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SerialBrain9 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2287	Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue? Reply #15 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:43am “Extreme weather' 100 years ago, an average human's chance of dying in 'extreme weather' was: 1 in 4,000 each year Today it is: 1 in 400,000 each year So why the panic about 'extreme weather'? Its a tiny risk. And its going down Beats me
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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 8540	Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue? Reply #16 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:06pm The other thing I just remembered about Hollywood hills… the roads apart from being so winding… were so very narrow! More like laneways! I suppose to utilise more land for more houses!
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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 46731 Gender:	Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue? Reply #17 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:08pm freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:22am: Quote: We are having less extreme events - crops are at an all time high - GBR has never had more coral… Are you saying these all time records are proof that we are having less extreme events? They are not 'all time' records.
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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20410 Perth Gender:	Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue? Reply #18 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:14pm There is no denying Climate Change is making things worse!!! Quote: Extreme Weather and Climate Change As the climate changes, the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events are increasing. https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/extreme-weather/
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Reply #19 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:28pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:14pm:

There is no denying Climate Change is making things worse!!!

And you quote NASA, who quote the IPCC Working Group 1 - The Physical Science Basis. So what exactly did the IPCC find in their study. No links. Although there is a rumour that will change by the next one due to Climate Attribution Studies (CAS). CAS is computer modelling and the models have not been verified or validated, much like the other climate models.

So tell us what is currently worse. Be sure to look at the riders beneath. Wink

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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1099 Gender:	Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue? Reply #20 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 2:01pm Gnads wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 6:34am: Daves2017 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2025 at 10:55pm: Poll added Don't know if you can edit your poll? But the word is "He's"(He is) not "His". Thank you.
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Reply #21 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 2:13pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 12:14pm:

There is no denying Climate Change is making things worse!!!

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Extreme Weather and Climate Change

As the climate changes, the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events are increasing.

Or not.

For cyclones -

from Nature - https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01683-2

Although the headline says Indian Ocean Basin, have a look at the other areas. One outlier does not climate make. Wink

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48851 Gender:	Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue? Reply #22 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 2:26pm The Climate changes every day.
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SerialBrain9 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2287	Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue? Reply #23 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 2:36pm He quoted NASA
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Reply #24 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:23pm

The effects of Climate change is why Governments are moving towards lowering carbon emmissions using renewables and Nuclear....Nobody who matters is listening to you dickheads about some global conspiracy about Climate Change being a hoax....You lot are deluded and stupid!!!

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Climate Change and Extreme Weather

The occurrence of extreme events is unprecedented in the observed record and will increase with increasing global warming, according to the Sixth Assessment report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Every bit of warming matters.

https://wmo.int/about-us/world-meteorological-day/wmd-2022/climate-change-and-ex...

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Climate models project a future decrease in the total number of tropical cyclones, but an increase in the proportion of high intensity storms (stronger winds and greater rainfall)

https://nespclimate.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/A4_4pp_brochure_NESP_ESCC_...

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Extreme weather wreaks havoc around the world

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/extreme-weather-wreaks-havoc-around-the-world

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20410 Perth Gender:	Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue? Reply #25 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:27pm SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 2:36pm: He quoted NASA Not the Murdoch trash or X....A scientific organization....Dickhead!!!
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Reply #26 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:34pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:23pm:

The effects of Climate change is why Governments are moving towards lowering carbon emmissions using renewables and Nuclear....Nobody who matters is listening to you dickheads about some global conspiracy about Climate Change being a hoax...

Now all you have to do is produce data.

From your first reference -

"The occurrence of extreme events is unprecedented in the observed record and will increase with increasing global warming, according to the Sixth Assessment report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Every bit of warming matters."

And I showed that the IPCC did NOT say that.

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:23pm:

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Climate models project a future decrease in the total number of tropical cyclones, but an increase in the proportion of high intensity storms (stronger winds and greater rainfall)

Oh sometime in the future. Those Climate Models that have not been verified, validated or even have start conditions. As the IPCC said not shown. Grin

Did you look at the picture and associated graphs from Nature? They show "destructiveness". Shouldn't more intensity mean more destructiveness.

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 4:23pm:

Extreme weather wreaks havoc around the world

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/extreme-weather-wreaks-havoc-around-the-world

Ooh a public broadcaster. No signs of climate knowledge there. Wink

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Reply #27 - Jan 11^th, 2025 at 10:01pm

The number of wildfires in the US has been reducing for a century. That large reduction in fires was due to better forest management, not climate.

But then…
… Greens reduced forest management and brush clearance.
… Suburbs spread into the forests.
… No new dams were built, due Green activism.
… Increased vagrancy and activism, increased arson.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 11652 armidale Gender:	Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue? Reply #28 - Jan 12^th, 2025 at 5:36am AGW causes jetstream wind extremes in the Arctic, with the LA fires probably linked to that effect. The north-south movement of the jetstream increases. The cyclone graph in #21 shows peaks higher in each region, than pre-1990.
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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 8540	Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue? Reply #29 - Jan 12^th, 2025 at 7:30am An interesting read. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-10/water-supplies-ran-dry-los-angeles-when-n...
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Question: Albo speaks out saying the L.A fires are from climate change
Yes his right 5 (33.3%) No his not 0 (0.0%) He’s a complete fool 7 (46.7%) He is a expert on climate change 1 (6.7%) Inappropriate use of suffering for votes 2 (13.3%) Total votes: 15 « Last Modified by: Daves2017 on: Jan 11^th, 2025 at 2:00pm »