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Question: Albo speaks out saying the L.A fires are from climate change

Yes his right    
  5 (33.3%)
No his not    
  0 (0.0%)
He’s a complete fool    
  7 (46.7%)
He is a expert on climate change    
  1 (6.7%)
Inappropriate use of suffering for votes    
  2 (13.3%)




Total votes: 15
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Reply #60 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:45pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:49am:
There must be a reason but I’m wondering why they aren’t using salt water particularly for the fires near the ocean.

I’m reading reports today that they are beginning to run out of water to fight the fires  altogether.

I thought America was a wealthy country? Maybe some more mobile firefighting resources and less bombs and missiles in the next budget eh?


Have you ever heard of the war time "scorched earth" policy that certain countries/ regimes have used over the millenia?

They burn everything to the ground buildings and cropping country - then they salt the earth to render it incapable of re-growing plants/crops.

Pumping shyte loads of salty sea water onto the country will have the potential to cause other problems that will cost millions to rectify.
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #61 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:46pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:37pm:
Then you still avoid the question as to why a billionaire couple now have control over 80% or more of the states & LAs water supplies? ..... sells what was the states back to them .... including "paper water" that doesn't exist & is never supplied.


Same thing applies to Oil, Gas, Minerals and Lumber. Getting the water for free does not mean it costs nothing to get the water.
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #62 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:50pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:46pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:37pm:
Then you still avoid the question as to why a billionaire couple now have control over 80% or more of the states & LAs water supplies? ..... sells what was the states back to them .... including "paper water" that doesn't exist & is never supplied.


Same thing applies to Oil, Gas, Minerals and Lumber. Getting the water for free does not mean it costs nothing to get the water.


It's not about getting the water for free ... it would still have costs but it would be controlled & adequately allocated by the state ... not some billionaire businessman & his wife.

Private entities should not have control of water supplies.

Selling something that doesn't exist - "paper water" is fraudulent practice.
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #63 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:54pm
 
I’m sorry but what is the DEI?
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #64 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:55pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:50pm:
Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:46pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:37pm:
Then you still avoid the question as to why a billionaire couple now have control over 80% or more of the states & LAs water supplies? ..... sells what was the states back to them .... including "paper water" that doesn't exist & is never supplied.


Same thing applies to Oil, Gas, Minerals and Lumber. Getting the water for free does not mean it costs nothing to get the water.


It's not about getting the water for free ... it would still have costs but it would be controlled & adequately allocated by the state ... not some billionaire businessman & his wife.

Private entities should not have control of water supplies.

Selling something that doesn't exist - "paper water" is fraudulent practice.


Would you be more comfortable with a LGBTQ+ colored trans government employee.
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #65 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:58pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:45pm:
Daves2017 wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:49am:
There must be a reason but I’m wondering why they aren’t using salt water particularly for the fires near the ocean.

I’m reading reports today that they are beginning to run out of water to fight the fires  altogether.

I thought America was a wealthy country? Maybe some more mobile firefighting resources and less bombs and missiles in the next budget eh?


Have you ever heard of the war time "scorched earth" policy that certain countries/ regimes have used over the millenia?



They burn everything to the ground buildings and cropping country - then they salt the earth to render it incapable of re-growing plants/crops.

Pumping shyte loads of salty sea water onto the country will have the potential to cause other problems that will cost millions to rectify.


No I hadn’t. Thank you.
I guess the only other option desalination plants being built and used in these horrible events?


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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #66 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:59pm
 
It’s such a terrible situation.


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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #67 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:02pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:58pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:45pm:
Daves2017 wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:49am:
There must be a reason but I’m wondering why they aren’t using salt water particularly for the fires near the ocean.

I’m reading reports today that they are beginning to run out of water to fight the fires  altogether.

I thought America was a wealthy country? Maybe some more mobile firefighting resources and less bombs and missiles in the next budget eh?


Have you ever heard of the war time "scorched earth" policy that certain countries/ regimes have used over the millenia?



They burn everything to the ground buildings and cropping country - then they salt the earth to render it incapable of re-growing plants/crops.

Pumping shyte loads of salty sea water onto the country will have the potential to cause other problems that will cost millions to rectify.


No I hadn’t. Thank you.
I guess the only other option desalination plants being built and used in these horrible events?




Or better and cheaper still is to do what Trump said in 2020.

Release less water into the ocean and keep enough to fight fires. The answer is staring everyone in the face but they can't see it.
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #68 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 7:25pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:54pm:
I’m sorry but what is the DEI?


It's been in the previous posts made

D = DIVERSITY
E = EQUITY
I = INCLUSIVENESS

The PC WOKE LGBITQ + workplace agenda.

The LAFD Chief is openly gay & this has been a part of her agenda in that organisation. She was under scrutinny about workplace priorities before thses wildfires.

Funny how she didn't do anything about the lack of water supply to the fire hydrants in the Pacific Palisades and the whole area burnt to the ground.
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Reply #69 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 7:28pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:55pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:50pm:
Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:46pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:37pm:
Then you still avoid the question as to why a billionaire couple now have control over 80% or more of the states & LAs water supplies? ..... sells what was the states back to them .... including "paper water" that doesn't exist & is never supplied.


Same thing applies to Oil, Gas, Minerals and Lumber. Getting the water for free does not mean it costs nothing to get the water.


It's not about getting the water for free ... it would still have costs but it would be controlled & adequately allocated by the state ... not some billionaire businessman & his wife.

Private entities should not have control of water supplies.

Selling something that doesn't exist - "paper water" is fraudulent practice.


Would you be more comfortable with a LGBTQ+ colored trans government employee.


What the phuk is wrong with you?

Answer the question.

LGBITQ & trans or coloured employees has been more of a priority agenda for the LA Fire Chief Kristin Crowley.
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #70 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 11:48am
 
Leroy wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 3:02pm:
Daves2017 wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:58pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:45pm:
Daves2017 wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 11:49am:
There must be a reason but I’m wondering why they aren’t using salt water particularly for the fires near the ocean.

I’m reading reports today that they are beginning to run out of water to fight the fires  altogether.

I thought America was a wealthy country? Maybe some more mobile firefighting resources and less bombs and missiles in the next budget eh?


Have you ever heard of the war time "scorched earth" policy that certain countries/ regimes have used over the millenia?



They burn everything to the ground buildings and cropping country - then they salt the earth to render it incapable of re-growing plants/crops.

Pumping shyte loads of salty sea water onto the country will have the potential to cause other problems that will cost millions to rectify.


No I hadn’t. Thank you.
I guess the only other option desalination plants being built and used in these horrible events?




Or better and cheaper still is to do what Trump said in 2020.

Release less water into the ocean and keep enough to fight fires. The answer is staring everyone in the face but they can't see it.


The state doesn't own the water - it's privately owned - the owners control any releases weather it be for their own use(irrigation), supplying the state or upon govt request to allow natural stream to ocean environmental flows.

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #71 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 12:45pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:37pm:
After the affect(the fires) the LAFD Chief pointed the finger at the mayor for slashing her budget by $17.6 million.



Crap.. there were no finding cuts. Funding went up. The only thing on hold was the money set aside for wages, and that was because they were still in negotiations 'over pay rises' for the year. Even that wasn't 'cut' ... it was just put aside into a separate account until the negotiations were over and it could be properly allocated
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Reply #72 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 12:49pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 12:45pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:37pm:
After the affect(the fires) the LAFD Chief pointed the finger at the mayor for slashing her budget by $17.6 million.



Crap.. there were no funding cuts. Funding went up. The only thing on hold was the money set aside for wages, and that was because they were still in negotiations 'over pay rises' for the year. Even that wasn't 'cut' ... it was just put aside into a separate account until the negotiations were over and it could be properly allocated


100% correct - every word.

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Reply #73 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 12:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 12:49pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 12:45pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2025 at 2:37pm:
After the affect(the fires) the LAFD Chief pointed the finger at the mayor for slashing her budget by $17.6 million.



Crap.. there were no funding cuts. Funding went up. The only thing on hold was the money set aside for wages, and that was because they were still in negotiations 'over pay rises' for the year. Even that wasn't 'cut' ... it was just put aside into a separate account until the negotiations were over and it could be properly allocated


100% correct - every word.



the fires are a disaster for the left and will increase trumps popularity

100% correct  -  every word  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #74 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 1:01pm
 
When a 'government' treats an essential of life as a commodity, from which said government then creates an artificial market and then 'sells' that commodity of life for a 'profit' to its chosen mates for their immense profit - thus leaving those in the most direct need without that commodity or actually paying excessively for it - that 'government' is liable for all the costs of any ensuing disaster.

Governments here had best take note of that...... and get their freaking hands out of the natural water supplies that they sell off for 'profit' that does nothing for those directly affected.

We hear a lot of raving about 'the rights of indigenous peoples' and such - as if that suddenly translates into 'gimme all that land I demand' etc - and yet one of the absolute Rights of any people - to clean water - is being stolen by governments themselves and turned to ruin for a few filthy pieces of silver to provide themselves and their lackeys with fat salaries and perks.  It's the same with other basic rights - such as the right to travel to pharken work without it costing you an arm and a leg on 'private road and rail', and then there is your power to the home and gas etc.....  How many times have we wiser heads told you - over and over - that such things are matters of national security and security of the nation's people first and foremost?

"The right to water entitles everyone to have access to sufficient, safe, acceptable, physically accessible, and affordable water for personal and domestic use." 

https://www.unwater.org/water-facts/human-rights-water-and-sanitation

Does not that mean an adequate amount to defend home and hearth (sic) from raging fire?

People need to wake up - and if Trump is going to dictate that California's water be resumed - full steam head, Donald!  I suppose California governments have a ban on water tanks because they somehow affect all that water wasted into the oceans.... FFS.

Governments in our culture long ago stopped being a service to the people and have become instead a service to themselves and their chosen sets of mates.  WAKE UP!
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