Dnarever wrote on Jan 15^th, 2025 at 7:22pm:


That's correct.

And, there were 500,000 fewer Americans thanks to Trump standing by and doing absolutely nothing while they died of COVID.

lee wrote on Jan 15^th, 2025 at 8:20pm:


More COVID-19 deaths occurred during Biden’s presidential term than Trump’s, but this claim is potentially misleading without context.

The COVID-19 pandemic impacted the Trump administration for just  one year. In contrast, it impacted the entirety of Biden’s presidential term.

As of September 2024, COVID-19 was responsible for 1.2 million deaths in the U.S., with the majority of those deaths occurring during Biden’s presidency.

However, death toll figures under both the Trump and Biden administrations aren’t directly comparable because Biden has been in office for a longer period of time since the virus emerged compared to Trump.

Once we account for the duration of each administration, the weekly COVID-19 mortality rate was lower on average during the period coinciding with Biden’s presidency.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 8:38am:


The initial deaths are 100% Trump's fault.

He is responsible for thousands of unnecessary deaths.

He failed to take the pandemic seriously.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 8:55am:


He ignored the advice he received.

That's why so many people - including his own brother - died.

Frank wrote on Jan 15^th, 2025 at 5:24pm:


I expected nothing less than your default approach: dismissing it outright,

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2025 at 1:43pm:


It’s a pattern. Someone makes a claim that challenges your perspective, and you demand proof. When they provide it, you dismiss the evidence, not because it lacks merit, but because you cannot reconcile it with the reality that rarely aligns with your worldview.

Take Trump, for instance. He’s infamous for tailoring his rhetoric to suit his audience. This isn’t a mark of flexibility or strategy, it’s duplicity. If you tell two groups two different stories, you’re lying to one, if not both.

When it comes time to implement those promises, someone will inevitably be left in the lurch. It’s an unavoidable consequence of his brand of political showmanship.

Trump is, at his core, a salesman, a dishonest, slimy one who’s parlayed those skills into political success. But being an effective salesman doesn’t equate to being a good leader, let alone a statesman. Salesmen care about the transaction, not the product.

For Trump, the sale is the election. Once the deal is closed, his interest wanes, and he moves on to the next spectacle.

During his first term, we saw this in action. Trump seemed far more captivated by holding rallies than governing. For him, the rallies were the point: adoration, applause, and affirmation. Governance? That was incidental, a tedious obligation he barely tolerated.

He doesn’t care about following through on his promises. At best, he recycles them, blaming others when he inevitably fails to deliver, or just lies and claims they were delivered knowing that his fans won't bother to check, and if the media do, it will be dismissed as bias.

Because the truth is, he doesn’t care. He never has. His first term was a masterclass in this indifference, and there’s no reason to believe another term would be any different.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:26am:

Long winded, selective waffle.


SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2025 at 12:58pm:

Silly bollocks is correct.


[The United States has been an annual net total energy exporter since 2019.

Your stupid little spin flatly contradicts the facts:
Trum rolled back red and green tape to achieve energy independence.
And he achieved energy independence.

You are one of the many silly buggers who kvetch about green tape and red tape .

Frank wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:32am:


During Trump's presidency, there was a modest uptick in coal mining jobs. This was largely due to regulatory rollbacks and a temporary increase in global demand for coal exports. However, the increase was minimal, roughly a few thousand jobs at its peak.

For example, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported about 50,000 coal mining jobs in 2016, which rose to around 53,000 jobs by mid-2018.

Subsequent Decline:

Despite efforts to boost coal, structural forces like the rise of cheaper natural gas, renewables, and automation continued to erode the coal industry.

By the end of Trump's term in early 2021, coal mining employment had fallen back to around 42,000 jobs, according to BLS data.

The focus was on the coal industry friend. 

Swing and a miss, again.

Frank wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:32am:


While it is technically correct to say that the U.S. became energy independent while President Trump was in office, the reason was the shale boom that had begun in earnest in 2005.

Moreover, 2022 (while Joe Biden was President) marked the highest level of US energy independence since before 1950.