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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 8614	Re: What the heck? Trumps Tariffs… Reply #30 - Feb 3^rd, 2025 at 5:44pm Believe it or not… 4 days ago I’m cleaning out the cupboards and came across this keepsake… Was it a sign I should’ve paid attention to? Dated January 23rd 2008 And I read it thinking… gee I hope I don’t go through that! Here’s the picture of Trumpet the bear!
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Reply #31 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:42am

Mexico schmexico....

Mexico Folds: Sending Troops to Secure Border to Avoid Trump Tariffs
Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum agreed to send 10,000 troops to its northern border as one of the ways to stop a 25 percent tariff from the Trump administration temporarily. The concession comes after days of grandstanding by the Mexican president, who publicly claimed she would stand up for her country’s sovereignty.

On Monday morning, U.S. President Donald J. Trump announced that Mexico had agreed to send 10,000 military troops to its northern border to stop illegal immigration and fentanyl smuggling. The move allowed Mexico to avoid new tariffs for one month. During that month, officials from both countries would work on a new “deal” between the two countries.

A new deal, eh??

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Reply #32 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 6:51am

Hold your nerve and understand whats going on…

Trump is doing everything he said that he was going to do BEFORE the election…

The US back in the late 1800 and early 1900 NEVER paid income tax…

The government got all of their money from Tariffs…

These pissant countries trying to be tough will crumble like a deck of cards….

50% of Canada’s businesses are already talking about shifting to the US Grin

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13196 Gender:	Re: What the heck? Trumps Tariffs… Reply #33 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 7:36am SerialBrain9 wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 6:51am: The US back in the late 1800 and early 1900 NEVER paid income tax… The government got all of their money from Tariffs… Righto... What's next? Horses, candles and Jim Crow?
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Reply #34 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 8:38am

Frank wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:42am:

Mexico schmexico....

Mexico Folds: Sending Troops to Secure Border to Avoid Trump Tariffs
Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum agreed to send 10,000 troops to its northern border as one of the ways to stop a 25 percent tariff from the Trump administration temporarily. The concession comes after days of grandstanding by the Mexican president, who publicly claimed she would stand up for her country’s sovereignty.

On Monday morning, U.S. President Donald J. Trump announced that Mexico had agreed to send 10,000 military troops to its northern border to stop illegal immigration and fentanyl smuggling. The move allowed Mexico to avoid new tariffs for one month. During that month, officials from both countries would work on a new “deal” between the two countries.

A new deal, eh??

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Canada has now caved in too.

Trudeau will also reinforce the border to stop the flow of illegal drugs into America.

Trump’s tariffs are an absolute stroke of GENIUS.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11913 Armidale Gender:	Re: What the heck? Trumps Tariffs… Reply #35 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 8:50am US Army has 955,000 troops. Canada has 22,500. Thank you Mr Canada.
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KangAnon Gold Member Offline The Sandstorm is coming 🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵 Posts: 17845 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: What the heck? Trumps Tariffs… Reply #36 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 9:34am
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Reply #37 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 9:37am

Frank wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 8:38am:

🚨TARIFF UPDATES:
Canada has now caved in too.

Trudeau will also reinforce the border to stop the flow of illegal drugs into America.

Trump’s tariffs are an absolute stroke of GENIUS.

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So, within 15 minutes, Mexico and Canada have complex plans in place to avoid tariffs, no doubt with the support of their respective legislatures.

No need to bother the US Congress and the US Supreme Court...

Reactive and kneejerk?

Yeah.... Nah!

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Reply #38 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 9:49am

Contrary to his calibrated public image, Trump does not have a stiff arm...

As Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull, no doubt told his Commonwealth peers before he told the world, (paraphrasing) 'Trump will back down if you hold your bottle and your ground'...

He was referring to the asylum-seeker deal made between Obama and Turnbull that Trump reacted angrily to in 2017 and tried to back out from.

Turnbull recounts that Trump raged at him about it being a 'dumb deal' and leant on Turnbull to try to have him agree to revoke it, pleading 'You're a businessman, you've backed out of deals before', to which Turnbull insisted, 'Not after I've signed them, I haven't'.

Trump raged on, but Turnbull refused to relent.

Ultimately, Trump acceded and honoured the deal.

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Reply #39 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:24am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 9:49am:

Contrary to his calibrated public image, Trump does not have a stiff arm...

As Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull, no doubt told his Commonwealth peers before he told the world, (paraphrasing) 'Trump will back down if you hold your bottle and your ground'...

He was referring to the asylum-seeker deal made between Obama and Turnbull that Trump reacted angrily to in 2017 and tried to back out from.

Turnbull recounts that Trump raged at him about it being a 'dumb deal' and leant on Turnbull to try to have him agree to revoke it, pleading 'You're a businessman, you've backed out of deals before', to which Turnbull insisted, 'Not after I've signed them, I haven't'.

Trump raged on, but Turnbull refused to relent.

Ultimately, Trump acceded and honoured the deal.

So if Trump doesn't have a position of power in a negotiation, he loses?

Yes, we know. That's been said from the start.

Canada and Mexico had to save the US people from their own President by making a deal.

Let that sink in.

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Reply #40 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:33am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:24am:

So if Trump doesn't have a position of power in a negotiation, he loses?

Yes, we know. That's been said from the start.

He was in a position of power with Turnbull...

Leaving aside the fact that he was a US president, no previous administration can bind a future one on any deal done, notwithstanding that Trump did not sign the deal in the first place...

Let that sink in...

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13196 Gender:	Re: What the heck? Trumps Tariffs… Reply #41 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:37am KangAnon wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:24am: Canada and Mexico had to save the US people from their own President by making a deal. Let that sink in. The deal was done even before Trump announced the tariffs, that's how Canada and Mexico came to the table in 15 minutes with the ink dry... Let that sink in...
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Reply #42 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:37am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:33am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:24am:

So if Trump doesn't have a position of power in a negotiation, he loses?

Yes, we know. That's been said from the start.

He was in a position of power with Turnbull...

Leaving aside the fact that he was a US president, no previous administration can bind a future one on any deal done, notwithstanding that Trump did not sign the deal in the first place...

Let that sink in...

And Turnbull didn't back down, so Trump did.

All you have to do is stand up to Bullies and they fold.

Candana and Mexico did the right thing to protect not only their own people from Trump's recklessness but the American people too.

They needed protecting from their own President...

Canada and Mexico should be applauded and the US people should be afraid of what Trump will use them as bargaining chips for next.

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Reply #43 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:41am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:37am:

Candana and Mexico did the right thing to protect not only their own people from Trump's recklessness but the American people too.

They needed protecting from their own President...

Canada and Mexico should be applauded and the US people should be afraid of what Trump will use them as bargaining chips for next.

Do stuntmen get applauded for staging a 'fight'?

Do actors playing Eisenhower and Churchill get applauded for successfully executing Operation Overlord in a film?

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Reply #44 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:43am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:41am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:37am:

Candana and Mexico did the right thing to protect not only their own people from Trump's recklessness but the American people too.

They needed protecting from their own President...

Canada and Mexico should be applauded and the US people should be afraid of what Trump will use them as bargaining chips for next.

Do stuntmen get applauded for staging a 'fight'?

Do actors playing Eisenhower and Churchill get applauded for successfully executing Operation Overlord in a film?

You're comparing the a movie flop to forcing the US into a recession because you didn't get your way and were too childish to back down?

TDS.

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