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Re: Department of Government Efficiency
Reply #135 - Feb 17th, 2025 at 4:55pm
 
Leroy wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 3:04pm:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 12:22pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 7:51am:
There is a hate campaign against Musk by the media, it is shameful how they have maligned him. He has nothing but good intentions and has not done one thing wrong but it would seem as if he is public enemy number one. This is also why things have to change.


Musk is breaking the law. 

Do you support criminals, do you have a problem condemning ciminals?.


My belief is that Trump has the power and the mandate from the people to do what he is doing, he is not breaking the law and I formed that opinion from listening to several different legal discussions on the subject.

You have not shown me anything that sways my opinion about this matter, so I won't be condemning anyone just because you demand it. You can keep thinking Musk is breaking the law but I'm not.


That's right, Leroy - you're not thinking.

All the ways Elon Musk is breaking the law, explained by a law professor

David Super, an administrative law professor at Georgetown Law School, recently told the Washington Post that so many of Musk’s moves were “so wildly illegal” that he seemed to be “playing a quantity game, and assuming the system can’t react to all this illegality at once.”


David A. Super’s research focuses on Administrative Law, Constitutional Law, Legislation (including the federal budget), Local Government Law, and Public Welfare Law. He teaches these subjects as well as Civil Procedure, Contracts, Evidence, Property, and Torts. In addition to Georgetown, he has also taught law at Columbia, Harvard, Howard, Maryland, Penn, Washington & Lee, and Yale. Prior to entering the legal academy, he served for several years as the general counsel for the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities and worked for the National Health Law Program and Community Legal Services in Philadelphia. He also was a recipient of the Frank F. Flegal Excellence in Teaching Award in 2018.

Leroy's research focuses on whatever Trump & Musk tell him.
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Re: Department of Government Efficiency
Reply #136 - Feb 17th, 2025 at 9:40pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 3:17pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 3:04pm:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 12:22pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 7:51am:
There is a hate campaign against Musk by the media, it is shameful how they have maligned him. He has nothing but good intentions and has not done one thing wrong but it would seem as if he is public enemy number one. This is also why things have to change.


Musk is breaking the law. 

Do you support criminals, do you have a problem condemning ciminals?.


My belief is that Trump has the power and the mandate from the people to do what he is doing, he is not breaking the law and I formed that opinion from listening to several different legal discussions on the subject.

You have not shown me anything that sways my opinion about this matter, so I won't be condemning anyone just because you demand it. You can keep thinking Musk is breaking the law but I'm not.



good post


I see. So I believe A and nothing can convince me otherwise, is it?

Good show. What does Paretto have to say about such seamless rhetoric, dear?

A "win-win", eh?

Did they have win-wins back then?
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Re: Department of Government Efficiency
Reply #137 - Feb 17th, 2025 at 9:49pm
 
Leroy wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 3:04pm:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 12:22pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 7:51am:
There is a hate campaign against Musk by the media, it is shameful how they have maligned him. He has nothing but good intentions and has not done one thing wrong but it would seem as if he is public enemy number one. This is also why things have to change.


Musk is breaking the law. 

Do you support criminals, do you have a problem condemning ciminals?.


My belief is that Trump has the power and the mandate from the people to do what he is doing, he is not breaking the law and I formed that opinion from listening to several different legal discussions on the subject.

You have not shown me anything that sways my opinion about this matter, so I won't be condemning anyone just because you demand it. You can keep thinking Musk is breaking the law but I'm not.


The law is black and white.  Musk and DOGE do not have the authority to supersede the law and the constitution.  Trump doesn't have the power to override them by Executive Order.

Your TDS-fuelled beliefs won't change that.  I'm sorry that the truth hasn't been enough to convince you.

That said, you may ultimately be proven right as Trump has the numbers in the Supreme Court, but if they did uphold what Trump is doing, they'd be siding with him against the law, the Constitution and the country.

But that's how the system works.

Just as right now, without that ruling, what Trump is doing, what he is directing Musk and DOGE to do, is breaking the law and in some cases unconstitutional.

A tweet or you unfounded beliefs and terminal case of TDS doesn't change that.
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Re: Department of Government Efficiency
Reply #138 - Feb 17th, 2025 at 10:17pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 9:49pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 3:04pm:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 12:22pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 7:51am:
There is a hate campaign against Musk by the media, it is shameful how they have maligned him. He has nothing but good intentions and has not done one thing wrong but it would seem as if he is public enemy number one. This is also why things have to change.


Musk is breaking the law. 

Do you support criminals, do you have a problem condemning ciminals?.


My belief is that Trump has the power and the mandate from the people to do what he is doing, he is not breaking the law and I formed that opinion from listening to several different legal discussions on the subject.

You have not shown me anything that sways my opinion about this matter, so I won't be condemning anyone just because you demand it. You can keep thinking Musk is breaking the law but I'm not.


The law is black and white.  Musk and DOGE do not have the authority to supersede the law and the constitution.  Trump doesn't have the power to override them by Executive Order.

Your TDS-fuelled beliefs won't change that.  I'm sorry that the truth hasn't been enough to convince you.

That said, you may ultimately be proven right as Trump has the numbers in the Supreme Court, but if they did uphold what Trump is doing, they'd be siding with him against the law, the Constitution and the country.

But that's how the system works.

Just as right now, without that ruling, what Trump is doing, what he is directing Musk and DOGE to do, is breaking the law and in some cases unconstitutional.

A tweet or you unfounded beliefs and terminal case of TDS doesn't change that.


Yes, Sad, but Leroy doesn't believe it and you can't convince him otherwise.

That means he wins, ja?

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Re: Department of Government Efficiency
Reply #139 - Feb 17th, 2025 at 10:29pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 9:49pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 3:04pm:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 12:22pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 7:51am:
There is a hate campaign against Musk by the media, it is shameful how they have maligned him. He has nothing but good intentions and has not done one thing wrong but it would seem as if he is public enemy number one. This is also why things have to change.


Musk is breaking the law. 

Do you support criminals, do you have a problem condemning ciminals?.


My belief is that Trump has the power and the mandate from the people to do what he is doing, he is not breaking the law and I formed that opinion from listening to several different legal discussions on the subject.

You have not shown me anything that sways my opinion about this matter, so I won't be condemning anyone just because you demand it. You can keep thinking Musk is breaking the law but I'm not.


The law is black and white.  Musk and DOGE do not have the authority to supersede the law and the constitution.  Trump doesn't have the power to override them by Executive Order.

Your TDS-fuelled beliefs won't change that.  I'm sorry that the truth hasn't been enough to convince you.

That said, you may ultimately be proven right as Trump has the numbers in the Supreme Court, but if they did uphold what Trump is doing, they'd be siding with him against the law, the Constitution and the country.

But that's how the system works.

Just as right now, without that ruling, what Trump is doing, what he is directing Musk and DOGE to do, is breaking the law and in some cases unconstitutional.

A tweet or you unfounded beliefs and terminal case of TDS doesn't change that.


Time will tell, but by then you will be complaining about something else Trump has done. Can you remember the last time you had a day you didn't complain about Trump.

Oh yeah the tweet, just so you know I have never been on twitter or X, I don't read them unless its in another source like Ytube or news article. I wouldn't even know how to find a tweet.
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Re: Department of Government Efficiency
Reply #140 - Feb 17th, 2025 at 10:39pm
 
Leroy wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 10:29pm:
Time will tell, but by then you will be complaining about something else Trump has done. Can you remember the last time you had a day you didn't complain about Trump.


That's Trump's plan.  Overwhelm the people with so much craziness that they can't keep track.

And it's working.

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Oh yeah the tweet, just so you know I have never been on twitter or X, I don't read them unless its in another source like Ytube or news article. I wouldn't even know how to find a tweet.


I don't really care where you get your misinformation.
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Re: Department of Government Efficiency
Reply #141 - Feb 17th, 2025 at 10:49pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 10:39pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 10:29pm:
Time will tell, but by then you will be complaining about something else Trump has done. Can you remember the last time you had a day you didn't complain about Trump.


That's Trump's plan.  Overwhelm the people with so much craziness that they can't keep track.

And it's working.

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Oh yeah the tweet, just so you know I have never been on twitter or X, I don't read them unless its in another source like Ytube or news article. I wouldn't even know how to find a tweet.


I don't really care where you get your misinformation.


You use misinformation all the time, how do you know what Trump's plan is, did you find out on some show on MSNBC.

How could you possibly Know what Trump's plan is, you are making up stuff and trying to pass it off as facts.

You will never tell us how you found out what Trump's plan is because it is impossible for you to know but here you are telling everyone that you do know.
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Reply #142 - Feb 17th, 2025 at 10:55pm
 
He's right, Sad. How could you possibly know what the big fella's cunning plan is?

It's not like he announced it or anything.

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Re: Department of Government Efficiency
Reply #143 - Feb 18th, 2025 at 10:29am
 
Leroy wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 10:49pm:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 10:39pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 10:29pm:
Time will tell, but by then you will be complaining about something else Trump has done. Can you remember the last time you had a day you didn't complain about Trump.


That's Trump's plan.  Overwhelm the people with so much craziness that they can't keep track.

And it's working.

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Oh yeah the tweet, just so you know I have never been on twitter or X, I don't read them unless its in another source like Ytube or news article. I wouldn't even know how to find a tweet.


I don't really care where you get your misinformation.


You use misinformation all the time, how do you know what Trump's plan is, did you find out on some show on MSNBC.


Trump is employing the "Flood the zone" strategy.  He did it in his first term under Steve Bannon and he's doing it again.  We can see it with our own eyes, but if you need a link to tell you about it you can go here.

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Trump carries out his 'flood the zone' strategy, creating a week of whiplash

February 7, 20255:00 AM ET

This has been a wild week, with way more news coming out of the new administration than anyone can follow.

And that's likely by design.

"The opposition party is the media," Steve Bannon, who helped run Trump's 2016 campaign, told PBS Frontline five years ago. "And the media can only — because they're dumb and they're lazy — they can only focus on one thing at a time."

Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk at President Trump's inauguration ceremony on Jan. 20. Trump has tasked Musk with leading a team focused on cutting costs in the government.
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Elon Musk is barreling into government with DOGE, raising unusual legal questions
So the solution, per Bannon? Overwhelm them.

"All we have to do is flood the zone," he said. "Every day we hit them with three things. They'll bite on one, and we'll get all of our stuff done, bang, bang, bang. These guys will never — will never be able to recover. But we've got to start with muzzle velocity."

The first three weeks of the Trump presidency have lived up to that idea, often with far more than three things happening each day. There have been dozens of executive orders, an attempted remaking of the federal government led by Elon Musk, potentially consequential Cabinet appointees confirmed, some promised tariffs put in place (and others delayed), deportations, far-reaching and controversial assertions and a new version of America put forward on the world stage.


So when I say,

KangAnon wrote on Feb 17th, 2025 at 10:39pm:
That's Trump's plan.  Overwhelm the people with so much craziness that they can't keep track.


This is what I mean.  It's been Trump's plan all along and he's simply executing it.

So when you say those critical of Trump for breaking the law will be complaining about something else once the courts finally catch up with him, I'm saying you're probably right, BUT, that is entirely by design.

It is his plan.  Keep overwhelming the people with so much bullshit that it's hard to keep track and all of a sudden people are moving onto each new scandal and he can dodge accountability for those that have lost the people's attention.

But it doesn't change what he and President Musk are doing is unlawful and unconstitutional.

The only way they can counter that is to flood the zone, much like many like you on here will repost the same meme over and over again to burry posts they don't like, but on a nation wide scale.

It's troll behaviour, but instead of covering up a mistake or a post proving them wrong on an obscure political forum, it's to cover up their actions that are unlawful and unconstitutional.

You can try to dismiss it as misinformation, but it's right there in black and white.  Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it untrue.  I know you've been conditioned to think that way because of TDS, but it's not how it works in the real world.
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Reply #144 - Feb 18th, 2025 at 10:49am
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 10:29am:
"The opposition party is the media," Steve Bannon, who helped run Trump's 2016 campaign, told PBS Frontline five years ago. "And the media can only — because they're dumb and they're lazy — they can only focus on one thing at a time."


So its the opinion of Domenico Montanaro who referring to a 5 year old interview with Steve Bannon.

This is a story without any knowledge of what Trumps plan is and no reference to what Trump plans.

All you have is a hodge podge of snippets that you have loosely cobbled together to create a version you want.
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Reply #145 - Feb 18th, 2025 at 11:55am
 
Leroy wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 10:49am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 10:29am:
"The opposition party is the media," Steve Bannon, who helped run Trump's 2016 campaign, told PBS Frontline five years ago. "And the media can only — because they're dumb and they're lazy — they can only focus on one thing at a time."


So its the opinion of Domenico Montanaro who referring to a 5 year old interview with Steve Bannon.

This is a story without any knowledge of what Trumps plan is and no reference to what Trump plans.

All you have is a hodge podge of snippets that you have loosely cobbled together to create a version you want.


Trump's actions and the outcome of them are 100% aligned with strategy.

You can't wish this away like everything else you don't like.
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Reply #146 - Feb 18th, 2025 at 12:07pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 11:55am:
Leroy wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 10:49am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 10:29am:
"The opposition party is the media," Steve Bannon, who helped run Trump's 2016 campaign, told PBS Frontline five years ago. "And the media can only — because they're dumb and they're lazy — they can only focus on one thing at a time."


So its the opinion of Domenico Montanaro who referring to a 5 year old interview with Steve Bannon.

This is a story without any knowledge of what Trumps plan is and no reference to what Trump plans.

All you have is a hodge podge of snippets that you have loosely cobbled together to create a version you want.


Trump's actions and the outcome of them are 100% aligned with strategy.

You can't wish this away like everything else you don't like.


This has to be the funniest of all these fake news stories.

Trump is to old and frail but he is going so fast we can't keep up with him. Trump is to quick for the journalists, well maybe if they did their jobs instead of making up stories they would be able to keep up.

But yeah woe is the media, Trump is acting to fast and they can't keep up.
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Reply #147 - Feb 18th, 2025 at 12:29pm
 
Leroy wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 12:07pm:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 11:55am:
Leroy wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 10:49am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 10:29am:
"The opposition party is the media," Steve Bannon, who helped run Trump's 2016 campaign, told PBS Frontline five years ago. "And the media can only — because they're dumb and they're lazy — they can only focus on one thing at a time."


So its the opinion of Domenico Montanaro who referring to a 5 year old interview with Steve Bannon.

This is a story without any knowledge of what Trumps plan is and no reference to what Trump plans.

All you have is a hodge podge of snippets that you have loosely cobbled together to create a version you want.


Trump's actions and the outcome of them are 100% aligned with strategy.

You can't wish this away like everything else you don't like.


This has to be the funniest of all these fake news stories.


So it's fake, yet you go on to prove it's true,

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Trump is to old and frail but he is going so fast we can't keep up with him. Trump is to quick for the journalists, well maybe if they did their jobs instead of making up stories they would be able to keep up.

But yeah woe is the media, Trump is acting to fast and they can't keep up.


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Reply #148 - Feb 18th, 2025 at 12:36pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 12:29pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 12:07pm:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 11:55am:
Leroy wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 10:49am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 10:29am:
"The opposition party is the media," Steve Bannon, who helped run Trump's 2016 campaign, told PBS Frontline five years ago. "And the media can only — because they're dumb and they're lazy — they can only focus on one thing at a time."


So its the opinion of Domenico Montanaro who referring to a 5 year old interview with Steve Bannon.

This is a story without any knowledge of what Trumps plan is and no reference to what Trump plans.

All you have is a hodge podge of snippets that you have loosely cobbled together to create a version you want.


Trump's actions and the outcome of them are 100% aligned with strategy.

You can't wish this away like everything else you don't like.


This has to be the funniest of all these fake news stories.


So it's fake, yet you go on to prove it's true,

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Trump is to old and frail but he is going so fast we can't keep up with him. Trump is to quick for the journalists, well maybe if they did their jobs instead of making up stories they would be able to keep up.

But yeah woe is the media, Trump is acting to fast and they can't keep up.


https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-17-2024/HlhDs1.gif


Is it true Sad, is it true that Trump is to fast for slow moving journalists, is it true that they think he old and frail yet he is running rings around them.
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Reply #149 - Feb 18th, 2025 at 12:41pm
 
Leroy wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 12:36pm:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 12:29pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 12:07pm:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 11:55am:
Leroy wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 10:49am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 18th, 2025 at 10:29am:
"The opposition party is the media," Steve Bannon, who helped run Trump's 2016 campaign, told PBS Frontline five years ago. "And the media can only — because they're dumb and they're lazy — they can only focus on one thing at a time."


So its the opinion of Domenico Montanaro who referring to a 5 year old interview with Steve Bannon.

This is a story without any knowledge of what Trumps plan is and no reference to what Trump plans.

All you have is a hodge podge of snippets that you have loosely cobbled together to create a version you want.


Trump's actions and the outcome of them are 100% aligned with strategy.

You can't wish this away like everything else you don't like.


This has to be the funniest of all these fake news stories.


So it's fake, yet you go on to prove it's true,

Quote:
Trump is to old and frail but he is going so fast we can't keep up with him. Trump is to quick for the journalists, well maybe if they did their jobs instead of making up stories they would be able to keep up.

But yeah woe is the media, Trump is acting to fast and they can't keep up.


https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-17-2024/HlhDs1.gif


Is it true Sad, is it true that Trump is to fast for slow moving journalists, is it true that they think he old and frail yet he is running rings around them.


All Trump is doing is signing executive orders that other people within his administration are creating for him.

He doesn't even know what he's signing and has to ask them.

You can credit it to him if you like, but either way, it is all part of the Flood the Zone strategy.

Is he even running the country, or is it behind left to the people who are, some say coincidentally, using Project 2025 as their playbook?
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