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Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever. (Read 4590 times)
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Reply #180 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 10:02am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 7th, 2025 at 9:46am:
freediver wrote on Feb 7th, 2025 at 9:39am:
Those scheming Jews eh



when you were told it was just a land grab and you said it was hamas propaganda, now that bibi and trump admit they want to build hotels and resorts, are you still going to blame hamas propaganda?



There will be a Trump casino and a Trump hotel/tower.
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Reply #181 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 10:16am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Feb 7th, 2025 at 9:35am:
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And here:

Zionist Crimes Against The Jews



For many centuries Morocco (Al-Maghrib) had large prosperous Jewish communities, known as Mizrahi Jews, who lived peacefully with their Moslem Arab neighbors. This peaceful coexistence encouraged Spanish Jews (Sephardim) to escape to Morocco during the Spanish Reconquista period when Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand recaptured Spain in the 13 th century, and ordered the Jews to either convert to Christianity or leave the country. After 781 years of flourishing existence under the Islamic Caliphate rule, many Spanish Jews escaped Christian persecution to the more welcoming Islamic Morocco.

The Jewish virtual library confesses that Mizrahi and Sephardim Jews of Morocco enjoyed greater equality with Muslims. Many of them gained important positions in the government administration as officials and in courts of law as judges. The Jews had their own quarters in the main cities, where they had their own schools, their own synagogues, and even their own courts and judges. They comprised a large section of the middle class, who played large roles in the economy, trade, industry and educational system of the kingdom.

All this was changed with the invention of the Israeli state, especially after Zionist leaders had sent their agents to encourage and to bribe Moroccan Jews, among many other Arab Jews, to immigrate to occupied Palestine. Considering themselves Moroccan citizens of the Jewish faith, the Jews initially rejected Zionism. Yet some young Jews were seduced into enlisting into the Mossad. They were smuggled into Israel to receive military and terrorist training. They were sent back to Morocco to perpetrate terrorist attacks against both Jews and Arabs and to distribute hate inciting leaflets in order to incite conflict between the two groups...



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What a pack of absolute bulldust .
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Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever.
Reply #182 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 10:23am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 7th, 2025 at 9:46am:
freediver wrote on Feb 7th, 2025 at 9:39am:
Those scheming Jews eh



when you were told it was just a land grab and you said it was hamas propaganda, now that bibi and trump admit they want to build hotels and resorts, are you still going to blame hamas propaganda?



Of course... if the Philistines had played their cards right they could have been bell boys and parking lot attendants .... room service and bed makers.... and lord how the money rolls in.. tips and all!  But they blew it by being recalcitrants...

Anyway - I'm still struck by the Magic Uniforms that appeared out of nowhere once a ceasefire was in place... before that there was never a photo of a single dead heroic fighter with the green headband etc amongst the lies and fake photos about dead kids.... someone else picked that up - not me ...  you'd think that our usual suspects here - your phils, kangas, wombats, mothras, and even John Smith would realise they were being played...
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Reply #183 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 11:01am
 
tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 1:08pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 12:58pm:
The plan doesn't really solve the fundamental problem - no other country wants the Palestinians. Every country that has let them in has regretted it.


They had a plan in Israel to evict the Palastinians into the Sinai desert.   But they did not have the political capital or the military power to do it.  Now, USA is volunteering.   So any future acts of aggression will be directed towards the USA and its allies.    We will probably have to help out as well.

If no countries wants them, then USA will make a place somewhere, and build a concentration camp.  And when the cost gets too high.  They will probably have to think of some 'final solution'.  It is WW2 all over again.



Rubbish Roll Eyes
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Reply #184 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 11:02am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 7th, 2025 at 9:46am:
freediver wrote on Feb 7th, 2025 at 9:39am:
Those scheming Jews eh



when you were told it was just a land grab and you said it was hamas propaganda


You really do just make everything up as you go along, don't you John?
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Reply #185 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 11:03am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 3:23pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 2:47pm:
So after 60 years, hundreds of politicians, heaps of ceasefire and here we are.

The killings keep on going and the response is, let's keep doing what we have been doing for the last 60 years and see if we get a different result.

At least Trump knows something different than what they have been doing for the last 60 years has to happen.

I'm sick f people saying we should try something that has failed for 60 years.



the killing etc has been because they kicked the palestinians out of their homes to start with. ... only an idiot would think repeating the process will solve anything. Congrats, you qualify


More rubbish.
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Reply #186 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 11:36am
 
tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 4:09pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 3:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 3:23pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 2:47pm:
So after 60 years, hundreds of politicians, heaps of ceasefire and here we are.

The killings keep on going and the response is, let's keep doing what we have been doing for the last 60 years and see if we get a different result.

At least Trump knows something different than what they have been doing for the last 60 years has to happen.

I'm sick f people saying we should try something that has failed for 60 years.



the killing etc has been because they kicked the palestinians out of their homes to start with. ... only an idiot would think repeating the process will solve anything. Congrats, you qualify


So you want to keep going down the same path, and in 50 years you grand children can call my grandchildren idiots because something different has to be done.


I dont know where you had being living.  But Israel had being trying to 'clean out' the palestinians for a LONG time.  It had failed multpile times.   So now, Trump wants to try it on behalf of Israel.   US son and daughters will be sent to die there, tax payers money spent.   So much for Amercia First.   


You're full of shyte ... The Arab Israelis (living in Israel) - 11 Arabs currently serve in the Parliament(The Knesset) over the years since 1949 there have been 90 other Arabs in the Knesset. They also serve in the IDF, 606 Arab Muslims joined the IDF in 2020. They fight against Hamas.  https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/meet-muslim-arab-and-bedouin-soldiers-of-is...

Dr. Samer Haj-Yehia is the CEO of one of Israels largest Banks.

I wonder why? Could it be that they have a far better life and are much more well off living in Israel?  Roll Eyes
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Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever.
Reply #187 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 11:39am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 4:10pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 4:00pm:
There would be peace if the Palestinians wanted peace.



there would be peace if the jews stayed out of palestinian lands and stopped killing their children


They kill their own women and children - using them as human shields.

There were no Palestinian peoples - if that were so then the Jews would also be Palestinians. There was no functioning country called Palestine - it was a geographical location on a map.
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Reply #188 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 11:43am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 5:08pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 5:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 5:00pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 4:54pm:
Where should they stay? In the sea?

You are hopelessly naïve John  Smith.


ideally they should bugger off back to Europe, where most of them came from, but we both know they won't do that.
So how about they just they could stay out of the Palestinian and occupied territories and go back to the borders originally drawn up when the whole stupid idea was first conceived

What about the ones from Iran, Iraq and other Middle East countries that were driven out of Israel and persecuted in Muslim lands who's ancestors never set foot in Europe. You have thought about them haven't you.



what about them? the discussion is about gaza you dumbarse .. don't start pretending you suddenly care about Palestinians affected outside of that region Cheesy


You mentioned Europe you dumbarse.
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Reply #189 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 11:47am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 5:43pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 5:34pm:
Nice cherry picking of data John. Only count 3 or 4 years out of the whole century.


I looked at the movement in the decade after wwii. You proving even more moved to Israel from other areas only solidifies my position that most of them aren't from Israel.  Cheesy


The Palestinians use their ancestry as justification.

Why can't the Jews?

There were there 3,000 years before the Arab Muslims.
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Reply #190 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 11:51am
 
tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 6:08pm:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 5:57pm:
Predictably, the usual suspects have jumped on the outrage bus without thinking this through. In this current Trump government we have seen a rather cunning strategy. Take an extreme position and watch the panic among those it is directed at. Give them time to squirm then offer an alternative they are relieved and happy to accept.  Worked with the Canadians and Mexicans and the same is now being applied to the HAMAS terrorists and their masters.


Yes cunning.  You know Canada is one of USA's best and closest allies.  They followed US into WW1, WW2, Korean war, Vietnam War, Gulf warx2, Afghanistan + more.  Their soldiers fought and bled with US compatriots.  And the USA is threatening them with tariffs to get what they want. 

I am sorry, you cant treat your friends and allies like this. 


Threatening the tariffs because of the Trudeau Govt .... not threatening the Canadian people per se.
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Reply #191 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 11:56am
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 7th, 2025 at 10:02am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 7th, 2025 at 9:46am:
freediver wrote on Feb 7th, 2025 at 9:39am:
Those scheming Jews eh



when you were told it was just a land grab and you said it was hamas propaganda, now that bibi and trump admit they want to build hotels and resorts, are you still going to blame hamas propaganda?



There will be a Trump casino and a Trump hotel/tower.


Employing illegal immigrants for less than the minimum wage.

The casino will go broke within 12 months, and the hotel will have empty rooms for most of the year and will eventually have to be demolished.

So, just like America.
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Reply #192 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 12:07pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 6:04pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 6:00pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 5:50pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 5:48pm:
Do you know how many Palestinians only came to Palestine after the war, I  bet you don't.


for starters, all the ones Israel kicked out of what is now Israel


So when they were kicked out of what is now Israel, what was it called when they were kicked out?.

I don't know why you insist on going off on the dumbest tangents ... who cares what it was called? It makes no difference to the people who got thrown out of their homes.


It's not a dumb tangent. You want to quote history - this is history.

Not the dreamt up Yasser Arafats(an Egyptian) history.
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Reply #193 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 12:10pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Just in (SBS): the Jewish Council  of Australia is not on board with Trump's proposal, calling it "the most extreme right-wing  Israel policy ever."

Ouch - suck that up, you blind  Israel lovers


From a blind terrorist group supporter.

Perhaps we should get a white cane and Labrador each and get on the NDIS?
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Reply #194 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 12:12pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 6:21pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 5:57pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 5:50pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 5:48pm:
Do you know how many Palestinians only came to Palestine after the war, I  bet you don't.


for starters, all the ones Israel kicked out of what is now Israel


The Jews predate the Palestinians in Palestine by 1600 to 2600 years.

Read up on why the Romans decided to call Israel Palestine.


And here is the sad part.  Jews and Palestinian arabs are basically the same people.

Intrigued by the genetic similarities between the two populations, geneticist Ariella Oppenheim of Hebrew University in Jerusalem, who collaborated on the earlier study, focused on Arab and Jewish men. Her team examined the Y chromosomes of 119 Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews and 143 Israeli and Palestinian Arabs. Many of the Jewish subjects were descended from ancestors who presumably originated in the Levant but dispersed throughout the world before returning to Israel in the past few generations; most of the Arab subjects could trace their ancestry to men who had lived in the region for centuries or longer. The Y chromosomes of many of the men had key segments of DNA that were so similar that they clustered into just three of many groups known as haplogroups. Other short segments of DNA called microsatellites were similar enough to reveal that the men must have had common ancestors within the past several thousand years. The study, reported here at a Human Origins and Disease conference, and published in issue  of Human Genetics in 2000.


So it all boils down to religion - The Religion of Peace(Islam)and what it does to the mindset of people.... yes?
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