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Reply #15 - Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:21pm
 
Boris wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 2:24pm:
No Cannibalism in PNG today now?



hiding from the rest of your claim dumbarse Grin Grin Grin

I don't give a sh1t about PNG. This was the rest of your claim

Boris wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:11am:
and also Arnhem Land I am told.


I was told that you're a bona fide moron ... AND i have evidence to prove it
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Reply #16 - Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:56pm
 
Very little difference between PNG Natives and Australian Natives - close cousins - both with history of Cannibalism and I am told it still occurred up to the 90s in the Pilbara and still happens now in Arnhem Land - but you wouldn't know being an inner city Latte sipping Communist know-it-all wanker.

PNG is our closes neighbour and was Australia. Still Cannibalism goes on there and here. Not that you would know.

You should move to Alice Springs and enjoy the violence.

And I speak several languages and did tours in the NT in French and German.

I will compare IQs with you any day of the week. I have a Vocabulary just in English of over 30,000 words.

And yes I speak some Aborigine languages.
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Reply #17 - Jan 8th, 2025 at 4:05pm
 
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Still no evidence, hey, "Boris" just your usual boasting?  When you get some evidence, you might have some proof.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #18 - Jan 8th, 2025 at 4:44pm
 
Boris wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:56pm:
Very little difference between PNG Natives and Australian Natives



very little difference between you and a rock ... you have the same IQ
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Reply #19 - Jan 8th, 2025 at 4:46pm
 
Boris wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:56pm:
I have a Vocabulary just in English of over 30,000 words



here's a new word for you so you can try to make it 30 001 words, 'evidence' .


evidence
/ˈɛvɪd(ə)ns/
noun
the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.


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Reply #20 - Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:24pm
 
Cannibalism?  That's a mouthful - they can eat it!

You trying to say Boris has bitten off more than he can chew, Smith?
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Reply #21 - Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:57pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 4:44pm:
Boris wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:56pm:
Very little difference between PNG Natives and Australian Natives



very little difference between you and a rock ... you have the same IQ


Only a moron like Smith would believe IQ tests are more than what you see on a quiz show. 😆
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #22 - Jan 8th, 2025 at 7:24pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 3:06pm:
Let us hear for a change from the rational side of the argument.
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From an anthropological perspective, these practices had meanings to their practitioners that are not readily translated into colonial categories; anthropologists resist reading anthropophagous practices through the squeamish lens of Western cannibal myths, particularly where those myths are mobilised into debates about race-based hierarchies.


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You are the peddler of lies, "Boris".  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So they WERE cannibals.
They just didn't imagine man-eating in the same terms as Europeans.

The facts are the same, the interpretation of facts differ according to culture.

Diversity of cultural practices is our strength...
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Reply #23 - Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:05pm
 
Don't call me a liar - a mariner on the First Fleet - saw nothing but it was recorded inland.

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While it is generally accepted that some forms of cannibalism were practised in Australia in certain circumstances, the prevalence and meaning of such acts in pre-colonial Aboriginal societies are disputed.

[6] Before colonization, Aboriginal Australians were predominantly nomadic hunter-gatherers at times lacking in protein sources. Reported cases of cannibalism include killing and eating small children (infanticide was widely practised as a means of population control and because mothers had trouble carrying two young children not yet able to walk)[7][8][9] and enemy warriors slain in battle.[10][11][12]

In the late 1920s, the anthropologist Géza Róheim heard from Aboriginals that infanticidal cannibalism had been practised especially during droughts. "Years ago it had been custom for every second child to be eaten" – the baby was roasted and consumed not only by the mother, but also by the older siblings, who benefited from this meat during times of food scarcity. One woman told him that her little sister had been roasted, but denied having eaten of her. Another "admitted having killed and eaten her small daughter", and several other people he talked to remembered having "eaten one of their brothers".[13] The consumption of infants took two different forms, depending on where it was practised:

When the Yumu, Pindupi, Ngali, or Nambutji were hungry, they ate small children with neither ceremonial nor animistic motives. Among the southern tribes, the Matuntara, Mularatara, or Pitjentara, every second child was eaten in the belief that the strength of the first child would be doubled by such a procedure.[14]

Usually only babies who had not yet received a name (which happened around the first birthday) were consumed, but in times of severe hunger, older children (up to four years or so) could be killed and eaten too, though people tended to have bad feelings about this. Babies were killed by their mother, while a bigger child "would be killed by the father by being beaten on the head".[15] But cases of women killing older children are on record too. In 1904 a parish priest in Broome, Western Australia, stated that infanticide was very common, including one case where a four-year-old was "killed and eaten by its mother", who later became a Christian.[16]

Historian William Rubinstein writes that both "deliberate infanticide" and "the practice of the cannibalism of a murdered baby [were] apparently common" in Australia.[17] A number of reports indicate that newborn infants were sometimes killed by their mothers, who then feed the flesh to an older sibling in order to strengthen the older child in that way.[18][19] The Norwegian ethnographer Carl Sofus Lumholtz confirms that infants were commonly killed and eaten especially in times of food scarcity. He notes that people spoke of such acts "as an everyday occurrence, and not at all as anything remarkable."[20]

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Reply #24 - Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:47pm
 
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, "Boris" you are getting silly in your efforts to produce some evidence about Cannibalism amongst Indigenous Australians.  I suppose your going to trot out the case of Henry Preston in 1827?  A certain, "Hole-in-the-Book" having supposedly murdered and eaten Henry Preston by Preston's employer one John Jamieson at Bong Bong in NSW.  Problem was, Henry Preston walked out of the bush alive and well, having gotten lost when travelling from Jamieson's station.  Jamieson was placed on trial and acquitted by the court for having committed "justifiable homicide."  Seems like Jamieson, "Boris" you are telling porkies.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #25 - Jan 9th, 2025 at 6:52am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:47pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, "Boris" you are getting silly in your efforts to produce some evidence about Cannibalism amongst Indigenous Australians.  I suppose your going to trot out the case of Henry Preston in 1827?  A certain, "Hole-in-the-Book" having supposedly murdered and eaten Henry Preston by Preston's employer one John Jamieson at Bong Bong in NSW.  Problem was, Henry Preston walked out of the bush alive and well, having gotten lost when travelling from Jamieson's station.  Jamieson was placed on trial and acquitted by the court for having committed "justifiable homicide."  Seems like Jamieson, "Boris" you are telling porkies.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #26 - Jan 9th, 2025 at 11:37am
 
Boris wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:05pm:
Don't call me a liar



That would be an insult to liars everywhere ...
you are far far worse............... and a moron
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Reply #27 - Jan 9th, 2025 at 1:30pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 11:37am:
Boris wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:05pm:
Don't call me a liar



That would be an insult to liars everywhere ...
you are far far worse............... and a moron


Indiana Smith and The Kingdom Of The Lost Refutation...

Just like dear widdle dividie - you need facts to refute - not just a contrary statement....

Now then - where are your clear examples of non-cannibalism ..................   Wink
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Reply #28 - Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:03pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 1:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 11:37am:
Boris wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:05pm:
Don't call me a liar



That would be an insult to liars everywhere ...
you are far far worse............... and a moron


Indiana Smith and The Kingdom Of The Lost Refutation...

Just like dear widdle dividie - you need facts to refute - not just a contrary statement....

Now then - where are your clear examples of non-cannibalism ..................   Wink


You are almost as stupid as he is. He has no facts, only 'someone told me' and 'I think' ...

I know in crappler land that is a substitute for facts, but in the real world that is as meaningless as your shoe size.
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Reply #29 - Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:28pm
 
Here is evidence - In Papua New Guinea - Cannibalism - Now - Today.

https://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/papua-new-guinea-shocked-by-horrific-act-o...

And just a very short distance away are Australian Aborigines who also have a long history of Cannibalism.

Dead children "go into the Pot"

the late Dr C.G. von Brandenstein, who learnt at least four Pilbara languages, told me once that in hard times, dead infants would routinely go ‘into the pot’.

The Linguist von Brandenstein who worked with these people for 30 years was an eye witness and spoke of "dead infants would routinely go ‘into the pot’."

So that is from 1960 to 1990 from an eminent scholar...

Fits with historical accounts:

"Only children of tender age—up to about two years old—are considered fit subjects for food, and if they fall ill are often strangled by the old men, cooked, and eaten, and all parts except the head, which is skinned and buried, are considered a delicacy. Parents eat their own children, and all, young and old, partake of it."



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