved doing time. What does your much beloved Constitution have to say about sentencing criminals for felonies?

Does it stipulate anything about unconditional dismissals?

Cheers.

[Url]https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-trumps-hush-money-case-expected-sentence-uncondi
tional/story?id=116706931[/url]

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

Thanks, dear boy. Now show us where it states that judges may dismiss all charges against a convicted felon, found guilty by a jury of his/her peers.

Panther appears to have disappeared - poof!

He must have more pressing business, no?

It is in his Wahingtom Post quote, embedded above.

Oh look, after five pages, the old boy's gone back to Panther's original claim - the one he's retracted.

How cute. Get yourselves ready, leftards, it's going to be a fun few years.

What a swell party it is, no?

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #62 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:47pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:45pm:

Oh look, after five pages, the old boy's gone back to Panther's original claim - the one he's retracted.

How cute. Get yourselves ready, leftards, it's going to be a fun few years.

What a swell party it is, no?

Karnal,

So Trump won't get away with it huh?
How many times has he heard that from dumb coppers he couldn't count.

You still say it?

You'd give your left eye to nail Trump wouldn't you? You can see the headlines can't you?
'Local Ozpolitian puts Trump behind bars'.
Your picture'd be in all the papers. You might even get to tell on the newsreels how you pulled if off, yeah.

Listen you hicks, Trump was too much for any big city police force to handle.
They tried but they couldn't -
It took the United States Government to pin a rap on him.
Yeah and they won't make it stick.

Why you hicks, Trump will be back pulling strings to get guys elected mayor and
governor before any of you ever get a ten buck raise.
Yeah - how many of those guys in office owe everything to Trump?
he made them -
yeah he made them just like a tailor makes a suit of clothes -
He takes a nobody see - teaches him what to say - get his name in the paper -
pay for his campaign expenses -
dish out a lot of groceries and coal -
gets his boys to bring the voters out -
and then count the votes over and over again till they added up right and he was elected.
And what happened - did he remember when the going got tough -
when the heat was on - no he didn't wanna -
all he wanted was to save his own dirty neck -

public enemy they call him -
Trump who gave him his public all wrapped up with a fancy bow on it.

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #63 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:50pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 1:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 12:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

Panther wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

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https://i.imgur.com/bnanl8m.jpg

Judge orders Trump sentencing in New York on Jan. 10

Source: Washington Post
Quote:

President-elect Donald Trump will be sentenced on 34 counts of falsifying business records ahead of his swearing-in as president on Jan. 20, a judge ruled Friday. New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan wrote that he plans to order an “unconditional discharge,” a designation in New York criminal courts for a non-jail and non-probation sentence that carries no other obligations.......

Just got this Washington Post Newsletter in my email this morning!

Great news to welcome me on my return from the USA.....GREAT NEWS!!!

Just 16 more days until the BIG DAY.......Monday, January 20, 2025.......can't come too soon!!!

..

Strange. Here's what the Guardian has to say on the matter.

Quote:

Judge Juan Merchan, who presided over Trump’s trial in New York, denied the president-elect’s motion to dismiss the case due to his election victory in November. He said Trump is expected to appear for sentencing either in-person or virtually.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/03/trump-hush-money-trial-sentencing

But I'm curious. I believe your previous take on doing crime involved doing time. What does your much beloved Constitution have to say about sentencing criminals for felonies?

Does it stipulate anything about unconditional dismissals?

Cheers.

[Url]https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-trumps-hush-money-case-expected-sentence-uncondi
tional/story?id=116706931[/url]

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

Thanks, dear boy. Now show us where it states that judges may dismiss all charges against a convicted felon, found guilty by a jury of his/her peers.

Panther appears to have disappeared - poof!

He must have more pressing business, no?

It is in his Wahingtom Post quote, embedded above.

No, it's not.

Absolutely nothing there about dismissing the charges.

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #64 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

It is a sneaky little Democrat game play of Lawfare, demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #65 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

It is a sneaky little Democrat game play of Lawfare, demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #66 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

It is a sneaky little Democrat game play of Lawfare, demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS WAS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Despicable politicization of the legal system by the Dems, the people after your own black, creepy heart.

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #67 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

It is a sneaky little Democrat game play of Lawfare, demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS WAS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Despicable politicization of the legal system by the Dems, the people after your own black, creepy heart.

Nothing political about it whatsoever.

He broke the law, was caught, and was subsequently charged and convicted.

If he's ever remembered, it will be for being a convicted criminal (and a rapist, of course).

Don't break the law 34 times, and you won't be hauled in front of a jury.

It's that simple.

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #68 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

It is a sneaky little Democrat game play of Lawfare, demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS WAS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Despicable politicization of the legal system by the Dems, the people after your own black, creepy heart.

Nothing political about it whatsoever.

He broke the law, was caught, and was subsequently charged and convicted.

If he's ever remembered, it will be for being a convicted criminal (and a rapist, of course).

Don't break the law 34 times, and you won't be hauled in front of a jury.

It's that simple.

If it was true they would punish him.

But the process was the punishment. The charges were trumped up, the trial was a sham.

Same with the rape - if he was a rapist they should charge him. But they won't because its all made up political lies.
Ditto with the impeachments. Ditto with the charades with Biden as a mentally fully functional prez or Harris as a worthy contender. Colossal lies, cheating, deformed, spineless mendacity. Thed blowtorch should be applied to their collective bellies.

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #69 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:41pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

It is a sneaky little Democrat game play of Lawfare, demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS WAS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Despicable politicization of the legal system by the Dems, the people after your own black, creepy heart.

Nothing political about it whatsoever.

He broke the law, was caught, and was subsequently charged and convicted.

If he's ever remembered, it will be for being a convicted criminal (and a rapist, of course).

Don't break the law 34 times, and you won't be hauled in front of a jury.

It's that simple.

If it was true ...

Oh, but it is true.

It's an indisputable fact.

He broke the law 34 times, was charged, and subsequently convicted by a jury.

Are you suggesting that the jury was in on this conspiracy theory of yours?

Seriously?

Sleepy Joe is so useless that he can't even tie his own shoelaces, and yet he was able to plan this conspiracy that involved the complete cooperation by all 12 jurors - the 12 jurors that Donald Trump himself chose?

Oh, Franky boy - you really need to put down that bottle.

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #70 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:41pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

It is a sneaky little Democrat game play of Lawfare, demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS WAS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Despicable politicization of the legal system by the Dems, the people after your own black, creepy heart.

Nothing political about it whatsoever.

He broke the law, was caught, and was subsequently charged and convicted.

If he's ever remembered, it will be for being a convicted criminal (and a rapist, of course).

Don't break the law 34 times, and you won't be hauled in front of a jury.

It's that simple.

If it was true they would punish him.

But the process was the punishment. The charges were trumped up, the trial was a sham.

Same with the rape - if he was a rapist they should charge him. But they won't because its all made up political lies.
Ditto with the impeachments. Ditto with the charades with Biden as a mentally fully functional prez or Harris as a worthy contender. Colossal lies, cheating, deformed, spineless mendacity. Thed blowtorch should be applied to their collective bellies.

Oh, but it is true.

It's an indisputable fact.

So why don't they charge him with rape and punish him for fraud?

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #71 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 4:43pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:41pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

It is a sneaky little Democrat game play of Lawfare, demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS WAS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Despicable politicization of the legal system by the Dems, the people after your own black, creepy heart.

Nothing political about it whatsoever.

He broke the law, was caught, and was subsequently charged and convicted.

If he's ever remembered, it will be for being a convicted criminal (and a rapist, of course).

Don't break the law 34 times, and you won't be hauled in front of a jury.

It's that simple.

If it was true they would punish him.

But the process was the punishment. The charges were trumped up, the trial was a sham.

Same with the rape - if he was a rapist they should charge him. But they won't because its all made up political lies.
Ditto with the impeachments. Ditto with the charades with Biden as a mentally fully functional prez or Harris as a worthy contender. Colossal lies, cheating, deformed, spineless mendacity. Thed blowtorch should be applied to their collective bellies.

Oh, but it is true.

It's an indisputable fact.

So why don't they charge him with rape and punish him for fraud?

You know why, old boy.

Trump is a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist.

Those facts we know.

What we don't know is why you defend rapists and convicted felons.

Are you a rapist too, old boy?

In a New York Magazine article published in June 2019, Carroll claimed the event occurred "in the fall of 1995 or the spring of 1996" - more than twenty years prior.

She claimed she did not report the event to the police.

At the time, the criminal statute of limitations on such accusations was five years.

If New York's authorities were not aware of it, that explains why Trump wasn't charged at the time or within the five years before the allegation became time-barred.

In June 2006 New York changed the law but the change did not retroactively apply to alleged crimes committed before 2006.

Carroll could make a civil claim because of the Adult Survivor's Act which amended the civil statute of limitations to allow "alleged victims of sexual offenses such as sexual assault and unwanted sexual contact in the workplace to file civil suits between November 24, 2022, and November 24, 2023"

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #72 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 4:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:41pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

It is a sneaky little Democrat game play of Lawfare, demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS WAS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Despicable politicization of the legal system by the Dems, the people after your own black, creepy heart.

Nothing political about it whatsoever.

He broke the law, was caught, and was subsequently charged and convicted.

If he's ever remembered, it will be for being a convicted criminal (and a rapist, of course).

Don't break the law 34 times, and you won't be hauled in front of a jury.

It's that simple.

If it was true they would punish him.

But the process was the punishment. The charges were trumped up, the trial was a sham.

Same with the rape - if he was a rapist they should charge him. But they won't because its all made up political lies.
Ditto with the impeachments. Ditto with the charades with Biden as a mentally fully functional prez or Harris as a worthy contender. Colossal lies, cheating, deformed, spineless mendacity. Thed blowtorch should be applied to their collective bellies.

Oh, but it is true.

It's an indisputable fact.

So why don't they charge him with rape and punish him for fraud?

You know why, old boy.

Trump is a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist.

Those facts we know.

What we don't know is why you defend rapists and convicted felons.

Are you a rapist too, old boy?

In a New York Magazine article published in June 2019, Carroll claimed the event occurred "in the fall of 1995 or the spring of 1996" - more than twenty years prior.

She claimed she did not report the event to the police.

At the time, the criminal statute of limitations on such accusations was five years.

If New York's authorities were not aware of it, that explains why Trump wasn't charged at the time or within the five years before the allegation became time-barred.

In June 2006 New York changed the law but the change did not retroactively apply to alleged crimes committed before 2006.

Carroll could make a civil claim because of the Adult Survivor's Act which amended the civil statute of limitations to allow "alleged victims of sexual offenses such as sexual assault and unwanted sexual contact in the workplace to file civil suits between November 24, 2022, and November 24, 2023"

Bollocks.

Why didn't she report it within 5 years of it allegedly happening?
Why wait until he is prez and she has a book to flog?

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #73 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:34pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

It is a sneaky little Democrat game play of Lawfare, demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS WAS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Despicable politicization of the legal system by the Dems, the people after your own black, creepy heart.

Nothing political about it whatsoever.

He broke the law, was caught, and was subsequently charged and convicted.

If he's ever remembered, it will be for being a convicted criminal (and a rapist, of course).

Don't break the law 34 times, and you won't be hauled in front of a jury.

It's that simple.

If it was true they would punish him.

But the process was the punishment. The charges were trumped up, the trial was a sham.

Same with the rape - if he was a rapist they should charge him. But they won't because its all made up political lies.
Ditto with the impeachments. Ditto with the charades with Biden as a mentally fully functional prez or Harris as a worthy contender. Colossal lies, cheating, deformed, spineless mendacity. Thed blowtorch should be applied to their collective bellies.

No, dear. Your DL had his day in court and his jury of his peers.

Aquascoot wanted Oprah, Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber on the jury. I believe they were busy.

Besides, isn't Justin Canadian?

LAWFARE !!!

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Re: ⮞⮞ Judge orders Trump sentencing on Jan. 10 ⮜⮜
Reply #74 - Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:50pm

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 5:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 4:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:41pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 6^th, 2025 at 2:16pm:

Search all cases and statutes...
Statutes, codes, and regulations
Consolidated Laws of New York
•••
Article 65 - SENTENCES OF PROBATION, CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20
Current through 2024 NY Law Chapter 678
Section 65.20 - Sentence of unconditional discharge
1. Criteria. The court may impose a sentence of unconditional discharge in any case where it is authorized to impose a sentence of conditional discharge under section 65.05 if the court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.
When a sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed for a felony, the court shall set forth in the record the reasons for its action.

2. Sentence. When the court imposes a sentence of unconditional discharge, the defendant shall be released with respect to the conviction for which the sentence is imposed without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision. A sentence of unconditional discharge is for all purposes a final judgment of conviction.
N.Y. Penal Law § 65.20

It is a sneaky little Democrat game play of Lawfare, demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Nothing about dismissing the charges though.

He will remain a convicted criminal for the rest of his life, despite the sentencing unconditional discharge.

Demonstrating once again that THE PROCESS WAS THE PUNISHMENT. Unconditional discharge = No punishments will be imposed = lawfare.

Despicable politicization of the legal system by the Dems, the people after your own black, creepy heart.

Nothing political about it whatsoever.

He broke the law, was caught, and was subsequently charged and convicted.

If he's ever remembered, it will be for being a convicted criminal (and a rapist, of course).

Don't break the law 34 times, and you won't be hauled in front of a jury.

It's that simple.

If it was true they would punish him.

But the process was the punishment. The charges were trumped up, the trial was a sham.

Same with the rape - if he was a rapist they should charge him. But they won't because its all made up political lies.
Ditto with the impeachments. Ditto with the charades with Biden as a mentally fully functional prez or Harris as a worthy contender. Colossal lies, cheating, deformed, spineless mendacity. Thed blowtorch should be applied to their collective bellies.

Oh, but it is true.

It's an indisputable fact.

So why don't they charge him with rape and punish him for fraud?

You know why, old boy.

Trump is a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist.

Those facts we know.

What we don't know is why you defend rapists and convicted felons.

Are you a rapist too, old boy?

In a New York Magazine article published in June 2019, Carroll claimed the event occurred "in the fall of 1995 or the spring of 1996" - more than twenty years prior.

She claimed she did not report the event to the police.

At the time, the criminal statute of limitations on such accusations was five years.

If New York's authorities were not aware of it, that explains why Trump wasn't charged at the time or within the five years before the allegation became time-barred.

In June 2006 New York changed the law but the change did not retroactively apply to alleged crimes committed before 2006.

Carroll could make a civil claim because of the Adult Survivor's Act which amended the civil statute of limitations to allow "alleged victims of sexual offenses such as sexual assault and unwanted sexual contact in the workplace to file civil suits between November 24, 2022, and November 24, 2023"

Bollocks.

Why didn't she report it within 5 years of it allegedly happening?

Not allegedly - it did happen. He raped her.

Donald Trump is a rapist.

That fact will never be erased from history.

And the reason why so many women take years to report sexual assault (or never report it at all) is because of "people" like you - lowlife scumbags who always take the rapists' side and always say the woman is lying (unless the rapist is tinted, of course).

But once again, you already knew that.

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