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Re: Cannibalism
Reply #30 - Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:36pm
 
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Still no evidence of Indigenous Australians engaging in modern day Cannibalism, hey, "Boris"?  What a WOFTAM.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #31 - Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:54pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 1:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 11:37am:
Boris wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:05pm:
Don't call me a liar



That would be an insult to liars everywhere ...
you are far far worse............... and a moron


Indiana Smith and The Kingdom Of The Lost Refutation...

Just like dear widdle dividie - you need facts to refute - not just a contrary statement....

Now then - where are your clear examples of non-cannibalism ..................   Wink


You are almost as stupid as he is. He has no facts, only 'someone told me' and 'I think' ...

I know in crappler land that is a substitute for facts, but in the real world that is as meaningless as your shoe size.


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Reply #32 - Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:36pm
 
According to R. M. and C. H. Berndt the practice of pietistic
burial cannibalism (known also as endo-cannibalism) was very
widespread throughout Australia. In many cases the whole of
the body, except the bones, intestines, and genitalia, was eaten:
however, the Dieri '^ and adjacent tribes of Central Australia
ate only the fatty parts of the face, thighs, arms, and stomach.
G. M. Sweeney ^^ reported instances of the practice of endocannibalism in Arnhem Land as recently as 1939. McCarthy ^''
concluded that the most important functions and meanings of
the whole of the funerary ritual were to assure the subject
"that his death is regretted, and in certain circumstances wUl
be avenged, that his body will be given traditional treatment,
and to ensure that his eternal and immortal spirit will be directed
and delivered so far as possible to its proper spirit home".
If this is correct, members of the deceased's tribal group would
have reason to fear the deceased's spirit if the traditional rites
were not observed. In some cases the participants hoped, by
partaking of the flesh of the deceased, to increase their strength >*;
in others to improve their hunting abiUty.^^
Although not as commonly practised in Australia as burial
cannibalism, acts of revenge cannibalism were nevertheless widespread. There again some ceremonial was almost invariably
observed. By some tribes all of the body except the bones,
intestines and genitalia was eaten; by others, only the flesh of
the arms and legs; by others, only that of the hands and the
feet; by others, only the kidney fat. Howitt 2° made a distinction
between revenge cannibalism and the practice of eating the
kidney fat of both enemies and fellow tribesmen for magical
reasons. Elsewhere ^^ he stated, however, that the Theddora
and Ngarigo ate the hands and the feet of their enemies killed
in raids, and in eating them they acquired, as they thought,
"some part of their qualities and courage". Bates ^'^ came to
similar conclusions after a study of some of the desert tribes

of Western Australia. This belief, however, was in direct
contrast to that of the Maoris of New Zealand as recorded
by Thomson ^^

R. M. & C. H. Berndt 24 concluded that the practice of
killing the very young seemed to have been carried out
occasionally over almost all Aboriginal AustraUa, but that
infanticide was not invariably followed by eating the flesh.
Howitt 25 found instances where young children were eaten by
members of the Kaura tribe near Adelaide during hard
summers; and where the flesh of young children of the
Wotjobaluk tribe was eaten by their elder brothers and sisters
to make them strong.26 He reported also 2? that all the tribes
of the Wotjo nation and on the Murray River frontage used
at times, when an older child was weak and sickly, to kill its
infant brother or sister and feed it on the flesh. Bates 2«
also recorded examples of the practice of infant cannibalism
by the desert tribes of South and Western AustraUa.
Thomas 2^ recorded a case on the Gascoigne River in Western
Australia where an Aboriginal girl was killed and eaten by
a native who decoyed her away. "She was very plump; the
object of killing her was to acquire this desirable quality".
Bleakle> ^^ also referred to "rare cases .. . of the killing and
eating of a young girl on a special ritual occasion"; but his
information is not documented. Bates ^"^ wrote of the
Kaalurwonga east of the Boundary Dam who killed and ate
fat men, women, and girls. Elsewhere she stated ^°^ that
"wanton women in any camp" (i.e., among the West Australian
desert tribes) could be lawfully killed and eaten, and this
may be a key to the motivation for some cannibalistic practices
of this nature.
https://espace.library.uq.edu.au/data/UQ_242712/Qld_heritage_v1_no7_1967_p25_29....
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Reply #33 - Jan 9th, 2025 at 8:38pm
 
Ronald Murray Berndt AM (14 July 1916 – 2 May 1990) was an Australian social anthropologist who, in 1963, became the inaugural professor of anthropology at the University of Western Australia.

He and his wife Catherine Berndt maintained a close professional partnership for five decades, working among Aboriginal Australians at Ooldea (1941), Northern Territory cattle stations (1944–46) and Balgo (1957–81), and with natives of New Guinea (1951–53).[2]

Catherine Helen Berndt AM, née Webb (8 May 1918 – 12 May 1994) was a New Zealand-born Australian anthropologist known for her research in Australia and Papua New Guinea conducted jointly with her husband, Ronald Berndt.
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Reply #34 - Jan 9th, 2025 at 9:49pm
 
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Still no evidence, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #35 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:39am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:54pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 1:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 11:37am:
Boris wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:05pm:
Don't call me a liar



That would be an insult to liars everywhere ...
you are far far worse............... and a moron


Indiana Smith and The Kingdom Of The Lost Refutation...

Just like dear widdle dividie - you need facts to refute - not just a contrary statement....

Now then - where are your clear examples of non-cannibalism ..................   Wink


You are almost as stupid as he is. He has no facts, only 'someone told me' and 'I think' ...

I know in crappler land that is a substitute for facts, but in the real world that is as meaningless as your shoe size.


Triggered ....


maybe, i have a low tolerance for outright stupidity ... something you and Borat have an oversupply off
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Re: Cannibalism
Reply #36 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:49am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:39am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:54pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 3:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 1:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 11:37am:
Boris wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:05pm:
Don't call me a liar



That would be an insult to liars everywhere ...
you are far far worse............... and a moron


Indiana Smith and The Kingdom Of The Lost Refutation...

Just like dear widdle dividie - you need facts to refute - not just a contrary statement....

Now then - where are your clear examples of non-cannibalism ..................   Wink


You are almost as stupid as he is. He has no facts, only 'someone told me' and 'I think' ...

I know in crappler land that is a substitute for facts, but in the real world that is as meaningless as your shoe size.


Triggered ....


maybe, i have a low tolerance for outright stupidity ... something you and Borat have an oversupply off


Looking at your general mode of response, you have a low tolerance for intellect.
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Reply #37 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:38am
 
So this is all lies?

I don't think so.


According to R. M. and C. H. Berndt the practice of pietistic
burial cannibalism (known also as endo-cannibalism) was very
widespread throughout Australia.


Ronald Murray Berndt AM (14 July 1916 – 2 May 1990) was an Australian social anthropologist who, in 1963, became the inaugural professor of anthropology at the University of Western Australia.

He and his wife Catherine Berndt maintained a close professional partnership for five decades, working among Aboriginal Australians at Ooldea (1941), Northern Territory cattle stations (1944–46) and Balgo (1957–81), and with natives of New Guinea (1951–53).[2]

Catherine Helen Berndt AM, née Webb (8 May 1918 – 12 May 1994) was a New Zealand-born Australian anthropologist known for her research in Australia and Papua New Guinea conducted jointly with her husband, Ronald Berndt.
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Reply #38 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:43am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 9:49pm:
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Still no evidence, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Here is evidence you ignore:

the late Dr C.G. von Brandenstein, who learnt at least four Pilbara languages, told me once that in hard times, dead infants would routinely go ‘into the pot’.

The Linguist von Brandenstein who worked with these people for 30 years was an eye witness and spoke of "dead infants would routinely go ‘into the pot’."

So that is from 1960 to 1990 from an eminent scholar...

Fits with historical accounts:

"Only children of tender age—up to about two years old—are considered fit subjects for food, and if they fall ill are often strangled by the old men, cooked, and eaten, and all parts except the head, which is skinned and buried, are considered a delicacy. Parents eat their own children, and all, young and old, partake of it."

You know the babies are raped and murdered - you accept that behaviour but you baulk at the children being eaten - Rape and murder is OK according to you but you are in absolute denial about Cannibalism.

It is covered up.
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Reply #39 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:18am
 
Nearly one in five Aboriginal children aged less than 16 years old in Western Australia had unregistered births according to new research that means thousands of Aboriginal children are likely to have no official identity.

Published today in The Australian and New Zealand Journal of Public Health, the finding, made by linking birth records from the WA Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages to births recorded in the state’s Midwives Notification System, revealed that 4,628 Aboriginal births to Aboriginal mothers weren’t recorded in the Registry in the 16 years from 1996 to 2012.

While the Midwives Notification System records all births that were attended or had follow up care provided by a midwife or doctor, Birth Registrations records only include those children where the parent/s have lodged an application to register the birth. Registration records contain demographic information about the child and parents.

“In its current form, Western Australia’s birth registration system doesn’t ensure that all children have registered births,” said the report’s lead author, University of Sydney PhD student, Alison Gibberd.

The new report reveals that from 1996 to 2012, unregistered Aboriginal births were more common among mothers who were teenagers when they had their first child, and among those living in socioeconomically disadvantaged and remote areas. Aboriginal children born to mothers aged less than 16 years were five times more likely to be unregistered than those born to mothers aged 30 years and older.

Unregistered births were also more common among babies born in rural hospitals, when a mother smoked during pregnancy, or had an alcohol-related diagnosis near the time of the birth. Children born to mothers whose own birth was unregistered and who had no private health insurance were three times more likely to be unregistered.
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Reply #40 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:21am
 
Boris wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:43am:
You know the babies are raped and murdered - you accept that behaviour but you baulk at the children being eaten - Rape and murder is OK according to you but you are in absolute denial about Cannibalism.

It is covered up.

Despite the flawed data, the Senate inquiry heard 20% of missing women in Australia are Aboriginal women. The report found First Nations children and youth are over-represented in the out-of-home care system (approximately one in 18) and are

markedly overrepresented in reports of missing children. These children make up 53% of missing children reports.

Not only are First Nations women and children more likely to go missing, they are less likely to be found.


Report
https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/committees/reportsen/RB000085/toc_...
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Reply #41 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:24am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 6:49am:
Looking at your general mode of response, you have a low tolerance for intellect.


you'd never know Cheesy
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Reply #42 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:30am
 
Boris wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:38am:
So this is all lies?


not lies, just not relevant to what is happening
today
. You repeatedly keep claiming that it is that it is still happening. You have presented
ZERO
evidence that it is. Deflecting to what happened 100 yrs ago, or to PNG, is not in any way evidence that it is still happening
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Reply #43 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:21pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:21am:
Boris wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:43am:
You know the babies are raped and murdered - you accept that behaviour but you baulk at the children being eaten - Rape and murder is OK according to you but you are in absolute denial about Cannibalism.

It is covered up.

Despite the flawed data, the Senate inquiry heard 20% of missing women in Australia are Aboriginal women. The report found First Nations children and youth are over-represented in the out-of-home care system (approximately one in 18) and are

markedly overrepresented in reports of missing children. These children make up 53% of missing children reports.

Not only are First Nations women and children more likely to go missing, they are less likely to be found.


Report
https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/committees/reportsen/RB000085/toc_...


Thank you, Frank.  I've been mentioning that reality for ages now.  One time, one of the skank-weeds here actually accused me of doing so as a cover for my 'racist narrative'  of 'oppressing'/'punching down on' the poor old Abo.

I have an embryonic screenplay of Dingo Creek in development....
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Reply #44 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:48pm
 
Boris wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 7:43am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 9:49pm:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif

Still no evidence, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Here is evidence you ignore:

the late Dr C.G. von Brandenstein, who learnt at least four Pilbara languages, told me once that in hard times, dead infants would routinely go ‘into the pot’.

The Linguist von Brandenstein who worked with these people for 30 years was an eye witness and spoke of "dead infants would routinely go ‘into the pot’."

So that is from 1960 to 1990 from an eminent scholar...

Fits with historical accounts:

"Only children of tender age—up to about two years old—are considered fit subjects for food, and if they fall ill are often strangled by the old men, cooked, and eaten, and all parts except the head, which is skinned and buried, are considered a delicacy. Parents eat their own children, and all, young and old, partake of it."

You know the babies are raped and murdered - you accept that behaviour but you baulk at the children being eaten - Rape and murder is OK according to you but you are in absolute denial about Cannibalism.

It is covered up.


Yeah, yeah, the moon is made of cheese, hey?  "Boris" like a Racist Troll, you cover your lack of evidence with the idea that, is all, "a cover up". It's a coward's way out.  You have no evidence and it shows in every post.  Time to grow up and admit there is no evidence.  Why can't you admit that you're wrong?  Is it because your a Racist Troll?  All you want to do is slam Indigenous Australians at every turn.  How simple, how childish, how futile.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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