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Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute
Reply #705 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 2:54pm

KangAnon wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 2:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 2:33pm:

KangAnon wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

You started it with the mention of not being allowed 100m from a school. The general reason for such a restriction within the is sex offences. You're claiming that's not what you were insinuating, I'll just have to take your word for it.

But you still made that comment.

You see how that works.

Musk says his intention was not to do a Nazi Salute. We have to take his word for this.

But he still made the gesture which is identical to a Nazi Salute. You need to be told it wasn't to know that it wasn't.

He still did a Nazi Salute, even if the meaning was different.

It's just like the Swastika. It can be used in the context of Buddhism, but it's still a Swastika.

Must was giving his heart to us, but he did so via a Nazi Salute. It may not have been his intention, but it's exactly what he DID.

Now you can have another emotional meltdown, you can continue the name-calling and abhorrent insinuations, or you can just accept the truth.

The choice is yours.

In the context of this discussion, being restricted from a school area over something related to Nazism is reasonable... and your asking me to articulate my intentionality (finally) - after first imposing intentionality on me - was the right thing to do.

And, yes, you have to take my word for it.

But, in doing so, I don't accept that the implication of paedophilia still stands regardless.

I should hope not, because, to borrow from your lexicon, only a dumbcunt would get backed into a corner and use accusations of paedophilia to try and escape given how that screams an acceptance that they can no longer proceute their position.

Yes, if they used accusations of paedophilia in the first place...

The same goes for those who would presume accusations of paedophilia, use it to establish a strawman, and then launch into a rant about being so accused, to deflect from the weakness of their argument... and only resorting to asking of the poster's intentions after the rant didn't work.

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Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute
Reply #706 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 2:55pm

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 2:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 10:21am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 9:59am:

What did the Anti-Defamation League, an organization

funded by donations from the millionaires club Roll Eyes

John Smith wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 1:47pm:

you do realise that altering others comments will get you a forum wide ban, right?

i haven't altered anything. They are his exact words.

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Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute
Reply #707 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 2:58pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 2:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 2:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 1:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 1:40pm:

So, you're saying the ADL defends anti-semitic statements and gestures where the subject has donated to the ADL?

no, I'm saying the ADL considers its donations before making public comments. You know, it's really not a difficult concept. I'm not sure why you are struggling so much with it. Perhaps you should revisit it after you take your meds?

I'm aware of what you're probably implying... I just want you to say it.

I'm not implying anything other than what I actually said. It doesn't get any more clear cut.
Does it make it hurt less if you attribute different meanings to what I said?

It got a lot more clear cut in this thread after you gave up deflecting it to 'issues' with my 'comprehension' and just stated what you intended to say explicitly... it would've taken a lot less time, too...

What were you intending to achieve with the delay? Did you want to imply an allegation against the ADL without evidence by just letting the reader 'fill in the blanks'?

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13219 Gender:	Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute Reply #708 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 2:58pm .
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Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute
Reply #709 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 3:23pm

KangAnon wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 2:24pm:

Musk says his intention was not to do a Nazi Salute. We have to take his word for this.

But he still made the gesture which is identical to a Nazi Salute. You need to be told it wasn't to know that it wasn't.

He still did a Nazi Salute, even if the meaning was different.

It's just like the Swastika. It can be used in the context of Buddhism, but it's still a Swastika.

Musk was giving his heart to us, but he did so via a Nazi Salute. It may not have been his intention, but it's exactly what he DID.

Just as an aside, the German word you're looking for in the context of Nazis is Hakenkreuz, not Swastika - that is a Sanskrit word for a similar, not the same, symbol. Google both symbols.

The angle of the Hakenkreuz, in Nazi symbolism, denoted progress forward.

Something else to mull over... the number of human gestures possible or practical is extremely limited... The raised arm(s), raised fist(s), or raised arm(s) with finger gestures are about all we have to signal triumph, victory, elation or authority.

They have been used for thousands of years and possibly were used by non-sapiens humans as well... who knows, maybe chimps raising their arms after battle indicates the gestures have been with primates for millions of years...

The idea that one gesture will forever be unusable to all humanity is not only ridiculous, it's not even true across most of Asia and Africa today.

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Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute
Reply #710 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 3:27pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 10:21am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 9:59am:

What did the Anti-Defamation League, an organization

funded by donations from the millionaires club Roll Eyes

John Smith wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 1:47pm:

you do realise that altering others comments will get you a forum wide ban, right?

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Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute
Reply #711 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 3:34pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 2:58pm:

It got a lot more clear cut in this thread after you gave up deflecting it to 'issues' with my 'comprehension' and just stated what you intended to say explicitly... it would've taken a lot less time, too...

I said what I intended to say with my very first sentence you dumbarse .. nothing in my statement changed. Cheesy

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 49540 Gender:	Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute Reply #712 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 3:36pm This is funny. Frank and Meister Eckhart are absolutely killing the Trolls. 😆
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Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute
Reply #713 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 3:40pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 3:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 2:58pm:

It got a lot more clear cut in this thread after you gave up deflecting it to 'issues' with my 'comprehension' and just stated what you intended to say explicitly... it would've taken a lot less time, too...

I said what I intended to say with my very first sentence you dumbarse .. nothing in my statement changed. Cheesy

So you were just commenting in passing that the ADL is funded by donations from the millionaires club with no implied allegations of their doing favours for the big donor antisemites, then?

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Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute
Reply #714 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 3:46pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 3:36pm:

This is funny. Frank and Meister Eckhart are absolutely killing the Trolls. 😆

I don't think they're trolls insofar as they generally appear to believe what they're writing... they just haven't ever had to justify their presumptions and so, I believe, they're genuinely shocked when they're questioned... They don't know where the shot came from.

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KangAnon Gold Member Offline The Sandstorm is coming 🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵 Posts: 17898 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute Reply #715 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 4:15pm He did a Nazi Salute... You saw the video. Are you trying to tell me if you were playing charades and someone made that gesture you'd think it was something else? And still, no takers for anyone else to post themselves doing the same gesture online...
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Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute
Reply #716 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 4:18pm

KangAnon wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 4:15pm:

He did a Nazi Salute... You saw the video.

Are you trying to tell me if you were playing charades and someone made that gesture you'd think it was something else?

And still, no takers for anyone else to post themselves doing the same gesture online...

Not one.

All a bunch of (Nazi-worshipping) cowards.

I mean, I thought Bobbi would at least give it a go, seeing as he has no shame about his white supremacist agenda.

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Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute
Reply #717 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 4:22pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 3:40pm:

So you were just commenting in passing that the ADL is funded by donations from the millionaires club with no implied allegations of their doing favours for the big donor antisemites, then?

I didn't mention anything about anyone doing favours for antisemites. Your conclusions are you own. Perhaps you should own them instead of pretending others said them.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75137 Gender:	Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute Reply #718 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 4:25pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 3:46pm: hey just haven't ever had to justify their presumptions and so, I believe, they're genuinely shocked when they're questioned.. the only thing i'm shocked at is just how desperate you are to pretend musks' sieg heil salute was anything but
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Re: Elon Musk Gives Nazi Salute
Reply #719 - Jan 30^th, 2025 at 4:29pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 4:25pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 30^th, 2025 at 3:46pm:

hey just haven't ever had to justify their presumptions and so, I believe, they're genuinely shocked when they're questioned..

the only thing i'm shocked at is just how desperate you are to pretend musks' sieg heil salute was anything but Cheesy

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