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Reply #45 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 11:48am
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 11:04am:
That will be on our Politicians heads.

A burden that both sides of politics have no problem bearing - their question to us in response is: 'So you want your affluent lifestyle to continue and as cheaply as possible or, at least on rates you can afford?'
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Reply #46 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 12:22pm
 
chimera wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 10:07am:
British democracy was undemocratic until last century. At a time when barons ruled the serfs and villeins in Norman England, there was democracy for all males in Ngarrindjeri country on the Murray river. They elected tendi as in Javanese tanda 'official' from the word-root of 'tenant', as in Celtic tanist elected chief.


It's only in recent times that universal suffrage came into play - a century or so - during which latter half the stirring beast of the entrenched Feudalocracy has been steadily whittling away at equal rights for all via various emotion-filled avenues...

Then out of the West rode a mighty man... of heroic stature and of arm and thigh of great strength and seated upon a mighty horse - a pale horse - and his name was Albo - and he wrought upon the Oppressor Class the idea of a special Voice calling the faithful of Woke to worship at their own supremacism - and thus in doing so he created the enlightenment of the people and causeth them to rise in their righteous wrath in pursuit of the downfall of the Kingdom of Woke and all of its beastly followers... and all of Hell followed after him for the Ungodly.... the people have risen ... the people are Speaking with One Voice!!  The Divine Right of Elected Government to wage Lawfare upon its people will be replaced with the Right of the people to command that government.  All Hail St Albo - Liberator Of The True Slaves!!

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Reply #47 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 12:40pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 11:44am:
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 10:58am:
Australia’s international education Ponzi scheme has literally helped create a massive underclass of low-paid, low-skilled migrant workers.[/highlight]

As if that isn't the point of student visa scams, to which both sides of politics turn a blind eye.

Affluent societies are run by affluent peoples who require access to low-paid, low-skilled workers to continue to live lifestyles that otherwise would be beyond their means and capacity to maintain.

How is it that so many Indic peoples run, say, gas stations?

Hardly a secret or a surprise... Oil companies use Indic contract labour-hire companies for all their low-level personnel employment.

On the matter of entry into Australia, these labour-hire contractors work with the Indian and Australian governments on behalf of the oil companies to secure the entry of Indic workers into Australia.

When visas for migrant workers are not available, they use the student visa process as a loophole to providing migrant workers with visas.

The advantage for Australia is lower overheads to run day-to-day operations at the outlet resulting in lower fuel prices and other costs than they otherwise would be.

While companies in Australia may be required to pay a minimum of $24.50 per hour, the minimum in rupees, while exponentially lower than that, is much higher than anything even many skilled workers within the Indosphere could earn.

Everyone's a winner... until it worked too well and triggered housing crises, which destroyed NZ's Ardern Government, has just destroyed Canada's Trudeau government and is set to do the same to the Albanese government.

Not that senior politicians won't get over it... they won't be short of employment opportunities as the likes of Andrews, McGowan and Perrottet have proved.

They did their jobs as Australian senior politicians - they kept most of us in the affluence to which we have become accustomed.
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Reply #48 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 1:24pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Jan 6th, 2025 at 10:38pm:
Albo open the gates during a homeless crisis.
Yes he apologised for his stupidity but that doesn’t help Born and bred Australians sleeping in cars because immigrants have taken all the rentals does it?


Having rentals available won't put an end to homeless people not paying for their part in rents.
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Reply #49 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 1:28pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 12:40pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 11:44am:
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 10:58am:
Australia’s international education Ponzi scheme has literally helped create a massive underclass of low-paid, low-skilled migrant workers.[/highlight]

As if that isn't the point of student visa scams, to which both sides of politics turn a blind eye.

Affluent societies are run by affluent peoples who require access to low-paid, low-skilled workers to continue to live lifestyles that otherwise would be beyond their means and capacity to maintain.

How is it that so many Indic peoples run, say, gas stations?





I did ask an Indian guy that very question in his petrol station.  His answer was - it is a no-skill business that can be run by an extended family/network.

Trolley pushers also home through Labour hire companies, owned or managed by particular ethnicities. This sort of work also suits student visa holders.
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Reply #50 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 2:00pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 1:28pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 12:40pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 11:44am:
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 10:58am:
Australia’s international education Ponzi scheme has literally helped create a massive underclass of low-paid, low-skilled migrant workers.[/highlight]

As if that isn't the point of student visa scams, to which both sides of politics turn a blind eye.

Affluent societies are run by affluent peoples who require access to low-paid, low-skilled workers to continue to live lifestyles that otherwise would be beyond their means and capacity to maintain.

How is it that so many Indic peoples run, say, gas stations?





I did ask an Indian guy that very question in his petrol station.  His answer was - it is a no-skill business that can be run by an extended family/network.

Trolley pushers also home through Labour hire companies, owned or managed by particular ethnicities. This sort of work also suits student visa holders.

While advised to keep stumm on their visa status and circumstances with customers, certain Indic peoples are naturally personable and cheerful, particularly the Bhutanese.

It's easy to strike up conversations with these ones on Uber rides where they will happily tell you about their country and the 'generous' student visa scheme that allows them to work up to 40 hours a week and work through the weekend on their course in Northern Indian and Tibetan traditional cooking.

Fortunately for them, as it turns out, they learned to cook traditional food when they were 10, so the course isn't too demanding of their time!

All of them I spoke to wanted PR in Australia.

Being generally devout Buddhists, I'm betting all of them are praying to the Lord Buddha and various Bhutanese saints that they have accumulated enough merit over multiple lifetimes for the Australian government to approve their PR application.
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Reply #51 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 2:55pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 1:24pm:
Daves2017 wrote on Jan 6th, 2025 at 10:38pm:
Albo open the gates during a homeless crisis.
Yes he apologised for his stupidity but that doesn’t help Born and bred Australians sleeping in cars because immigrants have taken all the rentals does it?


Having rentals available won't put an end to homeless people not paying for their part in rents.

It reminds me of a story I'd read years ago in a local newspaper of a middle-aged homeless man forced to sleep rough during the day to be awake and alert at night for personal safety reasons.

A kind-hearted multiple-house owner offered to put him up rent-free in an empty house until he got back on his feet.

Weeks later the owner had to evict him... he'd trashed the joint.

Turns out he had a fixation with not cleaning anything, doing the dishes, or throwing out garbage - storing it instead in bedrooms that now reeked of rotten food, had eaten the carpet and permanently stained the walls.

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Reply #52 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 4:04pm
 
We've had millions of student visa holders obtaining Australian university and vocational qualifications over the last few decades - and we continue to have serious skilled workforce shortages.

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Reply #53 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 4:32pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 4:04pm:
We've had millions of student visa holders obtaining Australian university and vocational qualifications over the last few decades - and we continue to have serious skilled workforce shortages.


But we have achieved the bilateral political goal of establishing a willing underclass and its, effectively, endless means of replenishment as the formerly underclass ascends after 5-8 years.

Reminiscent of the deal offered to convicts in the late 18th and 19th centuries: freedom to remain in the colonies after 7 years, or a ticket of leave earlier for good behaviour or via a pardon.
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Reply #54 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 4:39pm
 
A sad fact being faced by many Indic 'students' is the realisation that their home governments' and contract companies' unofficial assurances of Australian PR are not necessarily assured by any Australian government of the day.
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Reply #55 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 5:12pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 4:04pm:
We've had millions of student visa holders obtaining Australian university and vocational qualifications over the last few decades - and we continue to have serious skilled workforce shortages.


But we have achieved the bilateral political goal of establishing a willing underclass and its, effectively, endless means of replenishment as the formerly underclass ascends after 5-8 years.

Reminiscent of the deal offered to convicts in the late 18th and 19th centuries: freedom to remain in the colonies after 7 years, or a ticket of leave earlier for good behaviour or via a pardon.



Aye - but at what cost?  Hint - the development of an unwilling underclass and at the expense of massive REAL inflation.
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Reply #56 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 6:12pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 5:12pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 4:04pm:
We've had millions of student visa holders obtaining Australian university and vocational qualifications over the last few decades - and we continue to have serious skilled workforce shortages.


But we have achieved the bilateral political goal of establishing a willing underclass and its, effectively, endless means of replenishment as the formerly underclass ascends after 5-8 years.

Reminiscent of the deal offered to convicts in the late 18th and 19th centuries: freedom to remain in the colonies after 7 years, or a ticket of leave earlier for good behaviour or via a pardon.



Aye - but at what cost?  Hint - the development of an unwilling underclass and at the expense of massive REAL inflation.

You're confusing a working underclass with a dysfunctional underclass.

It's rare these days for Australian politicians to refer to the 'working class'... they usually refer to Australians as middle class.

They may occasionally use euphemisms for the working class, such as 'battlers' or those on 'struggle street' but recently even those euphemisms are increasingly used to refer to people dealing with psychiatric disorders or drug addiction/alcoholism.
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Reply #57 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 6:27pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 6:12pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 5:12pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 4:32pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 4:04pm:
We've had millions of student visa holders obtaining Australian university and vocational qualifications over the last few decades - and we continue to have serious skilled workforce shortages.


But we have achieved the bilateral political goal of establishing a willing underclass and its, effectively, endless means of replenishment as the formerly underclass ascends after 5-8 years.

Reminiscent of the deal offered to convicts in the late 18th and 19th centuries: freedom to remain in the colonies after 7 years, or a ticket of leave earlier for good behaviour or via a pardon.



Aye - but at what cost?  Hint - the development of an unwilling underclass and at the expense of massive REAL inflation.

You're confusing a working underclass with a dysfunctional underclass.

It's rare these days for Australian politicians to refer to the 'working class'... they usually refer to Australians as middle class.

They may occasionally use euphemisms for the working class, such as 'battlers' or those on 'struggle street' but recently even those euphemisms are increasingly used to refer to people dealing with psychiatric disorders or drug addiction/alcoholism.

The class stratification is one thing. The underclass today has full political rights and access to social, health and all other services. With an underclass of the the same culture and customs, this means social mobility.

With a culturally distant, unassimilating underclass with a significantly higher birth rate than the host population this means cultural and demographic transformation.   
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Reply #58 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 6:57pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 6:27pm:
With a culturally distant, unassimilating underclass with a significantly higher birth rate than the host population this means cultural and demographic transformation.   

In the modern geographically hyper-mobile world, large migration waves are not only probable but inevitable. The last 80 years have proved that.

Indic and East/Southeast Asian peoples have a long and ancient history of both peaceful cultural assimilation with and transformation of their host societies. Before Japan's rise and fall in the early 20th century, none of those societies had a history of military invasion outside their regional Asian milieu.

While Indic peoples transformed Southeast Asia, they did it via the local adoption of Indic religions, philosophy and trade, not by the sword.

It's only through the spread of West Asian Abrahamic religions (Christianity and Islam) that significant inter-cultural conflict arose and persists today.
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Reply #59 - Jan 7th, 2025 at 7:06pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 6:57pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 6:27pm:
With a culturally distant, unassimilating underclass with a significantly higher birth rate than the host population this means cultural and demographic transformation.   

In the modern geographically hyper-mobile world, large migration waves are not only probable but inevitable. The last 80 years have proved that.



Only into countries whose political class wants demographic and cultural transformation.
Many countries do not and so have no large or even small scale migration.
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