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Reply #90 - Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:20am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:14am:

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Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 9:56am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 9:43am:

Trump quipped that Musk came to him begging like a dog to be let in...

Nonsense.

The other way around, you reckon...

Absolutely.

Trump begged Musk to back him.

Yes Musk bought the presidency and the president.

Yep.

But once he realises how hard the job is (like Trump did after just a few days into his first term), and how stupid Trump is, he'll move on to something else.

They both hate each other, but Trump wants Musk's money and Musk wants Trump's power.

It won't last.

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Reply #91 - Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:36am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

I’m guessing you’re old enough to understand something of the status dynamics between uber-alpha men.

Yes old enough, worked in plenty of situations where it was necessary.

One important part of a productive workplace is the right amount of leaders and followers. A lot of companies hire too many go getters and they end up with a bottleneck at the top.

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Reply #92 - Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:41am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

I’m guessing you’re old enough to understand something of the status dynamics between uber-alpha men.

Tell you something else I'm old enough to know. In the government services you get promoted until you are incompetent. You do a good job you move up, again you do a good job and up you go. Finally you are promoted to a position you don't do very well, you don't get promoted anymore and you stay in a position you don't do very well.

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Reply #94 - Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:53am

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:36am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

I’m guessing you’re old enough to understand something of the status dynamics between uber-alpha men.

Yes old enough, worked in plenty of situations where it was necessary.

One important part of a productive workplace is the right amount of leaders and followers. A lot of companies hire too many go getters and they end up with a bottleneck at the top.

Most go getters are either good communicators or good politicians they are almost never good workers.

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Reply #95 - Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:59am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:53am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:36am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

I’m guessing you’re old enough to understand something of the status dynamics between uber-alpha men.

Yes old enough, worked in plenty of situations where it was necessary.

One important part of a productive workplace is the right amount of leaders and followers. A lot of companies hire too many go getters and they end up with a bottleneck at the top.

Most go getters are either good communicators or good politicians they are almost never good workers.

Its all semantics isn't it, plodders don't like go getters.

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Reply #96 - Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:09pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:59am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:53am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:36am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

I’m guessing you’re old enough to understand something of the status dynamics between uber-alpha men.

Yes old enough, worked in plenty of situations where it was necessary.

One important part of a productive workplace is the right amount of leaders and followers. A lot of companies hire too many go getters and they end up with a bottleneck at the top.

Most go getters are either good communicators or good politicians they are almost never good workers.

Its all semantics isn't it, plodders don't like go getters.

No lots of people do the job well but don't do sell themself well while other sell themself very well without actually doing much. It is a solid trend in most businesses.

I knew one guy who would start working politically at his next job up the ladder as soon as he moved into his current position, He never actually did the job he was being paid to do. It worked for him Management thought he was terrific everyone else knew he was doing nothing.

3 of us went on a training course we were not qualified to attend. we didn't have the base product knowledge for upgrade training. We came out of it with no useable knowledge. I asked the guys if they got anything from it. The guy who was a good tech got the same as me (nothing) the politician got all he needed - He openly said that he got enough buzz words to be able to impress anyone in upper management. He had no intention or ability to actually support the product. He got the politics.

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Reply #97 - Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:16pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:09pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:59am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:53am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:36am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

I’m guessing you’re old enough to understand something of the status dynamics between uber-alpha men.

Yes old enough, worked in plenty of situations where it was necessary.

One important part of a productive workplace is the right amount of leaders and followers. A lot of companies hire too many go getters and they end up with a bottleneck at the top.

Most go getters are either good communicators or good politicians they are almost never good workers.

Its all semantics isn't it, plodders don't like go getters.

No lots of people do the job well but don't do sell themself well while other sell themself very well without actually doing much. It is a solid trend in most businesses.

I knew one guy who would start working politically at his next job up the ladder as soon as he moved into his current position, He never actually did the job he was being paid to do. It worked for him Management thought he was terrific everyone else knew he was doing nothing.

Doesn't sound like a productive workplace.

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Reply #98 - Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:18pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:09pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:59am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:53am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:36am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

I’m guessing you’re old enough to understand something of the status dynamics between uber-alpha men.

Yes old enough, worked in plenty of situations where it was necessary.

One important part of a productive workplace is the right amount of leaders and followers. A lot of companies hire too many go getters and they end up with a bottleneck at the top.

Most go getters are either good communicators or good politicians they are almost never good workers.

Its all semantics isn't it, plodders don't like go getters.

No lots of people do the job well but don't do sell themself well while other sell themself very well without actually doing much. It is a solid trend in most businesses.

I knew one guy who would start working politically at his next job up the ladder as soon as he moved into his current position, He never actually did the job he was being paid to do. It worked for him Management thought he was terrific everyone else knew he was doing nothing.

Doesn't sound like a productive workplace.

I have found the exact same sort of thing happening in every business I ever worked in private or public.

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Reply #99 - Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:23pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:59am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:53am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:36am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

I’m guessing you’re old enough to understand something of the status dynamics between uber-alpha men.

Yes old enough, worked in plenty of situations where it was necessary.

One important part of a productive workplace is the right amount of leaders and followers. A lot of companies hire too many go getters and they end up with a bottleneck at the top.

Most go getters are either good communicators or good politicians they are almost never good workers.

Its all semantics isn't it, plodders don't like go getters.

Good efficient workers are different from plodders. People who rely on communication skills and politics are often embraced by management but they are also the least likely to do the job well. You run into this business dynamic a lot.

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Reply #100 - Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:24pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:18pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:09pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:59am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:53am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:36am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

I’m guessing you’re old enough to understand something of the status dynamics between uber-alpha men.

Yes old enough, worked in plenty of situations where it was necessary.

One important part of a productive workplace is the right amount of leaders and followers. A lot of companies hire too many go getters and they end up with a bottleneck at the top.

Most go getters are either good communicators or good politicians they are almost never good workers.

Its all semantics isn't it, plodders don't like go getters.

No lots of people do the job well but don't do sell themself well while other sell themself very well without actually doing much. It is a solid trend in most businesses.

I knew one guy who would start working politically at his next job up the ladder as soon as he moved into his current position, He never actually did the job he was being paid to do. It worked for him Management thought he was terrific everyone else knew he was doing nothing.

Doesn't sound like a productive workplace.

I have found the exact same sort of thing happening in every business I ever worked in private or public.

You would never get away with it anywhere I worked,

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Reply #101 - Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:42pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:18pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:09pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:59am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:53am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:36am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

I’m guessing you’re old enough to understand something of the status dynamics between uber-alpha men.

Yes old enough, worked in plenty of situations where it was necessary.

One important part of a productive workplace is the right amount of leaders and followers. A lot of companies hire too many go getters and they end up with a bottleneck at the top.

Most go getters are either good communicators or good politicians they are almost never good workers.

Its all semantics isn't it, plodders don't like go getters.

No lots of people do the job well but don't do sell themself well while other sell themself very well without actually doing much. It is a solid trend in most businesses.

I knew one guy who would start working politically at his next job up the ladder as soon as he moved into his current position, He never actually did the job he was being paid to do. It worked for him Management thought he was terrific everyone else knew he was doing nothing.

Doesn't sound like a productive workplace.

I have found the exact same sort of thing happening in every business I ever worked in private or public.

You would never get away with it anywhere I worked,

Yes stick with very small businesses.

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Reply #102 - Jan 20^th, 2025 at 4:52pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:18pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 12:09pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:59am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:53am:

Leroy wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 11:36am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

I’m guessing you’re old enough to understand something of the status dynamics between uber-alpha men.

Yes old enough, worked in plenty of situations where it was necessary.

One important part of a productive workplace is the right amount of leaders and followers. A lot of companies hire too many go getters and they end up with a bottleneck at the top.

Most go getters are either good communicators or good politicians they are almost never good workers.

Its all semantics isn't it, plodders don't like go getters.

No lots of people do the job well but don't do sell themself well while other sell themself very well without actually doing much. It is a solid trend in most businesses.

I knew one guy who would start working politically at his next job up the ladder as soon as he moved into his current position, He never actually did the job he was being paid to do. It worked for him Management thought he was terrific everyone else knew he was doing nothing.

Doesn't sound like a productive workplace.

I have found the exact same sort of thing happening in every business I ever worked in private or public.

You would never get away with it anywhere I worked,

You worked - That's a surprise.

I always topped the list of jobs completed and productivity. It was never me.

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Reply #103 - Jan 21^st, 2025 at 2:18pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 16^th, 2025 at 10:11pm:

[The US has] a presidency that [the founders] thought could be contained, yet who can rule by decree... so long as his decrees are respected and obeyed.

And so the rule by decree begins, including a decree to empower appointed government officials to ensure that decrees are acted upon immediately.

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