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Is Trump a Psychopath?
Feb 5th, 2025 at 7:11am
 
Along with his public psychological history which indicates Trump suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, two events recently to which Trump responded, suggest he may also be psychopathic.

The first was his reaction to the helicopter/plane crash... Instead of focusing on leading the grief process, Trump reverted to fury at dwarfs and other minorities, indicating he has significant problems expressing empathy, and probably cannot empathise normally.

The second was his recent comment regarding the deal he signed with Canada and Mexico in 2018 - dubbed NAFTA 2.0. When commenting on the deals, he self-deprecatingly quipped, "When I took a look at the deals, I asked myself, 'who the hell made these deals'" to the sycophantic sniggers of his aides.

This suggests he is grossly and inappropriately glib.

Finally, Trump seems genuinely bemused when people slavishly take him seriously, indicating that while aware that he is not a serious person, he seems to enjoy his superficial charm.

Indications of psychopathy

Lack of empathy:

Irresponsible behaviour:

Aggressive behaviour:

Glibness:

Promiscuous sexual behaviour:

Disregard for safety:

Superficial charm:

Low tolerance for boredom:

Reckless Fearlessness:
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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #1 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 7:18am
 
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #2 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 7:41am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 7:11am:
The second was his recent comment regarding the deal he signed with Canada and Mexico in 2018 - dubbed NAFTA 2.0. When commenting on the deals, he self-deprecatingly quipped, "When I took a look at the deals, I asked myself, 'who the hell made these deals'" to the sycophantic sniggers of his aides.

This suggests he is grossly and inappropriately glib.


Or it could just be a sign of cognitive decline that some are trying to excuse as psychopathy because that, after all the attacks on Biden, is the lesser of two evils.

Especially since Trump is the complete opposite of self-deprecating. He is known for his self-promotion, grandiosity, and insistence on projecting strength and success. He rarely, if ever, makes jokes at his own expense and instead focuses on reinforcing his achievements, status, and intelligence, even if he has to lie about them, so it was no quip, as you can see for yourself:





Or that Trump is completely oblivious to what he's doing and just wants to be the President and is leaving all the policy and agenda stuff to other people, like Russell Vought, John Ratcliffe, Brendan Carr, and Tom Homan.

Again, claiming him to be a Psychopath allows the focus to be put on that, and then be dismissed as his critics being crazy, TDS or that they're detached.

I'm more worried about the other two explanations, the ones you're trying to hide...
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Reply #3 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:07am
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 7:41am:
Especially since Trump is the complete opposite of self-deprecating. He is known for his self-promotion, grandiosity, and insistence on projecting strength and success. He rarely, if ever, makes jokes at his own expense and instead focuses on reinforcing his achievements, status, and intelligence, even if he has to lie about them, so it was no quip, as you can see for yourself:
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Actually, Trump has a history of being in on self-deprecating jokes...

There are clips of him on Saturday Night Live where he takes the piss out of himself - one where he is acting as a janitor servicing the apartment of an actor playing Trump. The real Trump (janitor) asks 'Trump', 'And what's the deal with your hair?', to which 'Trump' replies 'Take a look at your own hair'... 'Janitor' replies, 'Yeah, but I'm a janitor... my hair's supposed to look like this'.
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Reply #4 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:12am
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 7:41am:
Or that Trump is completely oblivious to what he's doing and just wants to be the President and is leaving all the policy and agenda stuff to other people, like Russell Vought, John Ratcliffe, Brendan Carr, and Tom Homan.

That doesn't detract from Trump's possibly being a psychopath...

It also suggests gross glibness and superficiality.
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Reply #5 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:21am
 
Bill Maher tells of stories where Trump would be humorously odd to the point of self-deprecating...

Maher tells of times when Trump would turn up to Hugh Heffner's theme parties, where the theme is 'pyjamas and lingerie'. While everyone is dressed for that theme, Trump turns up dressed exactly as he always is - dark suit, white shirt and red tie - totally out of place, then calmly walks around the place as if nothing was odd about his appearance, pouring out the charm...

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #6 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:22am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:07am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 7:41am:
Especially since Trump is the complete opposite of self-deprecating. He is known for his self-promotion, grandiosity, and insistence on projecting strength and success. He rarely, if ever, makes jokes at his own expense and instead focuses on reinforcing his achievements, status, and intelligence, even if he has to lie about them, so it was no quip, as you can see for yourself:
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Actually, Trump has a history of being in on self-deprecating jokes...

There are clips of him on Saturday Night Live where he takes the piss out of himself - one where he is acting as a janitor servicing the apartment of an actor playing Trump. The real Trump (janitor) asks 'Trump', 'And what's the deal with your hair?', to which 'Trump' replies 'Take a look at your own hair'... 'Janitor' replies, 'Yeah, but I'm a janitor... my hair's supposed to look like this'.


You're hanging your hat on slits from SNL about 10 years ago written by other people that was part of his election campaign to soften his image?

While there were elements of self-deprecating humour in his SNL appearance, it doesn’t fully count in the same way it would if he had written or initiated the jokes himself. It was more of a controlled performance than a raw display of self-deprecation.

And even if we were to consider them to be genuine examples, that's what 0.0001% of his interactions with people, the rest being far from self-deprecating.

No, he's not known for it at all, just another lie in your attempt to twist a narrative to trick people into dropping their guard around you so you can continue whatever this is you're trying to do.
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Reply #7 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:24am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:21am:
Bill Maher tells of stories where Trump would be humorously odd to the point of self-deprecating...

Maher tells of times when Trump would turn up to Hugh Heffner's theme parties, where the theme is 'pyjamas and lingerie'. While everyone is dressed for that theme, Trump turns up dressed exactly as he always is - dark suit, white shirt and red tie - totally out of place, then calmly walks around the place as if nothing was odd about his appearance, pouring out the charm...



How is being disrespectful to the host and ignoring the theme of a party self-deprecating?

That's more on brand with Trump being his usual self...

Do you even know what it means to be self-deprecating?

You need to check your Google results for examples more closely before pasting them here...

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Reply #8 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:27am
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:22am:
just another lie in your attempt to twist a narrative to trick people into dropping their guard around you so you can continue whatever this is you're trying to do.

How long have you lived alone? It's making you deranged.

Whatever this is I'm trying to do?

I'm suggesting Trump may be a psychopath... hardly a compliment or a deranged defense of his behaviour.
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Reply #9 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:32am
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:24am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:21am:
Bill Maher tells of stories where Trump would be humorously odd to the point of self-deprecating...

Maher tells of times when Trump would turn up to Hugh Heffner's theme parties, where the theme is 'pyjamas and lingerie'. While everyone is dressed for that theme, Trump turns up dressed exactly as he always is - dark suit, white shirt and red tie - totally out of place, then calmly walks around the place as if nothing was odd about his appearance, pouring out the charm...



How is being disrespectful to the host and ignoring the theme of a party self-deprecating?

That's more on brand with Trump being his usual self...


Because, as Maher put it, he was met with ridicule by the other guests which Trump handled by appearing to be in on it.

Most of New York's and California's liberal elite liked Trump for what they perceived was his genuine charm and ability to take a joke at his own expense. They only turned on him when he decided to run for office.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #10 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:34am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:32am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:24am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:21am:
Bill Maher tells of stories where Trump would be humorously odd to the point of self-deprecating...

Maher tells of times when Trump would turn up to Hugh Heffner's theme parties, where the theme is 'pyjamas and lingerie'. While everyone is dressed for that theme, Trump turns up dressed exactly as he always is - dark suit, white shirt and red tie - totally out of place, then calmly walks around the place as if nothing was odd about his appearance, pouring out the charm...



How is being disrespectful to the host and ignoring the theme of a party self-deprecating?

That's more on brand with Trump being his usual self...


Because, as Maher put it, he was met with ridicule by the other guests which Trump handled by appearing to be in on it.

Most of New York's and California's liberal elite liked Trump for what they perceived was his genuine charm and ability to take a joke at his own expense. They only turned on him when he decided to run for office.



Yeah, you don't know what self-deprecation is...
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Reply #11 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:37am
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:34am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:32am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:24am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:21am:
Bill Maher tells of stories where Trump would be humorously odd to the point of self-deprecating...

Maher tells of times when Trump would turn up to Hugh Heffner's theme parties, where the theme is 'pyjamas and lingerie'. While everyone is dressed for that theme, Trump turns up dressed exactly as he always is - dark suit, white shirt and red tie - totally out of place, then calmly walks around the place as if nothing was odd about his appearance, pouring out the charm...



How is being disrespectful to the host and ignoring the theme of a party self-deprecating?

That's more on brand with Trump being his usual self...


Because, as Maher put it, he was met with ridicule by the other guests which Trump handled by appearing to be in on it.

Most of New York's and California's liberal elite liked Trump for what they perceived was his genuine charm and ability to take a joke at his own expense. They only turned on him when he decided to run for office.



Yeah, you don't know what self-deprecation is...

Yeah, I do...

Something that everyone will tell you who knows him well: he can be very self-deprecating, probably in the way psychopaths can be, in that they take very little seriously, including sometimes themselves.

Also, those who have known him for decades remark on how unchanged he is... they don't perceive any cognitive decline.
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Reply #12 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:45am
 
That Trump's personality characteristics are likely heritable, can be seen in Barron Trump.

Where once Barron, as a child, had the public demeanour of a clueless space cadet, that has changed with maturity into a blank, empty, emotionless stare.

Tellingly, of all his sons, Barron is the one he apparently feels closest to.
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Reply #13 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:52am
 

Trump is not a psychopath - he's just a very naughty boy.
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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #14 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 9:02am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:37am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:34am:
Yeah, you don't know what self-deprecation is...

Yeah, I do...

Something that everyone will tell you who knows him well: he can be very self-deprecating, probably in the way psychopaths can be, in that they take very little seriously, including sometimes themselves.

Also, those who have known him for decades remark on how unchanged he is... they don't perceive any cognitive decline.


You need to do better research.  I know you're desperately trying to make a point you don't actually believe for the sake of distraction, but come on, fact-check.

I know you MAGA folk hate to fact-check but come on, it's not hard...

The only example you've given that Trump is "known for his self-deprecation" was Bill Maher, and it didn't even display any self-deprecation from Trump.  Self-deprecation involves making fun of oneself and acknowledging one’s own flaws or shortcomings in a humorous way.

What Maher describes about Trump at Hefner’s parties is more about Trump’s indifference to social norms and his unwavering sense of self-importance.

Simply showing up out of place and carrying on as if nothing is unusual suggests confidence (or obliviousness), not self-mockery.  And if it's one thing someone so far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale has, it's misplaced confidence.

Watch the whole interview, don't just rely on a lazy google search:



If you actually check what Maher has said about Trump, you'll find he has often criticised Trump for lacking a self-deprecating sense of humour.

In his 2016 stand-up special, "Bill Maher: #WhinyLittleBitch," Maher mocked Trump's sensitivity to criticism and his inability to laugh at himself. Maher emphasised that Trump's thin skin and constant need for praise prevent him from engaging in self-deprecating humour.

In a 2013 incident, Maher joked that Trump was the offspring of an orangutan, a satirical reference to Trump's demands for President Obama's birth certificate. Trump responded by producing his birth certificate and filing a lawsuit against Maher, which he later withdrew. In Maher's view, this reaction further illustrated Trump's inability to take a joke at his own expense.

Overall, Maher portrays Trump as lacking the humility and self-awareness necessary for self-deprecating humour, often highlighting his sensitivity to criticism and his propensity to retaliate against detractors.
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