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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #30 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:24am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:02am:

You need to do better research. I know you're desperately trying to make a point you don't actually believe for the sake of distraction, but come on, fact-check.
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You'll need to do better research... Maher has told the same story multiple times... His take on Trump over it depends on who he's talking to, it seems.

However, as is common with psychopaths, how they will take a joke is unpredictable... sometimes it's in good humour, other times it triggers a furious rage that can burn for years - as with Obama's roasting of him years ago... Although given the cordial way he and Obama interacted at Carter's funeral, it seems that the bad blood has bled away.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #31 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:40am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:22am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:26am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:21am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:14am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:02am:

What Maher describes about Trump at Hefner’s parties is more about Trump’s indifference to social norms and his unwavering sense of self-importance.

Simply showing up out of place and carrying on as if nothing is unusual suggests confidence (or obliviousness)

And if it's one thing someone so far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale has, it's misplaced confidence.

Ironically, you're confirming Trump's likely psychopathic traits.

An unwavering sense of self-importance... Obliviousness to social norms... both presentations with psychopaths.

And yes, psychopaths can be 'bipolar' in their response to jokes at their own expense...

I'm not commenting on the likelihood of his psychopathy either way, but it seems like an obvious ploy to distract from the more accurate, and terrifying explanations for his actions in the two examples you provided.

Are you saying a full-blown psychopath as a US president is not terrifying, or terrifying enough?

Ever seen the movie 'The Dead Zone'?

Of course it would be, I'm simply not commenting on that as I don't believe you to be genuine in your claims.

Someone doesn't flip so drastically overnight.

While I don't expect you to have read my posts as avidly as comic books, you'll be hard-pressed to find more than a miserable few where I defend or praise Trump...

So, no flip...

I know four years is half an hour for pearl-clutchers to maintain the rage... for the rest of us, like with this tariff fiasco, we're waiting 2 weeks, by which time whatever he was shitting on about, he will have forgotten after it's gone c~nt-up or that it turns out the aggrieved are in on it.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #32 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:49am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:24am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:02am:

You need to do better research. I know you're desperately trying to make a point you don't actually believe for the sake of distraction, but come on, fact-check.
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You'll need to do better research... Maher has told the same story multiple times... His take on Trump over it depends on who he's talking to, it seems.

However, as is common with psychopaths, how they will take a joke is unpredictable... sometimes it's in good humour, other times it triggers a furious rage that can burn for years - as with Obama's roasting of him years ago... Although given the cordial way he and Obama interacted at Carter's funeral, it seems that the bad blood has bled away.

Trump ran for President to get revenge on Obama because of the joke he made at Trump's expense...

He tried to undo everything Obama did, started the whole birther movement and led his supporters, some on here, to fantasise about "Mike", all because he couldn't take a joke.

These are not the actions of someone who can take a joke or is being self-deprecating.

That's what a deeply insecure man will do because he can't come to terms with his image and ego taking a hit in good humour.

It's the literal opposite of the narrative you're trying to push.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #33 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:55am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:40am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:22am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:26am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:21am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:14am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:02am:

What Maher describes about Trump at Hefner’s parties is more about Trump’s indifference to social norms and his unwavering sense of self-importance.

Simply showing up out of place and carrying on as if nothing is unusual suggests confidence (or obliviousness)

And if it's one thing someone so far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale has, it's misplaced confidence.

Ironically, you're confirming Trump's likely psychopathic traits.

An unwavering sense of self-importance... Obliviousness to social norms... both presentations with psychopaths.

And yes, psychopaths can be 'bipolar' in their response to jokes at their own expense...

I'm not commenting on the likelihood of his psychopathy either way, but it seems like an obvious ploy to distract from the more accurate, and terrifying explanations for his actions in the two examples you provided.

Are you saying a full-blown psychopath as a US president is not terrifying, or terrifying enough?

Ever seen the movie 'The Dead Zone'?

Of course it would be, I'm simply not commenting on that as I don't believe you to be genuine in your claims.

Someone doesn't flip so drastically overnight.

While I don't expect you to have read my posts as avidly as comic books, you'll be hard-pressed to find more than a miserable few where I defend or praise Trump...

So, no flip...

I know four years is half an hour for pearl-clutchers to maintain the rage... for the rest of us, like with this tariff fiasco, we're waiting 2 weeks, by which time whatever he was shitting on about, he will have forgotten after it's gone c~nt-up or that it turns out the aggrieved are in on it.

Oh, my mistake, it must just be people doing Nazi Salutes that you've been so avid in your defense.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #34 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:55am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:24am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:12am:

And now, we’re supposed to believe that you, the same person who bends over backwards to defend Trump at every turn

Yep! Eric Berne picked your number decades ago!

A read of my posts about Trump would indicate the exact opposite of defending him at every turn... like the ones in this thread, for example... I'm suggesting he's a psychopath... Would you consider that a compliment or in your defence if I said that of you?

I think he is more sociopathic narcissist.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #35 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:56am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:49am:

These are not the actions of someone who can take a joke or is being self-deprecating.

It's the literal opposite of the narrative you're trying to push.

These are the actions of a psychopath, however...

Who can 'enjoy' a joke at their expense one moment, even join in... at another, they can be filled with murderous rage at a similar joke...

Psychopaths are wildly inconsistent with their emotional responses... largely because anger is the only emotion they fully understand. The rest they don't get and usually rely on observation to mimic appropriate responses.

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KangAnon Gold Member Offline The Sandstorm is coming 🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵 Posts: 17855 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: Is Trump a Psychopath? Reply #36 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:02am Trump has consistently been a whiney little bitch, so there's that at least. Wether he is or isn't a psychopath, I think we have to worry more about those who are actually dictating the policy directly of his administration, his lack of empathy or even care for the American people and his accelerating cognitive decline.
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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #37 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:02am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

Oh, my mistake, it must just be people doing Nazi Salutes that you've been so avid in your defense.

Yep, your mistake... one of many.

Trump didn't make the gesture.

Also, even Piers Morgan, who'd take it up the clack from Trump, can both defend and criticise him... as he did over Trump's response to the plane crash.

If Morgan can do it, I'd bet even you can, even with your Moses gown on while standing on a low-hanging branch of a Moreton Bay Fig.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #39 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:24am

Trump is probably not a psychopath
He does have insane and probably delusional levels of self belief.

Is that psychopathic?

Men like Alexander, Muhammed. Mehmet, Henry V.
Napoleon Custer. Cortes. Drake. Patton
Churchill Branson Musk have possibly delusional levels of self belief

Some of them might have been labelled psychopathic

Skippy keeps calling Trump a whinny little batch but there is a lot more to it then that

He is more a cult leader

And to be a cult leader .you wouldn't even get to first base without presenting an energy for people to vibe with

The thing that I get and I think Trump gets is that there is an energy flow in nature.

If lots of people are devoting their energy to say bringing down Bill Gates or Anthony Fauci. That energy can be harnessed to disempower the haters

We saw this with the haters quickly becoming conspiracy theorists and empowering the very thing they resisted

In essence. Trump needs haters
It is his energy source.

Maybe early Christians needed haters
Same with Muslims

If everyone just ignored them like say the Mormons
They probably would have been much smaller religions

It's the paradox of power.

The more Trump is labelled a psycho
The harder it will be for those labelling him to make his fan base desert him

Trump could be easily defeated

Get a new democrat leader and refocus that energy on them

Look at twitter. Look at mainstream
Look at this American forum

It is 99.9% Trump and I don't even know who the democrats have that could be a leader .

What you resist. Persists

Truer words were never spoken

If the left think they are going to take Trump out by talking about him non stop
They are much stupider then I thought
And I do find them very stupid already

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #40 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:27am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:02am:

Trump has consistently been a whiney little bitch, so there's that at least.

Wether he is or isn't a psychopath, I think we have to worry more about those who are actually dictating the policy directly of his administration, his lack of empathy or even care for the American people and his accelerating cognitive decline.

You don't know if he has cognitive decline... and literally, everyone who knows him well, for or against him, is saying that he is the same as he has always been.

He's been shitting on about tariffs for over 40 years... Back then it was against Japan... back then, his point was that tariffs should replace income tax.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #41 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:32am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:24am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:12am:

And now, we’re supposed to believe that you, the same person who bends over backwards to defend Trump at every turn

Yep! Eric Berne picked your number decades ago!

A read of my posts about Trump would indicate the exact opposite of defending him at every turn... like the ones in this thread, for example... I'm suggesting he's a psychopath... Would you consider that a compliment or in your defence if I said that of you?

I think he is more sociopathic narcissist.

ASPD

What Is Antisocial Personality Disorder?

If you have ASPD, you may act in ways that go against socially acceptable standards. You may break laws and feel little or no guilt when you do something wrong. This condition usually develops in childhood, but you can’t get a diagnosis until you’re 18 or older.

If you have this personality disorder, you might do things like:

Lie to or trick others for personal gain

Commit crimes

Disregard rules or the safety of others

Act impulsively or aggressively

Act coldly toward others

Lie about both big and little things

Have few, if any, close relationships

Have trouble keeping a job or doing schoolwork

Take unneeded risks

Now, who does that sound like? Undecided

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #42 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:34am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:32am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:24am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:12am:

And now, we’re supposed to believe that you, the same person who bends over backwards to defend Trump at every turn

Yep! Eric Berne picked your number decades ago!

A read of my posts about Trump would indicate the exact opposite of defending him at every turn... like the ones in this thread, for example... I'm suggesting he's a psychopath... Would you consider that a compliment or in your defence if I said that of you?

I think he is more sociopathic narcissist.

ASPD

What Is Antisocial Personality Disorder?

If you have ASPD, you may act in ways that go against socially acceptable standards. You may break laws and feel little or no guilt when you do something wrong. This condition usually develops in childhood, but you can’t get a diagnosis until you’re 18 or older.

If you have this personality disorder, you might do things like:

Lie to or trick others for personal gain

Commit crimes

Disregard rules or the safety of others

Act impulsively or aggressively

Act coldly toward others

Lie about both big and little things

Have few, if any, close relationships

Have trouble keeping a job or doing schoolwork

Take unneeded risks

Now, who does that sound like? Undecided

What Is Psychopathy?

Psychopathy is not a diagnosis but a set of traits. Around 25%-30% of people with ASPD also have psychopathy.

To see if someone has psychopathy, a trained health care provider will commonly use something called the Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised. That’s a list of 20 characteristics. Traits commonly linked to psychopathy include:

Insincere charm

Getting easily bored

Compulsive lying

Manipulation of others

No remorse or guilt

Little emotional reaction

Cruelty without feeling bad about it

Taking advantage of others

Behavior problems that start in childhood

Failure to accept responsibility

Many sexual relationships

The rapist seems to tick every box.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #43 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:34am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:24am:

Trump is probably not a psychopath

Trump is likely psychopathic...

Dr Kevin Dutton published a survey listing the top professions in the UK that attract psychopaths - politicians were excluded because so few would agree to be assessed!

1. CEOs
2. Lawyers
3. TV/Radio - media people
4. Salespeople
5. Surgeons - particularly neuro, cardio-thoracic and orthopedic
6. Journalists
7. Police
8. The clergy
9. Chefs
10. Public servants

Political and military leaders would probably top the list... even above CEOs

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13214 Gender:	Re: Is Trump a Psychopath? Reply #44 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:39am aquascoot wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:24am: He is more a cult leader Cult leaders are almost certainly psychopathic.
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