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Question: Albo speaks out saying the L.A fires are from climate change

Yes his right    
  5 (33.3%)
No his not    
  0 (0.0%)
He’s a complete fool    
  7 (46.7%)
He is a expert on climate change    
  1 (6.7%)
Inappropriate use of suffering for votes    
  2 (13.3%)




Total votes: 15
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Reply #90 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:02pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
You mean the winds that are not responsible for the wildfires, according to Soren and Lee, amongst others on here, Sophia? 



Just another lie from lyin' Bwian. So tell us how wind starts fires. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Watch the video.

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Reply #91 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:06pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
Sophia wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 7:40pm:
Just at beginning of this tic Tok vid shows the ferocities of that wind!
Shocked

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6xj85sQ/
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You mean the winds that are not responsible for the wildfires, according to Soren and Lee, amongst others on here, Sophia?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ooh did I just get my own Tsks  Shocked

A combination of sorts will do it. We were in areas that were lucky not to burn while both Ash Wednesday fires (early 1980s) and Black Saterday fires (2009) Flying ember attack was our main worry.
Water would help!
As this next vid shows how…
I’m thinking they left sprinklers on, left the house, but came back to empty pool but house still standing.

See this next vid…

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6xjXqKV/

We have a dam and local CFA know they have our permission to access it if they need water.


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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #92 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:18pm
 
All the incompetent woke wastrels now have a universal, unverifiable, all-purpose excuse: climate!

Rome burned down in 64, London in 1666. New York, 1776,  Chicago, 1871Not climate.
Any calamity now: climate.

Easy.

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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #93 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:19pm
 
Sophia wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:06pm:
We have a dam and local CFA know they have our permission to access it if they need water.




I'm glad you gave permission, thank you.

When younger I was the captain of emergency response and used to visit industrial sites to create a database of inventory for emergencies. We used to prepare for everything from bushfires, dam bursts and bus crashes and formulate plans should they eventuate. Something not many knew about was that we could just take what we needed for any situation, be it machinery, water and other supplies. It was never a problem because everyone was always willing to help and the captain knowing you have already given permission makes it much easier for him to make a call without worrying if you might be upset about it.
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #94 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:41pm
 
I’m calling it.

This was one terrorist with one match that has made l.a look a lot like Gazza.

The government officials in charge need to arrested.
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Reply #95 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:41pm
 
Re: the fires I mentioned below as we had attended fb meetings while looking at close mountain ranges burning…we were told how the wind carries the embers to start new fires… that if we see a fresh fire starting to let the cfa know…as we may be the first to see it, so the cfa get to it before it becomes bigger. The 50 degree heat that day was scary. We never did rest and kept vigil on our surrounds every 20 minutes. Lots of falling ash and smoke smelling like burnt eucalyptus.

My daughter’s bgf… her dad is local police… he and one other responded to a call for help from elderlies in the country area where fire burned their vehicle… the 2 policemen got there only to be surrounded by fire and couldn’t get out.. they phoned their wives to say goodbye.

The fireball reached the fence near house… then… the winds changed and pushed the fire away from the house. They all survived!
The police got some bravery honours of some sort. The wife of the cop we know… was telling me she said “don’t ever do that again to say goodbye!” Etc.
She was besides herself.
How scary the unpredictability of fires.

I recall a saying once…fire is a good servant but a bad master.

The main thing I would put into storage to save are photos in all media types.
Furniture, tv, beds, clothes, vehicles, it can all be replaced. Not photos though.

And yes, every summer I dread it here. On acreage and a tree area.
I’m glad we had heavy rains 2 days ago!

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Reply #96 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:52pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:19pm:
Sophia wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:06pm:
We have a dam and local CFA know they have our permission to access it if they need water.




I'm glad you gave permission, thank you.

When younger I was the captain of emergency response and used to visit industrial sites to create a database of inventory for emergencies. We used to prepare for everything from bushfires, dam bursts and bus crashes and formulate plans should they eventuate. Something not many knew about was that we could just take what we needed for any situation, be it machinery, water and other supplies. It was never a problem because everyone was always willing to help and the captain knowing you have already given permission makes it much easier for him to make a call without worrying if you might be upset about it.


We are fortunate to have 2 cfa so close to us.
And a dam they can access! Because after all… we may need the help and it did happen, one hot afternoon… a fire started in our gazebo, from a power board.
We had the golf buggy and so much other stuff burn…it was 36 degrees that day.

When there’s a fire reaching up the tall gum trees… and every minute waiting for firemen to arrive… felt like an eternity… I was grateful no wind that day… or our house only 10 metres away.

We have attended emergency fb meetings in our area during the black Saterday fires so we were better equipped to know what to do. I recommend it to everyone.
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #97 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:02pm:
Watch the video.


Why does it show wind lighting fires? Wink

Or perhaps wind carrying burning embers, a much more likely scenario. In which case the fire is already there. Roll Eyes
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #98 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:00pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:57pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:02pm:
Watch the video.


Why does it show wind lighting fires? Wink

Or perhaps wind carrying burning embers, a much more likely scenario. In which case the fire is already there. Roll Eyes


An ember isn't a wildfire.

The wind is the culprit.

Watch the video and learn something for a change.

Or, make another silly comment and follow it up with lots of laughing emojis.

Your call.

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Reply #99 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:04pm
 
In the later 1980s we did have a house burn … it was the old original wooden farm house on property and we lived in the brick house about 50 metres away.

How it started, the fella renting it off us, was renovating… they extended the bathroom as we had a clawed bath we gave them… now the house had an original open fireplace.
When the extra room overlapped part of a wall near the fireplace (forensic expert told us this) because the original internal wood in wall was so dry and brittle and the extension covered it… it self combusted.

So here’s the guy had been drinking quite a bit… put more wood in fireplace (it’s midwinter) and went to bed.
The fire ignited and started burning the house …. his dog saved him by muzzling into him to wake up…
He did and could only escape through bedroom window with dog.
Once window was open it really gave the fire more air to burn faster.

I walked through the house with the chief fireman during the day… it was so toxic I covered my nose… he made a comment about how toxic it is and how some people are overcome just by that alone.
He didn’t have to convince me!
The claw bath was still in one piece! I was pleased. It was filled with water from the fireman putting out the fire.
As soon as I touched the bath it snapped in half! Water poured out!
Wow … I couldn’t believe it!
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #100 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:12pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
You mean the winds that are not responsible for the wildfires, according to Soren and Lee, amongst others on here, Sophia? 


Just another lie from lyin' Bwian. So tell us how wind starts fires. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Doesn't start a wildfire, Lee but it fans it and makes it bigger and bigger.  You're deliberately misunderstanding what was implied in my statement.  Are you denying that you claimed the winds were not responsible for the wildfire?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #101 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:00pm:
lee wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:57pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 8:02pm:
Watch the video.


Why does it show wind lighting fires? Wink

Or perhaps wind carrying burning embers, a much more likely scenario. In which case the fire is already there. Roll Eyes


An ember isn't a wildfire.

The wind is the culprit.

Watch the video and learn something for a change.

Or, make another silly comment and follow it up with lots of laughing emojis.

Your call.



The wind scares me most when there’s fires.
Fires can start by humans(accidental with lawn movers or cigarette buts, or deliberate) or by electric powerlines, or lightning.
But wind can create fireballs that go kilometres in just a short time!
Flying ember attacks!
We put filled buckets of water all around perimeter of house, with super soaker guns to squirt on roof to extinguish flying embers, and old cotton mops to soak in water and put out burning embers on ground.

Yes we stay and fight. But with escape if we need to.
But when there’s fires, and winds pick up… I don’t sleep.
Keep vigil.


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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #102 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:14pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:12pm:
Doesn't start a wildfire, Lee but it fans it and makes it bigger and bigger.



Thank you. So they are not responsible for wildfires, but merely the spread.

You need to tell gweggy. Roll Eyes

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:12pm:
Are you denying that you claimed the winds were not responsible for the wildfire?


They didn't light the fire. Officials don't know the root cause. The spread is a different responsibility.

For a fire of any kind you need an ignition source. Roll Eyes
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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #103 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:16pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:12pm:
Doesn't start a wildfire, Lee but it fans it and makes it bigger and bigger.



Thank you. So they are not responsible for wildfires, ...


Incorrect.

They are responsible for wildfires.

Without the wind, you just have a fire (or an ember).



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Re: the terrible fires in L.A a climate change issue?
Reply #104 - Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2025 at 9:16pm:
They are responsible for wildfires.

Without the wind, you just have a fire (or an ember).



Incorrect. A wildfire is named for the size of the fire. and it being uncontrolled.

"a fire that is burning strongly and out of control on an area of grass or bushes in the countryside: "

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/wildfire

You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own definitions. Roll Eyes

And don't forget fires can create their own winds.
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