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Reply #120 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:55pm

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-official-says-trumps-remarks-abo...

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Trump's plan draws international condemnation

Saudi Arabia rejects displacement of Palestinians, demands Palestinian state

Russia backs Palestinian state

Palestinians fear another 'Nakba' amid Trump's controversial proposal

Netanyahu says Trump is thinking with fresh ideas

WASHINGTON, Feb 5 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's plan for the U.S. to take over war-torn Gaza and create a "Riviera of the Middle East" after resettling Palestinians elsewhere has shattered U.S. policy on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and sparked widespread criticism.
The shock move from Trump, a former New York property developer, was swiftly condemned by international powers, with
regional heavyweight Saudi Arabia, which Trump hopes will establish ties with Israel, rejecting the plan outright.
Turkey called the proposal "unacceptable" and France said it risked destabilising the Middle East.
Countries from Russia, China, Spain, Ireland and the UK said they continued to support the two-state solution that has formed the basis of Washington's policy in the region for decades.
Trump, in his first major Middle East policy announcement, said he envisioned building a resort where international communities could live in harmony after over 15 months of Israeli bombardment devastated the tiny coastal enclave and killed more than 47,000 people, by Palestinian tallies.

Trump's son-in-law and former aide, Jared Kushner, last year described Gaza as "valuable" waterfront property.
The casual proposal sent diplomatic shockwaves across the Middle East and around the globe. China said it opposed the forced transfer of Palestinians.
"China has always believed that Palestinians governing Palestine is the basic principle of post-conflict governance," China's Foreign Ministry spokesperson Lin Jian said, adding Beijing backs a two-state solution in the region.
Some of the toughest criticism came from France, which said the forced displacement of Gazans would be a serious violation of international law, an attack on the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinians and destabilise the region.
An official from Palestinian militant group Hamas, which ruled the Gaza Strip before fighting Israel in a brutal war there, said Trump's statement about taking over the enclave was "ridiculous and absurd".
"Any ideas of this kind are capable of igniting the region," Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters, saying Hamas remains committed to the ceasefire accord with Israel and "ensuring the success of the negotiation in the second phase".
It is not clear whether Trump will go ahead with his controversial plan or is simply taking an extreme position as a bargaining strategy.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106750 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever. Reply #121 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:55pm Will Trump's plan bring peace or more war?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106750 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever. Reply #122 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:55pm .
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106750 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever. Reply #123 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:55pm .
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59253 Here Gender:	Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever. Reply #125 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:04pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:50pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:20pm: Some people are truly evil. Some people support it. You are talking about hamas I take it? Donald. Hamas are not nice either.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59253 Here Gender:	Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever. Reply #126 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:06pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 9:55pm: Will Trump's plan bring peace or more war? He would be crazy to do it, Congress would be more crazy to let him. It would bring much more war.
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Reply #127 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:26pm

mothra wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 8:33pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 8:30pm:

Let me guess. In order to bump up this topic to see Mothras post, which is currently not flipped for viewing.
I would say she posts some sort of ego drvel because she really doesn't have a solution to the Israel Palestine contual stalemate of periodic violence over the many decades. I mean, she knows better than Trump. Roll Eyes

I threw a spouted potato in the compost tonight that knew better than trump on this one.

Anyone defending him on this is either a zealot or an absolute idiot.

Or, in Jasin's case, simply a whackadoodle.

What about those of us who merely consider his ideas and look for the agenda in them?

He's upset the global economy - there's a good start... now he's telling the Arabs to get with the 21st Century... owzat?

Some top Muslim guy in Syria said that was the Gazans etc real homeland... maybe they're just eyeless in Gaza due to the self-bleaching etc...

Since Gaza will NOT accept being a de-militarised zone (a DMZ - Dead Man Zone) but will perpetually attack Israel and Israelis and any peacekeeping force - there is no real future for it other than de-population or re-settlement in re-education camps to de-radicalise them.

I doubt you'd want either of those last ... and I guarantee you will not even consider the first - de-militarisation and enforcement by an international peacekeeping body. National and personal sovereignty, you know - the same people who screech at the Untied States gun owners will screech that taking the weapons from the Gazans will make them defenceless .... mindless confused hypocrisy's like that.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35578 Gender:	Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever. Reply #128 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 6:10am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 10:26pm: .... mindless confused hypocrisy's like that. Testify!
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13235 Gender:	Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever. Reply #129 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 6:48am Mind-numbingly boring that a Yankist would presume that a people whose connection to their land, their identity, and their religion comes before all else, would give it up for a billionaire's hotel strip. Would Yankists in the bible belt give up killer-Jesus for love-Jesus?
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Reply #130 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 6:51am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 6:48am:

Mind-numbingly boring that a Yankist would presume that a people whose connection to their land, their identity, and their religion, would give it up for a billionaire's hotel strip.

Would Yankists in the bible belt give up killer-Jesus for love-Jesus?

You say "gave up" like the people in question have a choice.

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Reply #131 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 6:57am

mothra wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 6:51am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 6:48am:

Mind-numbingly boring that a Yankist would presume that a people whose connection to their land, their identity, and their religion, would give it up for a billionaire's hotel strip.

Would Yankists in the bible belt give up killer-Jesus for love-Jesus?

You say "gave up" like the people in question have a choice.

Every deported Palestinian and Muslim in at least all of the Middle East will lurch toward radical Islamism to defend what they would believe to be a matter of honour...

The sale of their religion, land and cultural identity for hotels and a 'Riveria' would make a target of every American and US interest as a matter of duty.

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Reply #132 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 7:08am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 6:57am:

mothra wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 6:51am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 6:48am:

Mind-numbingly boring that a Yankist would presume that a people whose connection to their land, their identity, and their religion, would give it up for a billionaire's hotel strip.

Would Yankists in the bible belt give up killer-Jesus for love-Jesus?

You say "gave up" like the people in question have a choice.

Every deported Palestinian and Muslim in at least all of the Middle East will lurch toward radical Islamism to defend what they would believe to be a matter of honour...

The sale of their religion, land and cultural identity for hotels and a 'Riveria' would make a target of every American and US interest as a matter of duty.

Every single one of them, eh?

Far be it from you to cast any wide nets.

But your hyperbole aside, of course this will breed terrorists. It's a no-brainer.

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Reply #133 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 7:09am

Trump's plan is never what he says.
It's to see the reactions and responses to his feint
For therein lies the answers and he takes it from there.
In other words, the end result will be the Arab nations doing something about it. Which is what his true goal is.
No different to how he got the Democrats to make him President.

Cunning little ranga.

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Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever.
Reply #134 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 8:00am

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 7:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 5:54pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 5:49pm:

Not quite the same as 650,000 is it?

i didn't say 650 000 moved there from arab countries Cheesy

That's right. You lied and said it was 250,000. Because you didn't want to admit that I was right that the majority were either locals or from Muslim countries. That would undermine you final solution to dig up all their graves and post the remains back to Europe. Can you explain how that would achieve peace, BTW?

so you lie about what I said, then when you get called out for it you claim that I'm right, and I lied again whilst lying about what I said? Cheesy

you really are as dumb as dogsh1t you know that

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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