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Indofication – A neologism that will soon find its way into the modern Australian vernacular due to the massive influx of Indic peoples (including from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh and Bhutan).

It is a term that William Dalrymple, in his latest book, The Golden Road, could have used. In it, he demonstrates the almost unparalleled influence that the Indic peoples had on shaping both the Roman Empire and East/Southeast Asian cultures for over 1000 years—from before 100 BCE to 600AD in the West and even longer in the East.

Now, after over another 1000 years of hiatus, they’re poised to do it again.

The rumblings of concern that can be heard here are eerily reminiscent of many distinguished Romans’ complaints expressing alarm at the gargantuan influx of Indic luxury goods, spices, and foodstuffs that, they feared, would bankrupt the Empire—as hundreds of tons of gold and other precious metals flowed eastwards.

Now the subcontinent’s main trade is its peoples.

In September 2024, more than 500,000 people from the subcontinent were living in Australia on Temporary Visas (mostly as students) with the vast majority seeking permanent residency.

And, according to the actions of both sides of politics, more are needed.

Both sides of the aisle have turned a blind eye to the student visa racket that has been simmering for years in Australia and the reason isn’t hard to work out…

It’s the economy, stupid!

The average Indian earns the equivalent of $2 per hour (much higher, of course, in the subcontinent’s metropolises; lower in rural regions). With Australia’s minimum hourly wage currently at over $24/hour, it doesn’t take an Einstein to work out that subcontinentals could work for considerably less than that and be quids in (or should that be rupees in) at the end of the day.

It has been the fate of all affluent societies to require the labour of an underclass to do the menial work that affluent locals will not do.

As slavery is out, modern societies like Australia need to be creative, hence subcontinental ‘students’.

The cost? Indofication… and a housing crisis.

The benefits? Uber drivers, Uber Eats deliverers, 24-hour gas station attendants, IT service support, cleaners, chefs, aged care staff, furniture and white goods deliverers, pizza house staff, nightshift security staff, low-level shop assistants, fruit and veg pickers…

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Reply #1 - Jan 6th, 2025 at 9:58pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 6th, 2025 at 8:49pm:
Indofication – A neologism that will soon find its way into the modern Australian vernacular due to the massive influx of Indic peoples (including from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh and Bhutan).



Now the subcontinent’s main trade is its peoples.

In Both sides of the aisle have turned a blind eye to the student visa racket that has been simmering for years in Australia and the reason isn’t hard to work out…

It’s the economy, stupid!

The average Indian earns the equivalent of $2 per hour (much higher, of course, in the subcontinent’s metropolises; lower in rural regions). With Australia’s minimum hourly wage currently at over $24/hour, it doesn’t take an Einstein to work out that subcontinentals could work for considerably less than that and be quids in (or should that be rupees in) at the end of the day.

It has been the fate of all affluent societies to require the labour of an underclass to do the menial work that affluent locals will not do.

As slavery is out, modern societies like Australia need to be creative, hence subcontinental ‘students’.

The cost? Indofication… and a housing crisis.


Namaste!


Well written.
We can’t fight it for both parties are working together to create a big Australia.

I believe it was agreed upon a century ago.

Our standard of living will continue to drop, our environment will continue to degrade under the weight of a population of 100 million.


Don’t matter who you vote for- this is what politicians call “ progress “ Embarrassed
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Reply #2 - Jan 6th, 2025 at 10:14pm
 
Grasshoppers - it is good to see you finally joining the Revolution...

Truly 2025 is going to be a Year Of Decision for the West.... either our culture divests itself of The Madness of pretending to assume that all are equal in morals and values etc - or it sinks never to rise again.

How many years ago did I tell you to lock the gates?  How long ago did I predict that AlboCorp would bring about The Changing of The Tide here...  it took one people speaking with one ...... voice ... to start the ball rolling... and now the cities of cards are falling one by one....., peoples of the West, long held powerless by their sublimely silly governments claiming to be the 'soft option' while actually jack-booting all over the people, have finally realised that they have the power - not the Establishment elites.

Darwin Has Fallen ..... Brisbane Has Fallen ....The Gaga Strip (ACT) remains a small enclave held by Ham-Asses .... Washington Has Fallen .... Transylvania Has Fallen ....  Sydney Will Fall ... Adelaide Will Fall ..... Hobart Will Fall ...... Perth Will Fall ..only Melbadishu (Capital City of Some Aliens) might hold out as The South Bank until it inevitably fails and then falls ... Fedaustralia Will Fall ....  now WE, The People, must save this country from the train wrecks of both 'sides' of The Tag Team  ....
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Reply #3 - Jan 6th, 2025 at 10:23pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2025 at 10:14pm:
Grasshoppers - it is good to see you finally joining the Revolution...

Truly 2025 is going to be a Year Of Decision for the West.... either our culture divests itself of The Madness of pretending to assume that all are equal in morals and values etc - or it sinks never to rise again.

How many years ago did I tell you to lock the gates?  How long ago did I predict that AlboCorp would bring about The Changing of The Tide here...  it took one people speaking with one ...... voice ... to start the ball rolling... and now the cities of cards are falling one by one....., peoples of the West, long held powerless by their sublimely silly governments claiming to be the 'soft option' while actually jack-booting all over the people, have finally realised that they have the power - not the Establishment elites.

It is irrelevant who is in government... immigration will continue.

Affluent societies have, without exception, required an underclass to do the work affluent locals and their children will not do.

25 million of us number among the most affluent people in human history, and we cannot maintain an affluent lifestyle without a migrant underclass.

Australia has never not had a migrant underclass... why would 2020s Australia be any different an era to all others since 1788?
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Reply #4 - Jan 6th, 2025 at 10:38pm
 
Migration isn’t always a bad thing.
It’s how it’s managed.

Albo open the gates during a homeless crisis.
Yes he apologised for his stupidity but that doesn’t help Born and bred Australians sleeping in cars because immigrants have taken all the rentals does it?

I also have a issue with immigration based only on your education, skills and bank balance.

That’s a sign our own education system is a expensive total failure.

Myself, I would rather see a very small immigration program of 25 thousand a year aimed solely at emptying refugee camps one at a time.

The Universities  bosses are well paid.
If they can’t educate our people stop importing others to fill the gap and then instead hire people who can fix our education system?
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Reply #5 - Jan 6th, 2025 at 10:51pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Jan 6th, 2025 at 10:38pm:
Migration isn’t always a bad thing.
It’s how it’s managed.

Albo open the gates during a homeless crisis.
Yes he apologised for his stupidity but that doesn’t help Born and bred Australians sleeping in cars because immigrants have taken all the rentals does it?

I also have a issue with immigration based only on your education, skills and bank balance.

That’s a sign our own education system is a expensive total failure.

Myself, I would rather see a very small immigration program of 25 thousand a year aimed solely at emptying refugee camps one at a time.

The Universities  bosses are well paid.
If they can’t educate our people stop importing others to fill the gap and instead hire people who can fix our education system?

Politicians on both sides would 'apologise' when they can no longer use the 'racism' card to howl down dissent.

But there's no devil in the political machine... no Dr Evil.

The cold truth is that we, the affluent, need people to do the work we won't do.

All of the nation's largest generation - the Boomers - are nearing their late senior years... the population is ageing rapidly.

Would we have them forced out of retirement to pick fruit and veg, and staff the service and healthcare industries?

Australians of past generations worked to have their kids educated to not have them forced into menial jobs... why would their kids - and their grandkids - aspire to menial work now?

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Reply #6 - Jan 6th, 2025 at 11:04pm
 
Very Good questions and I can only partly answer it at the moment, need to walk the cat.

We have a decent amount of people unemployed in Australia. Numbers rise in the youth . As does the crime rate- a connection?

I knew several grey nomads who had a wonderful life fruit picking.
Nice vans, free to camp and as much work as wanted.
( reliable told avoid picking beans).

However then government laws changed and they were no longer needed.

The os owned farms could now employ backpackers or special working visas people plus they could charge them for accommodation and food!

One of the reasons why our strong pacific island neighbours can hardly be prepared come work for hard for little more than food and board.

Your asking some great questions!
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Reply #7 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 6:44am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 6th, 2025 at 8:49pm:
The benefits? Uber drivers, Uber Eats deliverers, 24-hour gas station attendants, IT service support, cleaners, chefs, aged care staff, furniture and white goods deliverers, pizza house staff, nightshift security staff, low-level shop assistants, fruit and veg pickers…

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And doctors, nurses, scientists, ambo drivers, architects, teachers, academics, child care professionals and just about every job under the sun.

We don't do underclasses anymore dear. At least not officially.

Were you especially hopeful?
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Reply #8 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 7:13am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 6th, 2025 at 10:23pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2025 at 10:14pm:
Grasshoppers - it is good to see you finally joining the Revolution...

Truly 2025 is going to be a Year Of Decision for the West.... either our culture divests itself of The Madness of pretending to assume that all are equal in morals and values etc - or it sinks never to rise again.

How many years ago did I tell you to lock the gates?  How long ago did I predict that AlboCorp would bring about The Changing of The Tide here...  it took one people speaking with one ...... voice ... to start the ball rolling... and now the cities of cards are falling one by one....., peoples of the West, long held powerless by their sublimely silly governments claiming to be the 'soft option' while actually jack-booting all over the people, have finally realised that they have the power - not the Establishment elites.

It is irrelevant who is in government... immigration will continue.

Affluent societies have, without exception, required an underclass to do the work affluent locals and their children will not do.

25 million of us number among the most affluent people in human history, and we cannot maintain an affluent lifestyle without a migrant underclass.

Australia has never not had a migrant underclass... why would 2020s Australia be any different an era to all others since 1788?

All true - up to a point, Lord Copper.

There are societies even today, that have managed well without imporing slaves, helots, an underclass. Japan, Switzerland, Scandinavia.
But yes, many Western countries are importing an alien underclass that will eventually outbreed the hosts.

But there are examples that show it is not a necessity. And that is why the path to indification or Chinafication or whatever is not an inevitability but a chosen societal suicide.
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Reply #9 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 7:25am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 7:13am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 6th, 2025 at 10:23pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6th, 2025 at 10:14pm:
Grasshoppers - it is good to see you finally joining the Revolution...

Truly 2025 is going to be a Year Of Decision for the West.... either our culture divests itself of The Madness of pretending to assume that all are equal in morals and values etc - or it sinks never to rise again.

How many years ago did I tell you to lock the gates?  How long ago did I predict that AlboCorp would bring about The Changing of The Tide here...  it took one people speaking with one ...... voice ... to start the ball rolling... and now the cities of cards are falling one by one....., peoples of the West, long held powerless by their sublimely silly governments claiming to be the 'soft option' while actually jack-booting all over the people, have finally realised that they have the power - not the Establishment elites.

It is irrelevant who is in government... immigration will continue.

Affluent societies have, without exception, required an underclass to do the work affluent locals and their children will not do.

25 million of us number among the most affluent people in human history, and we cannot maintain an affluent lifestyle without a migrant underclass.

Australia has never not had a migrant underclass... why would 2020s Australia be any different an era to all others since 1788?

All true - up to a point, Lord Copper.

There are societies even today, that have managed well without imporing slaves, helots, an underclass. Japan, Switzerland, Scandinavia.
But yes, many Western countries are importingvan alien underclass that will eventually outbreed the hosts.

But there are examples that show it is not a necessity. And that is why the path to intoxication or Chinafication or whatever is not an inevitability but a chosen societal suicide.



Sheer hysterics.

They're just people. "outbreed"? What the hell i wrong with you?

In any event, may isuggest you stop relentlessly whinging? Just accept your reality. Nobody is unringing any bells.

Or, of course, if you don't like it here, go back to where you came from.
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Reply #10 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 7:41am
 
mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 6:44am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 6th, 2025 at 8:49pm:
The benefits? Uber drivers, Uber Eats deliverers, 24-hour gas station attendants, IT service support, cleaners, chefs, aged care staff, furniture and white goods deliverers, pizza house staff, nightshift security staff, low-level shop assistants, fruit and veg pickers…

Namaste!


And doctors, nurses, scientists, ambo drivers, architects, teachers, academics, child care professionals and just about every job under the sun.

We don't do underclasses anymore dear. At least not officially.

Were you especially hopeful?

The point has eluded you.

Yes, Australia invites Indic peoples who are doctors, nurses, scientists, ambo drivers, architects, teachers, academics, child care professionals &etc...

But they are also the privileged and affluent of the Indic society into which they were born - unlikely to take on menial work like: Uber drivers, Uber Eats deliverers, 24-hour gas station attendants, IT service support, cleaners, chefs, furniture and white goods deliverers, pizza house staff, nightshift security staff, low-level shop assistants and fruit and veg pickers.

They are also unlikely to enter Australia as a faux student seeking a path to PR and citizenship, given that PR would be part of their agreement to settle here in the first place.

If you speak to affluent Indic people, you'll find that they too have never held down a menial job in their home country in their life - they have local-born servants and lower castes for that - locally produced and culturally imposed underclasses.
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Reply #11 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 7:43am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 7:13am:
All true - up to a point, Lord Copper.

There are societies even today, that have managed well without imporing slaves, helots, an underclass. Japan, Switzerland, Scandinavia.
But yes, many Western countries are importingvan alien underclass that will eventually outbreed the hosts.

But there are examples that show it is not a necessity. And that is why the path to intoxication or Chinafication or whatever is not an inevitability but a chosen societal suicide.



The Indians say -

we are all bloody British.
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MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 7:41am:
mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 6:44am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 6th, 2025 at 8:49pm:
The benefits? Uber drivers, Uber Eats deliverers, 24-hour gas station attendants, IT service support, cleaners, chefs, aged care staff, furniture and white goods deliverers, pizza house staff, nightshift security staff, low-level shop assistants, fruit and veg pickers…

Namaste!


And doctors, nurses, scientists, ambo drivers, architects, teachers, academics, child care professionals and just about every job under the sun.

We don't do underclasses anymore dear. At least not officially.

Were you especially hopeful?

The point has eluded you.

Yes, Australia invites Indic peoples who are doctors, nurses, scientists, ambo drivers, architects, teachers, academics, child care professionals &etc...

But they are also the privileged and affluent of the Indic society into which they were born - unlikely to take on menial work like: Uber drivers, Uber Eats deliverers, 24-hour gas station attendants, IT service support, cleaners, chefs, furniture and white goods deliverers, pizza house staff, nightshift security staff, low-level shop assistants and fruit and veg pickers.

They are also unlikely to enter Australia as a faux student seeking a path to PR and citizenship, given that PR would be part of their agreement to settle here in the first place.

If you speak to affluent Indic people, you'll find that they too have never held down a menial job in their home country in their life - they have local-born servants and lower castes for that - locally produced and culturally imposed underclasses.


Incorrect. Most of them are trained here. Most fields do not accept accreditation from the countries youe are referring to.
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Reply #13 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 7:56am
 
Cultures such as Japanese and Scandinavian are poor examples of ones that didn't import slaves...

The Japanese are historically particularly xenophobic and structured their society such that they imposed underclass status on their lower castes, as did the Norman English on the vanquished Anglos Saxons, relegating even their language with them.

And nevermind Japanese historical misuse of the Chinese and Koreans as slaves.

Scandanavians routinely raided their neighbouring cultures, bringing back slaves to Scandinavia.

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Reply #14 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 8:05am
 
mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 7:44am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 7:41am:
mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 6:44am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 6th, 2025 at 8:49pm:
The benefits? Uber drivers, Uber Eats deliverers, 24-hour gas station attendants, IT service support, cleaners, chefs, aged care staff, furniture and white goods deliverers, pizza house staff, nightshift security staff, low-level shop assistants, fruit and veg pickers…

Namaste!


And doctors, nurses, scientists, ambo drivers, architects, teachers, academics, child care professionals and just about every job under the sun.

We don't do underclasses anymore dear. At least not officially.

Were you especially hopeful?

The point has eluded you.

Yes, Australia invites Indic peoples who are doctors, nurses, scientists, ambo drivers, architects, teachers, academics, child care professionals &etc...

But they are also the privileged and affluent of the Indic society into which they were born - unlikely to take on menial work like: Uber drivers, Uber Eats deliverers, 24-hour gas station attendants, IT service support, cleaners, chefs, furniture and white goods deliverers, pizza house staff, nightshift security staff, low-level shop assistants and fruit and veg pickers.

They are also unlikely to enter Australia as a faux student seeking a path to PR and citizenship, given that PR would be part of their agreement to settle here in the first place.

If you speak to affluent Indic people, you'll find that they too have never held down a menial job in their home country in their life - they have local-born servants and lower castes for that - locally produced and culturally imposed underclasses.


Incorrect. Most of them are trained here. Most fields do not accept accreditation from the countries youe are referring to.

Nearly all of them have come from privileged backgrounds, from high-status castes. Most are applying for places in Australia as a third choice after the US and Canada.

None are destined to take on menial work.

As for accreditation, Australia and India are working on that... the recently signed Mechanism for Mutual Recognition of Qualifications is designed to fasttrack or override current legislative roadblocks to accreditation.
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