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Reply #15 - Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:00pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:57pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

What seems to be the problem, has the world not worked that way since money was discovered.

That was the point of the US Constitution, wasn't it?

To protect the people from tyrants and oligarchs... the founders had all read Plato.

Constitution is for the voters not the rich and powerful.

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Reply #16 - Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:01pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Zuckerberg was just fine when he followed dems orders.

And now he'll be following the orders of the tech bro alphas.

So status quo, the rich have just taken over the rich.

The richest of the richest of the rich... more powerful with more available resources than any other singular group in history...

They can't be voted out, and now they have a US president in their collective back pocket... Thomas Jefferson's worst nightmare.

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Reply #17 - Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:03pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:00pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:57pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

What seems to be the problem, has the world not worked that way since money was discovered.

That was the point of the US Constitution, wasn't it?

To protect the people from tyrants and oligarchs... the founders had all read Plato.

Constitution is for the voters not the rich and powerful.

No, it was to protect the people from tyrants and oligarchs... To create a Platonic republic.

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Re: Biden Warns of Tech Oligarchy
Reply #18 - Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:04pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:01pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Zuckerberg was just fine when he followed dems orders.

And now he'll be following the orders of the tech bro alphas.

So status quo, the rich have just taken over the rich.

The richest of the richest of the rich... more powerful with more available resources than any other singular group in history...

They can't be voted out, and now they have a US president in their collective back pocket... Thomas Jefferson's worst nightmare.

Did they create this power or did they take if from someone.

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Re: Biden Warns of Tech Oligarchy
Reply #19 - Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:06pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:04pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:01pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Zuckerberg was just fine when he followed dems orders.

And now he'll be following the orders of the tech bro alphas.

So status quo, the rich have just taken over the rich.

The richest of the richest of the rich... more powerful with more available resources than any other singular group in history...

They can't be voted out, and now they have a US president in their collective back pocket... Thomas Jefferson's worst nightmare.

Did they create this power or did they take if from someone.

Power is always something that's taken - either by force, coercion, blackmail or bribery.

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Reply #20 - Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:06pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:03pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:00pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:57pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

What seems to be the problem, has the world not worked that way since money was discovered.

That was the point of the US Constitution, wasn't it?

To protect the people from tyrants and oligarchs... the founders had all read Plato.

Constitution is for the voters not the rich and powerful.

No, it was to protect the people from tyrants and oligarchs... To create a Platonic republic.

Well that didn't work did it. So which part of the constitution are they ignoring that was respected by the rich before?.

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Reply #21 - Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:07pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:06pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:04pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:01pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Zuckerberg was just fine when he followed dems orders.

And now he'll be following the orders of the tech bro alphas.

So status quo, the rich have just taken over the rich.

The richest of the richest of the rich... more powerful with more available resources than any other singular group in history...

They can't be voted out, and now they have a US president in their collective back pocket... Thomas Jefferson's worst nightmare.

Did they create this power or did they take if from someone.

Power is always something that's taken - either by force, coercion, blackmail or bribery.

Who did they take the power from?.

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Re: Biden Warns of Tech Oligarchy
Reply #22 - Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:11pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:03pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:00pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:57pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

What seems to be the problem, has the world not worked that way since money was discovered.

That was the point of the US Constitution, wasn't it?

To protect the people from tyrants and oligarchs... the founders had all read Plato.

Constitution is for the voters not the rich and powerful.

No, it was to protect the people from tyrants and oligarchs... To create a Platonic republic.

Well that didn't work did it. So which part of the constitution are they ignoring that was respected by the rich before?.

The flaw was their gross misunderstanding of regal power. They created a presidency that they thought could be contained, but who can rule by decree... so long as their decrees are respected and obeyed. Turns out it's likely not unconstitutional for a president to pardon himself, even preemptively.

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Reply #23 - Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:13pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:07pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:06pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:04pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:01pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Zuckerberg was just fine when he followed dems orders.

And now he'll be following the orders of the tech bro alphas.

So status quo, the rich have just taken over the rich.

The richest of the richest of the rich... more powerful with more available resources than any other singular group in history...

They can't be voted out, and now they have a US president in their collective back pocket... Thomas Jefferson's worst nightmare.

Did they create this power or did they take if from someone.

Power is always something that's taken - either by force, coercion, blackmail or bribery.

Who did they take the power from?.

Ultimately from democratic institutions. Unlikely by force... but in the same way the industrial-military-congressional complex took power from them.

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Reply #24 - Jan 16^th, 2025 at 11:22pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:13pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:07pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:06pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:04pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:01pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Zuckerberg was just fine when he followed dems orders.

And now he'll be following the orders of the tech bro alphas.

So status quo, the rich have just taken over the rich.

The richest of the richest of the rich... more powerful with more available resources than any other singular group in history...

They can't be voted out, and now they have a US president in their collective back pocket... Thomas Jefferson's worst nightmare.

Did they create this power or did they take if from someone.

Power is always something that's taken - either by force, coercion, blackmail or bribery.

Who did they take the power from?.

Ultimately from democratic institutions. Unlikely by force... but in the same way the industrial-military-congressional complex took power from them.

Democratic institutions don't have power, the power is with whoever has control of that institution. Everything is interpretation by whoever has that power.

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Reply #25 - Jan 16^th, 2025 at 11:30pm

I'll take another bow for re-introducing into discussion the term 'robber barons' - although I used the term New Robber Barons as you recall. It takes a while for reality to sink into the public arena and begin to ferment ... but it is moving more quickly now that Woke Has Fallen.

One at a time ... one at a time... the bleach blindness will wane from the eyes of they who refuse to see once they work out they can't afford bleach any more .... and once Woke has been cremated, dead and buried - the civilised world will start looking at the other parasites and vultures destroying it and those in it.

Hey - you Yanks! You threw out the Brits over 'taxation without representation' - how come you are willing to pay your billions in tithes - a form of hidden tax whereby the dollars vanish offshore by the shipload - to these robber barons hiding in tax havens who are raping your economy and thus your lifestyle? If they don't pay the taxes - you do - so it's taxation without any chance of representation!! Y'all need a New Revolution...

How the wheels of history turn ....

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Reply #26 - Jan 16^th, 2025 at 11:37pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 11:22pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:13pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:07pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:06pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:04pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:01pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Zuckerberg was just fine when he followed dems orders.

And now he'll be following the orders of the tech bro alphas.

So status quo, the rich have just taken over the rich.

The richest of the richest of the rich... more powerful with more available resources than any other singular group in history...

They can't be voted out, and now they have a US president in their collective back pocket... Thomas Jefferson's worst nightmare.

Did they create this power or did they take if from someone.

Power is always something that's taken - either by force, coercion, blackmail or bribery.

Who did they take the power from?.

Ultimately from democratic institutions. Unlikely by force... but in the same way the industrial-military-congressional complex took power from them.

Democratic institutions don't have power, the power is with whoever has control of that institution. Everything is interpretation by whoever has that power.

That's an infantile comprehension of democratic power and its constitutional separation among the legislative, executive, and judicial.

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Reply #27 - Jan 16^th, 2025 at 11:46pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 11:37pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 11:22pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:13pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:07pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:06pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:04pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:01pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Zuckerberg was just fine when he followed dems orders.

And now he'll be following the orders of the tech bro alphas.

So status quo, the rich have just taken over the rich.

The richest of the richest of the rich... more powerful with more available resources than any other singular group in history...

They can't be voted out, and now they have a US president in their collective back pocket... Thomas Jefferson's worst nightmare.

Did they create this power or did they take if from someone.

Power is always something that's taken - either by force, coercion, blackmail or bribery.

Who did they take the power from?.

Ultimately from democratic institutions. Unlikely by force... but in the same way the industrial-military-congressional complex took power from them.

Democratic institutions don't have power, the power is with whoever has control of that institution. Everything is interpretation by whoever has that power.

That's an infantile comprehension of democratic power and its constitutional separation among the legislative, executive, and judicial.

Are you adult enough to admit that those in power abused the
legislative, executive, and judicial institutions to go after Trump.

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Re: Biden Warns of Tech Oligarchy
Reply #28 - Jan 17^th, 2025 at 4:55am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:06pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:04pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:01pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:58pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:48pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 9:38pm:

Zuckerberg was just fine when he followed dems orders.

And now he'll be following the orders of the tech bro alphas.

So status quo, the rich have just taken over the rich.

The richest of the richest of the rich... more powerful with more available resources than any other singular group in history...

They can't be voted out, and now they have a US president in their collective back pocket... Thomas Jefferson's worst nightmare.

Did they create this power or did they take if from someone.

Power is always something that's taken - either by force, coercion, blackmail or bribery.

nah

most people just give it away.
most people are scared, tired , feel they live in scarcity, feel they are victins of their environment.

they exercise virtually no power and just want to be "taken care of"

this worsens every year as governments offer their titties to the perpetual infants who have no intention of weaning off that titty.

these people never had their power stolen.
they surrendered it
they find words like "personal responsibility" repulsive.
if they were to take on that burden, how could they play the victim?
how could they have someone to blame or their own mediocre existence?

if you read the 48 laws of power, you will see someone like trump follows nearly every law Wink

its his superpower.

he uderstands how the masses think

how did he learn?

millions of hours of pressing the flesh, reference eperiences and A B testing.

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