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First Nuclear Power Plant Has Official Start Date
Feb 1st, 2025 at 6:01am
 
Australia's first nuclear power plant has an official start date - so will you give it the green light?

29 January 2025
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The Coalition has vowed to begin building nuclear power plants on 'day one' if they are elected.   Sad

Peter Dutton has long promised to build seven nuclear reactors across Australia at an estimated cost of over $300 billion if he can oust Labor from power.

The Opposition Leader has claimed the power plants will work alongside renewables to stop blackouts and reduce electricity bills.

But critics have warned the cost of converting to nuclear will blow out to more than double at $600 billion, ultimately slugging Aussie households with higher bills.   Sad

But Nationals leader David Littleproud has doubled down on the Coalition's commitment to begin building power plants immediately if elected.

'We'll start building the first nuclear power plant, the very first day after a coalition government's elected,' Mr Littleproud told Sky News.

'We'll get on with the job. The time for talks are over.

'We have to get on with this so that we can have AI, we can have fast rail, we can have smelters in this country, and one where regional Australia has a future, not littered with transmission lines and solar panels and wind turbines.'

Nationals leader David Littleproud (pictured) has doubled down on the Coalition's commitment to begin building power plants immediately if elected





Mr Littleproud, who would be Deputy Prime Minister if the Coalition win this year's federal election, which must be held by May 17, said that their position was that 'we should not put all our energy eggs in one basket'.

'We're all for renewables, but we want to balance and get that balance right,' he said.

'We should transition some of those coal-fired power stations across to nuclear power plants, but we'll need a lot of gas in the short term.'

The Nationals leader said it was 'insanity' to rely solely on renewables because transmission lines, solar panels and wind turbines would impact food security.

'We've got sovereignty of all our resources, we should use all of our resources, not just some,' he added.

Mr Littleproud has previously sought to reassure voters about the safety of the proposed nuclear power plants. 

'This is safe technology ... we're not talking about 1950s technology from Russia nor letting the Russians run it,' he told reporters last year.

'We're not putting them where a tsunami is going to take place.'



Critics have warned the cost of converting to nuclear will blow out to more than double at $600 billion, ultimately slugging Aussie households with higher bills


The latter was a reference to the Fukushima nuclear accident in Japan in 2011 where an earthquake and tsunami damaged a nuclear power plant, with the fall out resulting in 51 deaths.   Shocked

Mr Littleproud claimed that nuclear energy would provide over 30 per cent of the power to the grid.

However, the Smart Energy Council claims it will only amount to 3.7 per cent of Australia's energy mix by 2050.

Both sides of politics support a goal of net zero by 2050.

However, Labor's plan is for renewable energy to comprise 82 per cent of Australia's energy generation by 2030, rising to 98 per cent by 2040 based on solar and wind.

Whereas, the Coalition sees nuclear making up 38 per cent of Australia's electricity generation by that time, with solar and wind energy making up 49 per cent of the mix and gas, pumped hydro and storage the rest.

The Coalition's plan was modelled by Frontier Economics, which costed Labor's energy transition at $594billion, versus $331billion for the Coalition's nuclear plan - marking a difference of $263billion.



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Reply #1 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 6:51am
 
So the official start date for dangerous and expensive nuclear power, is day one of a coalition government.   Sad
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Reply #2 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 9:16am
 
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The Coalition has vowed to begin building nuclear power plants on 'day one' if they are elected.


Of course. Better start building them before the people find out what it is really going to cost.
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Reply #3 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 9:44am
 
Indeed - I expect the cost to blow out considerably - it always does.

Interesting to see that Littleproud (I nearly wrote Littleprod - damn)  is encompassing food security, preservation of our farming lands etc, as part of the deal - and that the LNP is looking at the GAIA concepts re smelters and development and fast rail etc across the nation, and specifically with regard to development of the relatively struggling remoter areas and the country areas.

Side-note:-  With the recent series of disasters in Cliffornia, home of our oranges etc, and the now growing demand for water management for all instead of some parasite 'billionaire' who employs Wetbacks anyway - it's time for Australia to re-consider its use of farm land and its marketing of local grown produce - instead of the six months in a leaky boat 'fresh produce' at the supermarkets.


Interesting - I'd like to see a Plan on the table... and I remind him that my finder's fee is only 1% ... good deal.

As for bringing down power costs to the home/small business consumer - nothing will achieve that now.  The real inflation is runaway and until costs of administering those things - via 'privatisation' and general greed - are chopped down like the dead trees they are, nothing will improve the prosperity of the common folk overall.

A Bran Nue Dae is required  in many ways - not the same old lost causes over and over of relative dopes trying to become Neo-feudal Lords and Ladies taking advantage of absurd divisions in society and incomes.
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Reply #4 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 10:16am
 
ON WHICH SUBJECT (which we weren't):-

When will Australia divest itself of the same stupid Wong implemented 'auctioning off of river water' scheme that left Cliffornia (the remnant once the big quake comes) bereft of water; cut back and finally extinguish its enslavement of its people to the mythical 'global economy' that does not pay its way and rapes economies and nations; take back its own capacity to exploit its own resources for the Common Wealth; and restore its own productive capability of good fruit and such?

When will this nation put its own people first, and stop the flush of 'politicians' dedicated to this insane 'global economy' from which they themselves derive fantastic benefits?  'flush' as in coming down the tubes!

When will this nation become Of The People, BY the People, and FOR the People first and foremost?

Now think on the range of issues involved in this taking back the asylum.

This might help - though I'm wary of deep academics:-

https://www.unisa.edu.au/unisanews/2019/may/story9/

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Reply #5 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 10:18am
 
Obviously the claim is false. If he meant they would start the process from day one, then yes, that is possible.

There needs to be changes to the legislation to revoke nuclear bans in the states concerned.

If only Ziggy had been better at pushing nuclear energy decades ago - we might have been further along the nuclear energy path.

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Reply #6 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 11:19am
 
whiteknight wrote on Feb 1st, 2025 at 6:01am:
Australia's first nuclear power plant has an official start date - so will you give it the green light?

29 January 2025
Daily Mail
The Coalition has vowed to begin building nuclear power plants on 'day one' if they are elected.   Sad

Peter Dutton has long promised to build seven nuclear reactors across Australia at an estimated cost of over $300 billion if he can oust Labor from power.

The Opposition Leader has claimed the power plants will work alongside renewables to stop blackouts and reduce electricity bills.

But critics have warned the cost of converting to nuclear will blow out to more than double at $600 billion, ultimately slugging Aussie households with higher bills.   Sad

But Nationals leader David Littleproud has doubled down on the Coalition's commitment to begin building power plants immediately if elected.

'We'll start building the first nuclear power plant, the very first day after a coalition government's elected,' Mr Littleproud told Sky News.

'We'll get on with the job. The time for talks are over.

'We have to get on with this so that we can have AI, we can have fast rail, we can have smelters in this country, and one where regional Australia has a future, not littered with transmission lines and solar panels and wind turbines.'

Nationals leader David Littleproud (pictured) has doubled down on the Coalition's commitment to begin building power plants immediately if elected





Mr Littleproud, who would be Deputy Prime Minister if the Coalition win this year's federal election, which must be held by May 17, said that their position was that 'we should not put all our energy eggs in one basket'.

'We're all for renewables, but we want to balance and get that balance right,' he said.

'We should transition some of those coal-fired power stations across to nuclear power plants, but we'll need a lot of gas in the short term.'

The Nationals leader said it was 'insanity' to rely solely on renewables because transmission lines, solar panels and wind turbines would impact food security.

'We've got sovereignty of all our resources, we should use all of our resources, not just some,' he added.

Mr Littleproud has previously sought to reassure voters about the safety of the proposed nuclear power plants. 

'This is safe technology ... we're not talking about 1950s technology from Russia nor letting the Russians run it,' he told reporters last year.

'We're not putting them where a tsunami is going to take place.'



Critics have warned the cost of converting to nuclear will blow out to more than double at $600 billion, ultimately slugging Aussie households with higher bills


The latter was a reference to the Fukushima nuclear accident in Japan in 2011 where an earthquake and tsunami damaged a nuclear power plant, with the fall out resulting in 51 deaths.   Shocked

Mr Littleproud claimed that nuclear energy would provide over 30 per cent of the power to the grid.

However, the Smart Energy Council claims it will only amount to 3.7 per cent of Australia's energy mix by 2050.

Both sides of politics support a goal of net zero by 2050.

However, Labor's plan is for renewable energy to comprise 82 per cent of Australia's energy generation by 2030, rising to 98 per cent by 2040 based on solar and wind.

Whereas, the Coalition sees nuclear making up 38 per cent of Australia's electricity generation by that time, with solar and wind energy making up 49 per cent of the mix and gas, pumped hydro and storage the rest.

The Coalition's plan was modelled by Frontier Economics, which costed Labor's energy transition at $594billion, versus $331billion for the Coalition's nuclear plan - marking a difference of $263billion.





Anyone who honestly believes that we can have a stable power grid comprised of 82% renewables needs their head read because even now we have less than that in terms of renewables and still have blackouts and brownouts. Renewables cannot replace coal or nuclear for baseload power generation. It just can't and it's not something that is debatable. Renewables can supplement baseload power generation, but it just can't replace it. End of story.
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Reply #7 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 11:26am
 
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The Coalition's plan was modelled by Frontier Economics, which costed Labor's energy transition at $594billion, versus $331billion for the Coalition's nuclear plan - marking a difference of $263billion.


The coalition's plan costing appears to have pulled the (very low) cost of nuclear out of thin air, and assumes delayed electrification of a number of sectors, including transport. That is, they are assuming people won't start buying electric cars for a long time into the future. Perhaps the LNP told frontier economics what to assume for the cost of nuclear.

Garbage in, garbage out.

The LNP plan also results in far higher GHG emissions.
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Reply #8 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 11:37am
 
A step on the road to safe clean and reliable power that we should have taken 60 years ago. But better late than never.  Smiley
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 1st, 2025 at 11:19am:
and still have blackouts and brownouts.



we've been having blackouts and brownouts since long before you even knew what the word renewables meant ... suddenly it's all renewables fault?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #10 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 7:32pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2025 at 1:24pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 1st, 2025 at 11:19am:
and still have blackouts and brownouts.



we've been having blackouts and brownouts since long before you even knew what the word renewables meant ... suddenly it's all renewables fault?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Not to the same extent they are occurring now. This has never been a thing until the obsession with so called renewables.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-31/energex-ergon-peaksmart-air-con-cuts-duri...
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Reply #11 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 8:46pm
 
It's all the Greens, diversity, ALP, Lefties and renewables fault.
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Reply #12 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 9:39pm
 
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What a ridiculous thing to say ?

What Potato head is going out into the field with a shovel ? They don't even have a sensible plan. They cannot possibly start building inside 10 years. Their isn't even an existing plant of the type they want available on the market. It doesn't exist.

Besides you wouldn't even trust these clowns make a bacon and egg sandwich.
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Reply #13 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 9:43pm
 
I am not against nuclear - Just against risky nuclear before the technology is ready and their is a workable plan for the waste.

Committing to a system that doesn't even exist on the market where the risk is unknown is not even a good joke.
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Reply #14 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 9:44pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2025 at 1:24pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 1st, 2025 at 11:19am:
and still have blackouts and brownouts.



we've been having blackouts and brownouts since long before you even knew what the word renewables meant ... suddenly it's all renewables fault?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Yes but think of the power savings when people can glow in the dark.
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