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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: DEI burns LA to the ground Reply #90 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:27pm Biden arranged funding for the victims. You could have made an NotTheEnvironment thread about this—why were the fires so more severe than in the past, what ENVIRONMENTAL factors caused that? But that requires some brains I suppose.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106368 Melbourne Gender:	Re: DEI burns LA to the ground Reply #91 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:32pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:00pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 3:55pm: Biden played the fiddle while California burned. He did the exact opposite, in fact. What do you think the rapist will do - play golf and tell California to go fu c k itself?
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106368 Melbourne Gender:	Re: DEI burns LA to the ground Reply #92 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:36pm Madame Mayor won't answer any questions: https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/4d/57/07/4d5707738f6300c2365232b9afa141d7.m... She can't save herself from being fired for gross incompetence.
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Reply #93 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:18pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:27pm:

You could have made an NotTheEnvironment thread about this—why were the fires so more severe than in the past, what ENVIRONMENTAL factors caused that?

Do you have evidence of that? Roll Eyes

"1. CAMP FIRE - Butte County
Date: November 2018
Cause: Power lines
Structures destroyed: 18,804
Acres burned: 153,336
Deaths: 86

2. TUBBS FIRE - Napa and Sonoma counties
Date: October 2017
Cause: Electrical
Structures destroyed: 5,636
Acres burned: 36,807
Deaths: 22

3. PALISADES FIRE - Los Angeles County
Date: January 2025
Cause: Under investigation
Structures destroyed: 5,316
Acres burned: 17,234
Deaths: 2

4. EATON FIRE - Los Angeles County
Date: January 2025
Cause: Under investigation
Structures destroyed: 4,000+
Acres burned: 10,600
Deaths: 3

5. TUNNEL FIRE - OAKLAND HILLS - Alameda County
Date: October 1991
Cause: Rekindle
Structures destroyed: 2,900
Acres burned: 1,600
Deaths: 25

6. CEDAR FIRE - San Diego County
Date: October 2003
Cause: Human related
Structures destroyed: 2,820
Acres burned: 273,246
Deaths: 15

7. NORTH COMPLEX - Butte, Plumas, and Yuma counties
Date: August 2020
Cause: Lightning
Structures destroyed: 2,352
Acres burned: 318,935
Deaths: 15

8. VALLEY FIRE - Lake, Napa and Sonoma County
Date: September 2015
Cause: Electrical
Structures destroyed: 1,955
Acres burned: 76,067
Deaths: 4

9. WITCH FIRE - San Diego County
Date: October 2007
Cause: Power lines
Structures destroyed: 1,650
Acres burned: 197,990
Deaths: 2

10. WOOLSEY FIRE - Ventura County
Date: November 2018
Cause: Electrical
Structures destroyed: 1,643
Acres burned: 96,949
Deaths: 3

11. CARR FIRE - Shasta and Trinity counties
Date: July 2018
Cause: Human related
Structures destroyed: 1,614
Acres burned: 229,651
Deaths: 8

12. GLASS FIRE - Sonoma County
Date: October 2017
Cause: Undetermined
Structures destroyed: 1,355
Acres burned: 54,382
Deaths: 3

13. LNU LIGHTNING COMPLEX - Napa, Solano, Sonoma, Yolo, Lake, and Colusa counties
Date: August 2020
Cause: Lightning/Arson
Structures destroyed: 1,491
Acres burned: 86,509
Deaths: 6

14. CZU LIGHTNING COMPLEX - Santa Cruz and San Mateo counties
Date: August 2020
Cause: Lightning
Structures destroyed: 1,490
Acres burned: 86,509
Deaths: 1

15. NUNS FIRE - Sonoma County
Date: October 2017
Cause: Power line
Structures destroyed: 1,355
Acres burned: 54,382
Deaths: 1

16. DIXIE FIRE - Butte, Plumas, Lassen, and Tehama counties
Date: July 2021
Cause: Power line
Structures destroyed: 1,311
Acres burned: 963,309
Deaths: 1

17. THOMAS FIRE - Ventura and Santa Barbara counties
Date: December 2017
Origin: Power line
Structures destroyed: 1,063
Acres burned: 281,893
Deaths: 2

18. CALDOR FIRE - Alpine, Amador, and El Dorado counties
Date: September 2021
Cause: Under investigation
Structures destroyed: 1,003
Acres burned: 221,774
Deaths: 1

19. OLD FIRE - San Bernardino County
Date: October 2003
Cause: Human related
Structures destroyed: 1,003
Acres burned: 91,281
Deaths: 6

20. JONES FIRE - Shasta County
Date: October 1999
Cause: Undetermined
Structures destroyed: 954
Acres burned: 26,200
Deaths: 1"

https://abc7.com/post/biggest-most-destructive-fires-california-history/15787046...

Your hyperbole seems to be getting away from you. Whoa Dobbin. Grin

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Re: DEI burns LA to the ground
Reply #94 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:43pm

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 3:43pm:

Warmer, was it?

Who knows? Temperature stations at airports are not fit for climate purposes. Only for air traffic control. Wink

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 3:43pm:

Sure, it feels hot, but feelings can be deceptive.

So you can tell the global average temperature anomaly difference of about 1.5C? Well done that man. Grin

Sorry, I'm confused. Are you saying the thermometers are out or the average temperature has risen by 1.5 degrees?

Either/or, dear. Every other claim you've made in this thread has been debunked, so I can see why you'd hedge on this one.

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Reply #95 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:54pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

Are you saying the thermometers are out or the average temperature has risen by 1.5 degrees?

I am saying you can't differentiate between temperatures that small. But I guess you have hot flushes and that's what makes you feel hot.

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

Every other claim you've made in this thread has been debunked, so I can see why you'd hedge on this one.

Not one has been debunked.

Lack of water does not light fires.
Temperature does not light fires.
Wind does not light fires.

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

Sorry, I'm confused.

And nothing has changed in the last 5 years. Grin

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Re: DEI burns LA to the ground
Reply #96 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:58pm

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:03pm:

"Biden’s Beach Binge: 532 Vacation Days in 3.6 Years—Is He Working Enough?"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-beach-binge-532-vacation-days-in...

Another one who doesn't hold a fire hose.

Hard to say, dear. That's a claim by the RNC. They're including his foreign trips as head of state and - oh: weekends.

In fact, the Republicans are timing him every time he leaves the White House. Sleepy Joe heads out for a bite to eat with Dr Jill, and they put the stopwatch on.

It makes you wonder which prez they're covering for, no?

Of course, you'd know the answer to that yourself, dear, being no Trump-man and so into the data.

You'd hope the RNC aren't getting their stopwatches from the same place the weathermen get their thermometers from, eh?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17969 Gender:	Re: DEI burns LA to the ground Reply #97 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:03pm Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:58pm: and so into the data. And only goes to July 24 for Biden.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20716 Gordon Gender:	Re: DEI burns LA to the ground Reply #98 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:07pm Everybody is calling the mayor and fire chief incompetent except for Karnal, the dirty old sex tourist. https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6HAFGUQ/
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20716 Gordon Gender:	Re: DEI burns LA to the ground Reply #99 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:10pm Los Angeles Times owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong hit American voters with an "I told you so" about their elected leaders' response to the L.A. area wildfires. https://www.aol.com/news/wildfire-disaster-proves-why-competence-010023381.html
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20716 Gordon Gender:	Re: DEI burns LA to the ground Reply #100 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:13pm More DEI LA's $750k-a-year water chief Janisse Quiñones 'knew about empty reservoir and broken hydrants' months before fires https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14272399/LA-water-chief-Janisse-Quinone...
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Re: DEI burns LA to the ground
Reply #101 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:15pm

"The president’s time out of the office increased after he dropped out of the presidential race, spending a total of 46 full or partial days in Delaware, Camp David, St. Croix, Nantucket and California from August to the end of the year.

The Caller’s count includes the president’s current trip to St. Croix, which the White House has not released the end date of. In 2023, the president stayed until the second of the next year."

https://dailycaller.com/2024/12/30/joe-biden-vacation-days-2024-delaware-camp-da...

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Re: DEI burns LA to the ground
Reply #102 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:17pm

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

Are you saying the thermometers are out or the average temperature has risen by 1.5 degrees?

I am saying you can't differentiate between temperatures that small. But I guess you have hot flushes and that's what makes you feel hot.

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

Every other claim you've made in this thread has been debunked, so I can see why you'd hedge on this one.

Not one has been debunked.

Lack of water does not light fires.
Temperature does not light fires.
Wind does not light fires.

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

Sorry, I'm confused.

And nothing has changed in the last 5 years. Grin

It's not small, Lee. On some days and in some places, the temperature rose 5 or 6 degrees above average. On some days it was hotter than any temperature on record. On some days it was so hot people died. Then on other days things cooled down and it was all good.

I imagine you've been told that dozens of times. Still, it took you a while to understand that the LA fires weren't spread by budget cuts or black deputy mayors or tranny firepersons or the fire chief's gender or her difficulty pumping water that didn't exist, but just good old wind and heat.

I thought a volunteer fire fighter would have understood that to begin with, so it just goes to show.

We all have different levels of understanding, no?

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Reply #103 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:32pm

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:58pm:

and so into the data.

And only goes to July 24 for Biden. Grin

And in and in it goes. Here's his schedule for this week, Lee.

https://rollcall.com/factbase/biden/topic/calendar/

You'll note a good 30% of his time on vacation, checking out the sights in LA and Santa Monica.

Typical.

Better not get too curious, Lee. DL starts back soon.

We'll forget our discussion on presidential vacation time, shall we?

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Re: DEI burns LA to the ground
Reply #104 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:36pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:17pm:

lee wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

Are you saying the thermometers are out or the average temperature has risen by 1.5 degrees?

I am saying you can't differentiate between temperatures that small. But I guess you have hot flushes and that's what makes you feel hot.

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

Every other claim you've made in this thread has been debunked, so I can see why you'd hedge on this one.

Not one has been debunked.

Lack of water does not light fires.
Temperature does not light fires.
Wind does not light fires.

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

Sorry, I'm confused.

And nothing has changed in the last 5 years. Grin

It's not small, Lee. On some days and in some places, the temperature rose 5 or 6 degrees above average. On some days it was hotter than any temperature on record. On some days it was so hot people died. Then on other days things cooled down and it was all good.

I imagine you've been told that dozens of times. Still, it took you a while to understand that the LA fires weren't spread by budget cuts or black deputy mayors or tranny firepersons or the fire chief's gender or her difficulty pumping water that didn't exist, but just good old wind and heat.

I thought a volunteer fire fighter would have understood that to begin with, so it just goes to show.

We all have different levels of understanding, no?

she should speak to gavin Cheesy

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true to his word, he demolished them Wink

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