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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11916 Armidale Gender:	Re: Is Trump a Psychopath? Reply #45 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:41am aquascoot wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:24am: What you resist. Persists If the left think they are going to take Trump out by talking about him non stop Resistance led to the end of WWI and WWII. Talking changed support for Vietnam war to withdrawal.
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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #46 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:44am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:34am:

Psychopathy is not a diagnosis but a set of traits. Around 25%-30% of people with ASPD also have psychopathy.

Psychopathy is identified as one of the four dark personality traits, complementing the 'big five'.

The dark personality traits are: psychopathy, narcissism, Machiavellianism and sadism.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #47 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:45am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:32am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:24am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:12am:

And now, we’re supposed to believe that you, the same person who bends over backwards to defend Trump at every turn

Yep! Eric Berne picked your number decades ago!

A read of my posts about Trump would indicate the exact opposite of defending him at every turn... like the ones in this thread, for example... I'm suggesting he's a psychopath... Would you consider that a compliment or in your defence if I said that of you?

I think he is more sociopathic narcissist.

ASPD

What Is Antisocial Personality Disorder?

If you have ASPD, you may act in ways that go against socially acceptable standards. You may break laws and feel little or no guilt when you do something wrong. This condition usually develops in childhood, but you can’t get a diagnosis until you’re 18 or older.

If you have this personality disorder, you might do things like:

Lie to or trick others for personal gain

Commit crimes

Disregard rules or the safety of others

Act impulsively or aggressively

Act coldly toward others

Lie about both big and little things

Have few, if any, close relationships

Have trouble keeping a job or doing schoolwork

Take unneeded risks

Now, who does that sound like? Undecided

What Is Psychopathy?

Psychopathy is not a diagnosis but a set of traits. Around 25%-30% of people with ASPD also have psychopathy.

To see if someone has psychopathy, a trained health care provider will commonly use something called the Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised. That’s a list of 20 characteristics. Traits commonly linked to psychopathy include:

Insincere charm

Getting easily bored

Compulsive lying

Manipulation of others

No remorse or guilt

Little emotional reaction

Cruelty without feeling bad about it

Taking advantage of others

Behavior problems that start in childhood

Failure to accept responsibility

Many sexual relationships

The rapist seems to tick every box.

What’s the Difference Between Sociopathy and Psychopathy?

If you have ASPD, or sociopathy, you probably know you're doing something wrong when you do something wrong. But you may have little empathy for others. That means it can be hard for you to see things from someone else's perspective or understand how they feel. So even though you may know something you're doing is harmful or unethical, that's not enough to stop you from doing it.

On the flip side, some experts think people with psychopathy lack a sense of empathy or morality. Compared to someone with ASPD who doesn't have psychopathy, you may feel less regard for others. Others think it's just much harder for you to predict when your actions will lead to harmful consequences.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #48 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:45am:

On the flip side, some experts think people with psychopathy lack a sense of empathy or morality. Compared to someone with ASPD who doesn't have psychopathy, you may feel less regard for others. Others think it's just much harder for you to predict when your actions will lead to harmful consequences.[/i]

Brain scans of psychopaths reveal that they are literally not wired to process empathy nor a range of emotional responses during normal human interactions.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #49 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:56am

With morality, it appears psychopaths cannot process appropriate moral behaviour...

Morality 'hijacks' the brain's pathogenic recoil mechanism (the disgust response) to suppress immoral behaviour and to respond negatively to immoral behaviour in others.

With psychopaths, immoral behaviour does not trigger disgust and so they do not feel shame or repugnance at the thought of immoral acts.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11916 Armidale Gender:	Re: Is Trump a Psychopath? Reply #50 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:57am It's a worry if that's 49.9% of united state people.
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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 85299 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Is Trump a Psychopath? Reply #51 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 12:10pm Look around you - there could be a psychopath under every bush... so I look around... guess what?
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11916 Armidale Gender:	Re: Is Trump a Psychopath? Reply #52 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 12:25pm Statement by President George W. Bush on the 2024 Presidential Election ' I congratulate President Trump on his election as 47th President of the United States of America, as well as Vice President-elect J.D. Vance and their families'.
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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #53 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 12:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:32am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:24am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:12am:

And now, we’re supposed to believe that you, the same person who bends over backwards to defend Trump at every turn

Yep! Eric Berne picked your number decades ago!

A read of my posts about Trump would indicate the exact opposite of defending him at every turn... like the ones in this thread, for example... I'm suggesting he's a psychopath... Would you consider that a compliment or in your defence if I said that of you?

I think he is more sociopathic narcissist.

ASPD

What Is Antisocial Personality Disorder?

If you have ASPD, you may act in ways that go against socially acceptable standards. You may break laws and feel little or no guilt when you do something wrong. This condition usually develops in childhood, but you can’t get a diagnosis until you’re 18 or older.

If you have this personality disorder, you might do things like:

Lie to or trick others for personal gain

Commit crimes

Disregard rules or the safety of others

Act impulsively or aggressively

Act coldly toward others

Lie about both big and little things

Have few, if any, close relationships

Have trouble keeping a job or doing schoolwork

Take unneeded risks

Now, who does that sound like? Undecided

What Is Psychopathy?

Psychopathy is not a diagnosis but a set of traits. Around 25%-30% of people with ASPD also have psychopathy.

To see if someone has psychopathy, a trained health care provider will commonly use something called the Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised. That’s a list of 20 characteristics. Traits commonly linked to psychopathy include:

Insincere charm

Getting easily bored

Compulsive lying

Manipulation of others

No remorse or guilt

Little emotional reaction

Cruelty without feeling bad about it

Taking advantage of others

Behavior problems that start in childhood

Failure to accept responsibility

Many sexual relationships

The rapist seems to tick every box.

What’s the Difference Between Sociopathy and Psychopathy?

If you have ASPD, or sociopathy, you probably know you're doing something wrong when you do something wrong. But you may have little empathy for others. That means it can be hard for you to see things from someone else's perspective or understand how they feel. So even though you may know something you're doing is harmful or unethical, that's not enough to stop you from doing it.

On the flip side, some experts think people with psychopathy lack a sense of empathy or morality. Compared to someone with ASPD who doesn't have psychopathy, you may feel less regard for others. Others think it's just much harder for you to predict when your actions will lead to harmful consequences.

TDS kids have both.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #54 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 1:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:32am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:24am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:12am:

And now, we’re supposed to believe that you, the same person who bends over backwards to defend Trump at every turn

Yep! Eric Berne picked your number decades ago!

A read of my posts about Trump would indicate the exact opposite of defending him at every turn... like the ones in this thread, for example... I'm suggesting he's a psychopath... Would you consider that a compliment or in your defence if I said that of you?

I think he is more sociopathic narcissist.

ASPD

What Is Antisocial Personality Disorder?

If you have ASPD, you may act in ways that go against socially acceptable standards. You may break laws and feel little or no guilt when you do something wrong. This condition usually develops in childhood, but you can’t get a diagnosis until you’re 18 or older.

If you have this personality disorder, you might do things like:

Lie to or trick others for personal gain

Commit crimes

Disregard rules or the safety of others

Act impulsively or aggressively

Act coldly toward others

Lie about both big and little things

Have few, if any, close relationships

Have trouble keeping a job or doing schoolwork

Take unneeded risks

Now, who does that sound like? Undecided

Trump ticks all the boxes.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #55 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 1:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:32am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:24am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:12am:

And now, we’re supposed to believe that you, the same person who bends over backwards to defend Trump at every turn

Yep! Eric Berne picked your number decades ago!

A read of my posts about Trump would indicate the exact opposite of defending him at every turn... like the ones in this thread, for example... I'm suggesting he's a psychopath... Would you consider that a compliment or in your defence if I said that of you?

I think he is more sociopathic narcissist.

ASPD

What Is Antisocial Personality Disorder?

If you have ASPD, you may act in ways that go against socially acceptable standards. You may break laws and feel little or no guilt when you do something wrong. This condition usually develops in childhood, but you can’t get a diagnosis until you’re 18 or older.

If you have this personality disorder, you might do things like:

Lie to or trick others for personal gain

Commit crimes

Disregard rules or the safety of others

Act impulsively or aggressively

Act coldly toward others

Lie about both big and little things

Have few, if any, close relationships

Have trouble keeping a job or doing schoolwork

Take unneeded risks

Now, who does that sound like? Undecided

What Is Psychopathy?

Psychopathy is not a diagnosis but a set of traits. Around 25%-30% of people with ASPD also have psychopathy.

To see if someone has psychopathy, a trained health care provider will commonly use something called the Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised. That’s a list of 20 characteristics. Traits commonly linked to psychopathy include:

Insincere charm

Getting easily bored

Compulsive lying

Manipulation of others

No remorse or guilt

Little emotional reaction

Cruelty without feeling bad about it

Taking advantage of others

Behavior problems that start in childhood

Failure to accept responsibility

Many sexual relationships

The rapist seems to tick every box.

Trump is a textbook example.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #56 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 1:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 11:32am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:55am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:24am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:12am:

And now, we’re supposed to believe that you, the same person who bends over backwards to defend Trump at every turn

Yep! Eric Berne picked your number decades ago!

A read of my posts about Trump would indicate the exact opposite of defending him at every turn... like the ones in this thread, for example... I'm suggesting he's a psychopath... Would you consider that a compliment or in your defence if I said that of you?

I think he is more sociopathic narcissist.

ASPD

What Is Antisocial Personality Disorder?

If you have ASPD, you may act in ways that go against socially acceptable standards. You may break laws and feel little or no guilt when you do something wrong. This condition usually develops in childhood, but you can’t get a diagnosis until you’re 18 or older.

If you have this personality disorder, you might do things like:

Lie to or trick others for personal gain

Commit crimes

Disregard rules or the safety of others

Act impulsively or aggressively

Act coldly toward others

Lie about both big and little things

Now, [i]who does that sound like? Undecided

Sounds remarkably like you.

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Re: Is Trump a Psychopath?
Reply #57 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 1:07pm

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To see if someone has psychopathy, a trained health care provider will commonly use something called the Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised. That’s a list of 20 characteristics. Traits commonly linked to psychopathy include:

Item 1: Glibness/superficial charm
Item 2: Grandiose sense of self-worth
Item 3: Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
Item 4: Pathological lying
Item 5: Conning/manipulative[12]
Item 6: Lack of remorse or guilt
Item 7: Shallow affect
Item 8: Callous/lack of empathy
Item 9: Parasitic lifestyle
Item 10: Poor behavioral controls
Item 11: Promiscuous sexual behavior
Item 12: Early behavior problems
Item 13: Lack of realistic, long-term goals
Item 14: Impulsivity
Item 15: Irresponsibility
Item 16: Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
Item 17: Many short-term marital relationships
Item 18: Juvenile delinquency
Item 19: Revocation of conditional release
Item 20: Criminal versatility

A remarkably accurate list of your characteristics.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139402 Gender:	Re: Is Trump a Psychopath? Reply #58 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 1:09pm Frank showing his maturity
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 47841 Gender:	Re: Is Trump a Psychopath? Reply #59 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 1:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 1:09pm: Frank showing his maturity Not at all. Showing your pathologies and moral deformities.
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