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Question: Albo speaks out saying the L.A fires are from climate change

Yes his right    
  5 (33.3%)
No his not    
  0 (0.0%)
He’s a complete fool    
  7 (46.7%)
He is a expert on climate change    
  1 (6.7%)
Inappropriate use of suffering for votes    
  2 (13.3%)




Total votes: 15
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #30 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 7:51am
 
Scroll down n this link to see several slides (satellite images) before and after fire destruction.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-10/satellite-images-la-fires-before-and-afte...
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #31 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 8:00am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:14pm:
There is no denying Climate Change is making things worse!!!

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Extreme Weather and Climate Change

As the climate changes, the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events are increasing.


Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/extreme-weather/



incorrect.

way more people die from extreme cold then from extreme heat

estimates are that extreme cold kills about 10 x those killed by heat  Smiley
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Reply #32 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 8:13am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 8:00am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:14pm:
There is no denying Climate Change is making things worse!!!

Quote:
Extreme Weather and Climate Change

As the climate changes, the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events are increasing.


Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/extreme-weather/



incorrect.



What's incorrect?   Undecided
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Reply #33 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 8:15am
 
Wikkity Whack.
You know Jack.
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Reply #34 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 8:29am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:14pm:
There is no denying Climate Change is making things worse!!!

Quote:
Extreme Weather and Climate Change

As the climate changes, the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events are increasing.


Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/extreme-weather/


And so is the incompetence & corruption of public servants in charge of water infrastructure maintenance, and water supply .... as well as the over riding issues of priority given to Diversity, Equity & Inclusion in the Los Angeles Fire Dept, who should have been more focused on making sure they have a functioning system & adequate equipment and the qualified man/woman power to fight these natural disaster wild fire occasions - which have been many over many decades.

But no they didn't - vast housing areas/suburbs where reservoirs where empty & fire hydrants had no supply.

The Santa Anna winds are a common occurrence - they were a bit stronger than normal - so what?

I bet they've had 100kph winds before.
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Reply #35 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 8:31am
 
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #36 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 10:25am
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:40am:
freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:22am:
SerialBrain9 wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:30am:
We are having less extreme events - crops are at an all time high - GBR has never had more coral…


Are you saying these all time records are proof that we are having less extreme events?
All Time Records  Cheesy


Yes. In your own words.

Are you saying these all time records are proof that we are having less extreme events?


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Reply #37 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:10am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:54pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:26pm:
Terrible - looks like Hiroshima.  I read that insurance companies are canceling policies as the fires rage.


Fire coverage was cancelled months ago due to Democrats capping insurance price rises.



Just shows the public sector needs to step into weather-related disaster insurance, because private companies can't make a profit out of it. 

But the mainstream "balanced government budget" mythology**  is a barrier to sensible policy.

**Currency-issuing governments face no lack of money, they face lack of resources, CA could hand it's insurance bill to the US treasury. 


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Reply #38 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:17am
 
We need mass extinction of 8 billion humans to survive.
You can order your Chosen Ones Immunity Card at $8 billion a pop. Only 9,000 for sale. No refunds.
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Reply #39 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:17am
 
Many people in CA can not get insurance. It is because the additional risk of climate change is known and proven correct.

All around the world we are seeing 100 year events occuring every 2 or 3 years.
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Reply #40 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:18am
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 8:29am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:14pm:
There is no denying Climate Change is making things worse!!!

Quote:
Extreme Weather and Climate Change

As the climate changes, the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events are increasing.


Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/extreme-weather/


And so is the incompetence & corruption of public servants in charge of water infrastructure maintenance, and water supply .... as well as the over riding issues of priority given to Diversity, Equity & Inclusion in the Los Angeles Fire Dept, who should have been more focused on making sure they have a functioning system & adequate equipment and the qualified man/woman power to fight these natural disaster wild fire occasions - which have been many over many decades.

But no they didn't - vast housing areas/suburbs where reservoirs where empty & fire hydrants had no supply.

The Santa Anna winds are a common occurrence - they were a bit stronger than normal - so what?

I bet they've had 100kph winds before.


Like Clint Eastwood's directing style - none of that Method crap, no diversity, equity and inclusion - just get out there and DO it - maximum of two takes, not a hundred.... and all his movies come in within budget.

What a relief that the tides have finally turned on this crap and we might start to head back to a functioning society and culture with real priorities.

Footnote:-  We all know by now that 'Labor' can't do it and has wrought immeasurable harm - and there is serious doubt about the willingness and ability of the LNP do do it... where does that leave us?

Vote 1 - Grappler Party - We ARE The People!!  Support your country and your own first in draining the billabongs, putting out the garbage, and creating genuine infrastructure and a society and culture that genuinely gives everyone an equal chance.

Hmmm - the ex's grand-daughter (now decided she's populist leso - normal people can't be 'gifted' etc - gotta be an Outlier in all ways) got a Doctorate (through a program, you don't positively contribute significantly to the body of knowledge these days to get a Ph.D) in some airy-fairy thing last year - still waiting to hear about her getting a job..... meantime her brain-damaged (literally) dad has got a job in the NDIS guvco, and thinks his prospects are better if he masquerades as a woman..... his wife shrugged apparently .....  I laugh a lot ....

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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #41 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:29am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:17am:
Many people in CA can not get insurance. It is because the additional risk of climate change is known and proven correct.

All around the world we are seeing 100 year events occuring every 2 or 3 years.


Bollocks - it's Insurance companies making risk assessment based on postcodes/zip codes.

The arseholes do it here as well.

And bollocks to the 2nd highlight too.

We can't control MN - & who said they were 100 yr events?(another recent Climate Change activist invention)

Take Lismore - obviously built in the wrong place - has had 128 major floods in 135 years - some of those years saw 2 floods in the same year.

Makes a mockery of 100 year events does it not?
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Reply #42 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:39am
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 8:29am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:14pm:
There is no denying Climate Change is making things worse!!!

Quote:
Extreme Weather and Climate Change

As the climate changes, the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events are increasing.


Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/extreme-weather/


And so is the incompetence & corruption of public servants in charge of water infrastructure maintenance, and water supply ....


The public servants aren't to blame, the government failing to fund the necessary resources to allow the public sevants to properly do their allocated job is to blame. 

Trump and Musk, via the DOGE, want to eviscerate them even more.

See #37.  


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as well as the over riding issues of priority given to Diversity, Equity & Inclusion


Again, crap issues forced onto 'fair-minded'** liberal politicians because  mainstream economists make them believe the government has to balance its budget like a household. Classic ignorance.

No need for DEI if work for all is mandated, with the public sector being  employer of last resort.  (There is always useeful work which needs to be done, in which the private sector can't make a profit).

** survival of the fittest conservative pollies don't do "fair-mindedness", so its a non-issue for them. 


 
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Reply #43 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:40am
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:29am:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:17am:
Many people in CA can not get insurance. It is because the additional risk of climate change is known and proven correct.

All around the world we are seeing 100 year events occuring every 2 or 3 years.


Bollocks - it's Insurance companies making risk assessment based on postcodes/zip codes.




Here's why you can't get home insurance in California

"climate change is the main driver behind the growing inability of insurers to write or renew home insurance"
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Reply #44 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:49am
 
There must be a reason but I’m wondering why they aren’t using salt water particularly for the fires near the ocean.

I’m reading reports today that they are beginning to run out of water to fight the fires  altogether.

I thought America was a wealthy country? Maybe some more mobile firefighting resources and less bombs and missiles in the next budget eh?
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