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Reply #45 - Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:34pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:08pm:

It's the Big Brother Media of the Left
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The New World Order Internet of the Right

people on the left are probably more soft but they are fairly incompetant

people on the right tend to be a bit nastier but they are more competant

do you want a kind silly father or a competant stern father

i prefer the latter

a lot of people prefer the wishy woshy though.

no problem

horses for courses

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Reply #46 - Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:40pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 1:46pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 11:15am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 8:41pm:

Biden warns US on verge of tech billionaire 'oligarchy'

And he's not wrong...

From Peter Thiel's eccentric, yet successful, application for a New Zealand passport - then his unsuccessful building permit applications to build a 'Fuhrer Bunker' style dwelling in its South Island, to Elon Musk's lambasting foreign heads of government - using his almost monopoly of social media...

To Zuckerberg's 'welcome' into the 'tech bro' fold...

The US, and the world, will soon be reckoning with an oligarchy the size, combined power and wealth of which the world has never seen.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-16/joe-biden-farewell-address-oval-office-te...

Is it by any chance same Big Tech oligarchy that colluded with the Dems to filter and deplatforming Trump on Farcebook, Twatter, Guurgle, Big Media and the rest? Biden should tell us ( or rather whoever has his hand up the moth eaten sock puppet should tell us).

The Lefties are projecting their sins onto Trump, once again.

You've got to stop seeing the truth and facts as a campaign against you.

It's not.

You've just chosen to believe and align with bullshit.

When that bullshit is called out, it's not a personal attack, it's just reality knocking on your door.

By all means, continue to ignore it, you do it constantly, but it doesn't make you a victim of a plot against you, it just makes you a gullible moron who prefers to live in a safe space of misinformation than confront the truth that what you believe may not be true.

It's funny you'll go on about lefties projecting when you and those like you are the biggest snowflakes of all with more safe spaces than a pussyhat-wearing social justice warrior, while being so quick to accuse others of needing a safe space.

It's hilarious how pathetic you've become, in victory no less...

I can't imagine what a cry baby you'd be if Trump lost given how many tears you're shedding on a daily basis after he won...

Emo sludge. Say something intelligent. Try.

Where are the conservative, common sense 'safe places'?
Deplatforming and cancelling and firing people for wrong thought is real. You are not a snowflake for noticing it.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12985 Gender:	Re: Biden Warns of Tech Oligarchy Reply #47 - Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:50pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:28pm: as i said, decide WHY you are bouncing out of bed and then adopt the truth that serves your purpose. Said the tortoise to the hare!
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Re: Biden Warns of Tech Oligarchy
Reply #48 - Jan 17^th, 2025 at 8:52pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:34pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:08pm:

It's the Big Brother Media of the Left
V
The New World Order Internet of the Right

people on the left are probably more soft but they are fairly incompetant

people on the right tend to be a bit nastier but they are more competant

Strange. What did you say about your DL's incompetency, bloatedness and obesity again?

We'll await your sincere reply.

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Reply #49 - Jan 18^th, 2025 at 7:55am

Karnal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 8:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:34pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 7:08pm:

It's the Big Brother Media of the Left
V
The New World Order Internet of the Right

people on the left are probably more soft but they are fairly incompetant

people on the right tend to be a bit nastier but they are more competant

Strange. What did you say about your DL's incompetency, bloatedness and obesity again?

We'll await your sincere reply.

And a sincere reply you shall have

The fact that Trump was able to achieve what he has achieved despite and I repeatDespite

Being sloppy
Being fat
Eating front bottom
Cheating on his wife
Being A convicted rapist

Only means that his powers of persuasion

Must be even more epic

It makes him even more interesting as a subject of study
And if you are in business
And you are not interested in the power of persuasion
I would suggest you go get a job in the public service

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Re: Biden Warns of Tech Oligarchy
Reply #50 - Jan 18^th, 2025 at 8:25am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 10:02pm:

Trump is creating, then attempting to manage and control, an oligarchy ruled by an autocrat.

His Achilles heel is that, as the democratically elected potentate he imagines himself to be and constrained by term limits, he is dispensable... the oligarchs he's creating are not.

Exactly!

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Reply #51 - Jan 18^th, 2025 at 10:11am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 8:25am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 17^th, 2025 at 10:02pm:

Trump is creating, then attempting to manage and control, an oligarchy ruled by an autocrat.

His Achilles heel is that, as the democratically elected potentate he imagines himself to be and constrained by term limits, he is dispensable... the oligarchs he's creating are not.

Exactly!

I don't think Trump created the super rich.

Rethink your opening and try again

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Reply #53 - Jan 18^th, 2025 at 1:33pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 10:14am:

Being super-rich is not a synonym for being an oligarch.

Tyranny, as I was saying, is monarchy exercising the rule of a master over the political society; oligarchy is when men of property have the government in their hands; democracy, the opposite, when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. And here arises the first of our difficulties, and it relates to the distinction drawn. For democracy is said to be the government of the many. But what if the many are men of property and have the power in their hands? In like manner oligarchy is said to be the government of the few; but what if the poor are fewer than the rich, and have the power in their hands because they are stronger?
Aristotle, Politics, book 3.

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Leroy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1293 Gender:	Re: Biden Warns of Tech Oligarchy Reply #54 - Jan 18^th, 2025 at 1:38pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 10:14am: Being super-rich is not a synonym for being an oligarch. What makes Musk a oligarch?.
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Reply #55 - Jan 18^th, 2025 at 3:17pm

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 1:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 10:14am:

Being super-rich is not a synonym for being an oligarch.

Tyranny, as I was saying, is monarchy exercising the rule of a master over the political society; oligarchy is when men of property have the government in their hands; democracy, the opposite, when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. And here arises the first of our difficulties, and it relates to the distinction drawn. For democracy is said to be the government of the many. But what if the many are men of property and have the power in their hands? In like manner oligarchy is said to be the government of the few; but what if the poor are fewer than the rich, and have the power in their hands because they are stronger?
Aristotle, Politics, book 3.

So, according to Aristotle, you must already be a man of property before you can become an oligarch.

No doubt even in ancient Greece, you could also be a man of property and not an oligarch.

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Reply #56 - Jan 18^th, 2025 at 3:33pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 3:17pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 1:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 10:14am:

Being super-rich is not a synonym for being an oligarch.

Tyranny, as I was saying, is monarchy exercising the rule of a master over the political society; oligarchy is when men of property have the government in their hands; democracy, the opposite, when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. And here arises the first of our difficulties, and it relates to the distinction drawn. For democracy is said to be the government of the many. But what if the many are men of property and have the power in their hands? In like manner oligarchy is said to be the government of the few; but what if the poor are fewer than the rich, and have the power in their hands because they are stronger?
Aristotle, Politics, book 3.

So, according to Aristotle, you must already be a man of property before you can become an oligarch.

No doubt even in ancient Greece, you could also be a man of property and not an oligarch.

Oligarch means a few rich individuals have the government in their hands. Political power due to wealth. Democracy means rule by the many, the poor. Political power due to the weight of numbers.

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Reply #57 - Jan 18^th, 2025 at 3:37pm

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 3:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 3:17pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 1:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 10:14am:

Being super-rich is not a synonym for being an oligarch.

Tyranny, as I was saying, is monarchy exercising the rule of a master over the political society; oligarchy is when men of property have the government in their hands; democracy, the opposite, when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. And here arises the first of our difficulties, and it relates to the distinction drawn. For democracy is said to be the government of the many. But what if the many are men of property and have the power in their hands? In like manner oligarchy is said to be the government of the few; but what if the poor are fewer than the rich, and have the power in their hands because they are stronger?
Aristotle, Politics, book 3.

So, according to Aristotle, you must already be a man of property before you can become an oligarch.

No doubt even in ancient Greece, you could also be a man of property and not an oligarch.

Oligarch means a few rich individuals have the government in their hands. Democracy means rule by the many, the poor.

in the 21st century, democratic rule includes more than the poor - i.e. the unpropertied, in Aristotlean speak.

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Reply #58 - Jan 18^th, 2025 at 5:29pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 3:37pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 3:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 3:17pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 1:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 10:14am:

Being super-rich is not a synonym for being an oligarch.

Tyranny, as I was saying, is monarchy exercising the rule of a master over the political society; oligarchy is when men of property have the government in their hands; democracy, the opposite, when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. And here arises the first of our difficulties, and it relates to the distinction drawn. For democracy is said to be the government of the many. But what if the many are men of property and have the power in their hands? In like manner oligarchy is said to be the government of the few; but what if the poor are fewer than the rich, and have the power in their hands because they are stronger?
Aristotle, Politics, book 3.

So, according to Aristotle, you must already be a man of property before you can become an oligarch.

No doubt even in ancient Greece, you could also be a man of property and not an oligarch.

Oligarch means a few rich individuals have the government in their hands. Democracy means rule by the many, the poor.

in the 21st century, democratic rule includes more than the poor - i.e. the unpropertied, in Aristotlean speak.

Unpropertied = poor.

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Reply #59 - Jan 18^th, 2025 at 7:41pm

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 5:29pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 3:37pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 3:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 3:17pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 1:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 18^th, 2025 at 10:14am:

Being super-rich is not a synonym for being an oligarch.

Tyranny, as I was saying, is monarchy exercising the rule of a master over the political society; oligarchy is when men of property have the government in their hands; democracy, the opposite, when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. And here arises the first of our difficulties, and it relates to the distinction drawn. For democracy is said to be the government of the many. But what if the many are men of property and have the power in their hands? In like manner oligarchy is said to be the government of the few; but what if the poor are fewer than the rich, and have the power in their hands because they are stronger?
Aristotle, Politics, book 3.

So, according to Aristotle, you must already be a man of property before you can become an oligarch.

No doubt even in ancient Greece, you could also be a man of property and not an oligarch.

Oligarch means a few rich individuals have the government in their hands. Democracy means rule by the many, the poor.

in the 21st century, democratic rule includes more than the poor - i.e. the unpropertied, in Aristotlean speak.

Unpropertied = poor.

So, those who rent, or lease are poor in the 21st century?

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