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Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs
Reply #30 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 4:50pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

You mean humiliating surrender by Mexico and Canada.

What surrender you moron? Canada isn't doing a single thing differently to what it was doing already. Mexcio isn't doing much different either.

Trump just got spit-roasted by Canada and Mexico, and MAGA are too dumb to even realise it.

They can't be stupid enough to think they came up with a $1.5b package in 15 mins? Everything Canada agreed to was already in the pipeline, or won't kick in until long after trump is gone (new helicopters etc).

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs
Reply #31 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:34pm

There is one problem I see.

For manufacturers - let's say Mercedes cars -

It would take years to set up a factory in the USA.
With the Chips Act Biden had to pay
$billions to get the chip companies to set
up in the USA.

It's not going to happen under Trump.
Mercedes will tell him to go jump in the lake.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 49495 Gender:	Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs Reply #32 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:39pm Mercs and BMW's are passed their use by dates.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106611 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs Reply #33 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:44pm Jasin wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:39pm: Mercs and BMW's are passed their use by dates. Lets' see if they set up factories in the USA to avoid Trump's tariffs?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139247 Gender:	Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs Reply #34 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 6:05pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:44pm: Jasin wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:39pm: Mercs and BMW's are passed their use by dates. Lets' see if they set up factories in the USA to avoid Trump's tariffs? Yes, let's
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Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs
Reply #35 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 6:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 6:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:39pm:

Mercs and BMW's are passed their use by dates.

Lets' see if they set up factories in the USA to avoid Trump's tariffs?

Yes, let's Grin

I doubt it -
how would they import all the parts they need to assemble them?
They would have to pay tariffs on those too so it wouldn't work.
It doesn't make any sense to me.

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Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs
Reply #36 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 6:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:34pm:

There is one problem I see.

For manufacturers - let's say Mercedes cars -

It would take years to set up a factory in the USA.
With the Chips Act Biden had to pay
$billions to get the chip companies to set
up in the USA.

It's not going to happen under Trump.
Mercedes will tell him to go jump in the lake.

Mercedes G class SUV starting cost $148,250 in USA
https://www.mbusa.com/en/all-vehicles

Mercedes G Class SUV starting cost $382,493 in Australia
https://www.carsales.com.au/research/mercedes-benz/g-class/

Everything is cheaper in the US compared to here even with a 10% tariff it would still be far cheaper than what we pay.

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Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs
Reply #37 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 6:28pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 6:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:34pm:

There is one problem I see.

For manufacturers - let's say Mercedes cars -

It would take years to set up a factory in the USA.
With the Chips Act Biden had to pay
$billions to get the chip companies to set
up in the USA.

It's not going to happen under Trump.
Mercedes will tell him to go jump in the lake.

Mercedes G class SUV starting cost $148,250 in USA
https://www.mbusa.com/en/all-vehicles

Mercedes G Class SUV starting cost $382,493 in Australia
https://www.carsales.com.au/research/mercedes-benz/g-class/

Everything is cheaper in the US compared to here even with a 10% tariff it would still be far cheaper than what we pay.

Wow - at an exchange rate of 0.62 it should cost A$239K here -

why so much more here?

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59215 Here Gender:	Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs Reply #38 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 7:04pm Jasin wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:39pm: Mercs and BMW's are passed their use by dates. They would struggle to make Ford and GM viable let alone competitive. Cars are a lost market. Make a ford in the USA and it would have to sell for $140K.
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Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs
Reply #39 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 7:21pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 6:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:34pm:

There is one problem I see.

For manufacturers - let's say Mercedes cars -

It would take years to set up a factory in the USA.
With the Chips Act Biden had to pay
$billions to get the chip companies to set
up in the USA.

It's not going to happen under Trump.
Mercedes will tell him to go jump in the lake.

Mercedes G class SUV starting cost $148,250 in USA
https://www.mbusa.com/en/all-vehicles

Mercedes G Class SUV starting cost $382,493 in Australia
https://www.carsales.com.au/research/mercedes-benz/g-class/

Everything is cheaper in the US compared to here even with a 10% tariff it would still be far cheaper than what we pay.

That is just scale of market they sell through low profit high volume, In Australia it is the opposite high markup on low volume. The AU Markup is commonly 700% - 800% or more.

One example I remember from years ago now was a drum kit off the shelf in the USA was around $950, the same kit with a small upgrade (better snare drum - Ludwig Supraphonic) in Australia was a bit over $7K.

Checking now we have caught up a fair bit AU $7,600 USA $4,000

The AU markup practice is the reason that Australians being able to buy online was so devistating to the AU market, we were so isolated that ripping us off was a business level sport in Australia. They could and did charge whatever they liked.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59215 Here Gender:	Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs Reply #40 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 7:29pm Canada 1 V USA 0 Mexico 1 V USA 0
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139247 Gender:	Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs Reply #41 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 8:28pm Dnarever wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 7:29pm: Canada 1 V USA 0 Mexico 1 V USA 0 Yes A very humiliating backdown by the rapist.
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Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs
Reply #42 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 9:20pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 7:21pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 6:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 5:34pm:

There is one problem I see.

For manufacturers - let's say Mercedes cars -

It would take years to set up a factory in the USA.
With the Chips Act Biden had to pay
$billions to get the chip companies to set
up in the USA.

It's not going to happen under Trump.
Mercedes will tell him to go jump in the lake.

Mercedes G class SUV starting cost $148,250 in USA
https://www.mbusa.com/en/all-vehicles

Mercedes G Class SUV starting cost $382,493 in Australia
https://www.carsales.com.au/research/mercedes-benz/g-class/

Everything is cheaper in the US compared to here even with a 10% tariff it would still be far cheaper than what we pay.

That is just scale of market they sell through low profit high volume, In Australia it is the opposite high markup on low volume. The AU Markup is commonly 700% - 800% or more.

One example I remember from years ago now was a drum kit off the shelf in the USA was around $950, the same kit with a small upgrade (better snare drum - Ludwig Supraphonic) in Australia was a bit over $7K.

Checking now we have caught up a fair bit AU $7,600 USA $4,000

The AU markup practice is the reason that Australians being able to buy online was so devistating to the AU market, we were so isolated that ripping us off was a business level sport in Australia. They could and did charge whatever they liked.

Nothing to do with market scale that's bullshit.

Cars cost twice as much here because of tariffs and taxes we even brought in a Luxury Car tax to protect Ford and Holden who stopped making cars yet the tax stayed.

Honda Toyota BMW all far cheaper in the US around half what we pay because they don't rip people off to pay for bloated bureaucracy.

Petrol is less than half price there because they don't tax it like we do. We have fuel excise levy then GST which is a tax on a tax.
Over there it's not a question of getting a V8 it's small or big block V8.

Clothes are also much cheaper picked up Nikes for $59 and lee jeans for $19.95.
6pr Under Armour socks $9.95 vs $25 for 3pr here.

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Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs
Reply #43 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 9:25pm

In the face of a trade war with America’s neighbors, Trump blinked

An objective view of the bizarre showdown with America’s neighbors suggests a blunt truth: Trump blinked.

The president vowed as recently as last week that there was nothing that Canada or Mexico could do to avoid the tariffs he planned to impose.

But he pulled back on imposing them anyway.

What a pussy Grin

He'll give in to China too.

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Re: Trump in humiliating backflip over tariffs
Reply #44 - Feb 4^th, 2025 at 9:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2025 at 9:25pm:

In the face of a trade war with America’s neighbors, Trump blinked

An objective view of the bizarre showdown with America’s neighbors suggests a blunt truth: Trump blinked.

The president vowed as recently as last week that there was nothing that Canada or Mexico could do to avoid the tariffs he planned to impose.

But he pulled back on imposing them anyway.

What a pussy Grin

He'll give in to China too.

That was fast! Flailing Trump folds immediately in failed tariff clash

U.S. tariffs on Canada and Mexico are on hold for the next 30 days. MSNBC’s Ari Melber reports, and is joined by Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, who discusses why Donald Trump folded.

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