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Reply #15 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 1:16pm

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But they did not have the political capital or the military power to do it.

So the Israeli army can defend itself against an attack by seven other countries and split the area into two nations, but they were not strong enough to evict the Palestinians to a different block of land?

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If no countries wants them, then USA will make a place somewhere

Where? Without answering that question, there is no kind of plan at all on the table, just a bargaining chip

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Reply #16 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 1:20pm

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 1:16pm:

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But they did not have the political capital or the military power to do it.

So the Israeli army can defend itself against an attack by seven other countries and split the area into two nations, but they were not strong enough to evict the Palestinians to a different block of land?

It depends HOW they want to move it. If by moving, means going in, all guns and bombs blazing, killing everything and anything in sight. Then... yeah sure.. you can probably do it.

But... to do it... semi humanely. You have to deal with people who dont want to leave, and countries who dont want to accept. Then you have to put in man powers to coordinate people to force someone out, people to bribe someone out, people to secure places where they are moving to, AND feed them while they are moving (or at least your own troops). Then... you are talking at least may be 200 000 front line troops, 200 000 supply troopes and would cost hundreds of billions of dollars to run. AND you become an international villian.

As to where, well no one knows at the moment. Cheesy

. We have to ask President Trump.

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Reply #18 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:05pm

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:01pm:

So this:

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They had a plan in Israel to evict the Palastinians into the Sinai desert.

meant Egypt, not Southern Israel?

yeah.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/intelligence-ministry-concept-paper-proposes-transferring-gazans-to-egypts-sinai/

From their own paper.

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Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever.
Reply #19 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 1:07pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 12:54pm:

This is it. This could be the defining moment for us the West.

If the USA is going to take over Gaza, and 'move' all the 2 million Gazan out. It would be like... ethnically cleansing the Jews in WW2 all over again. Now, lets assume that it is going to happen. So IF it happens, it will cost the US in the magnitude of hundreds of billions of dollars. The US alone will not have the man power to move 2 million people. So there will be killings and murders of innocent civilian to achieve this purpose. Furthermore... Australia will probably have to help out this ethnic cleansing. This will then lead to another neverending war in the middle east.

Bunker down boys and girls. We are in for a VERY rough ride.

Yep, it's ethic cleansing pure & simple.

Many more children are going to be murdered, thanks to Trump.

And then he'll build his rat-infested hotels and third-rate casinos on top of their graves.

Bullshit -
Trump is gonna build each Pally family a nice house with a swimming pool
and air conditioning - somewhere else.
They can't stay where they are now - it's not safe -
there are buildings about to collapse -
there are unexploded bombs everywhere - Trump said.

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Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever.
Reply #20 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 1:07pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 12:54pm:

This is it. This could be the defining moment for us the West.

If the USA is going to take over Gaza, and 'move' all the 2 million Gazan out. It would be like... ethnically cleansing the Jews in WW2 all over again. Now, lets assume that it is going to happen. So IF it happens, it will cost the US in the magnitude of hundreds of billions of dollars. The US alone will not have the man power to move 2 million people. So there will be killings and murders of innocent civilian to achieve this purpose. Furthermore... Australia will probably have to help out this ethnic cleansing. This will then lead to another neverending war in the middle east.

Bunker down boys and girls. We are in for a VERY rough ride.

Yep, it's ethic cleansing pure & simple.

Many more children are going to be murdered, thanks to Trump.

And then he'll build his rat-infested hotels and third-rate casinos on top of their graves.

Bullshit -
Trump is gonna build each Pally family a nice house with a swimming pool
and air conditioning - somewhere else.
They can't stay where they are now - it's not safe -
there are buildings about to collapse -
there are unexploded bombs everywhere - Trump said.

Bobby you always make me smile.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75137 Gender:	Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever. Reply #21 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:24pm Trump towers will be the first new building in gaza
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75137 Gender:	Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever. Reply #22 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:24pm this is another stupid thought bubble by Trump.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139350 Gender:	Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever. Reply #23 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:25pm John Smith wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:24pm: this is another stupid thought bubble by Trump. Yeah. All talk, no action. He always backs down.
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Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever.
Reply #24 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:31pm

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 1:07pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 12:54pm:

This is it. This could be the defining moment for us the West.

If the USA is going to take over Gaza, and 'move' all the 2 million Gazan out. It would be like... ethnically cleansing the Jews in WW2 all over again. Now, lets assume that it is going to happen. So IF it happens, it will cost the US in the magnitude of hundreds of billions of dollars. The US alone will not have the man power to move 2 million people. So there will be killings and murders of innocent civilian to achieve this purpose. Furthermore... Australia will probably have to help out this ethnic cleansing. This will then lead to another neverending war in the middle east.

Bunker down boys and girls. We are in for a VERY rough ride.

Yep, it's ethic cleansing pure & simple.

Many more children are going to be murdered, thanks to Trump.

And then he'll build his rat-infested hotels and third-rate casinos on top of their graves.

Bullshit -
Trump is gonna build each Pally family a nice house with a swimming pool
and air conditioning - somewhere else.
They can't stay where they are now - it's not safe -
there are buildings about to collapse -
there are unexploded bombs everywhere - Trump said.

Bobby you always make me smile.

Glad I can make your day.

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Reply #25 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:47pm

So after 60 years, hundreds of politicians, heaps of ceasefire and here we are.

The killings keep on going and the response is, let's keep doing what we have been doing for the last 60 years and see if we get a different result.

At least Trump knows something different than what they have been doing for the last 60 years has to happen.

I'm sick f people saying we should try something that has failed for 60 years.

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Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever.
Reply #26 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 3:23pm

Leroy wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:47pm:

So after 60 years, hundreds of politicians, heaps of ceasefire and here we are.

The killings keep on going and the response is, let's keep doing what we have been doing for the last 60 years and see if we get a different result.

At least Trump knows something different than what they have been doing for the last 60 years has to happen.

I'm sick f people saying we should try something that has failed for 60 years.

the killing etc has been because they kicked the palestinians out of their homes to start with. ... only an idiot would think repeating the process will solve anything. Congrats, you qualify

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Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever.
Reply #27 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 3:27pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 3:23pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:47pm:

So after 60 years, hundreds of politicians, heaps of ceasefire and here we are.

The killings keep on going and the response is, let's keep doing what we have been doing for the last 60 years and see if we get a different result.

At least Trump knows something different than what they have been doing for the last 60 years has to happen.

I'm sick f people saying we should try something that has failed for 60 years.

the killing etc has been because they kicked the palestinians out of their homes to start with. ... only an idiot would think repeating the process will solve anything. Congrats, you qualify

So you want to keep going down the same path, and in 50 years you grand children can call my grandchildren idiots because something different has to be done.

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Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever.
Reply #28 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 3:28pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 3:23pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 2:47pm:

So after 60 years, hundreds of politicians, heaps of ceasefire and here we are.

The killings keep on going and the response is, let's keep doing what we have been doing for the last 60 years and see if we get a different result.

At least Trump knows something different than what they have been doing for the last 60 years has to happen.

I'm sick f people saying we should try something that has failed for 60 years.

the killing etc has been because they kicked the palestinians out of their homes to start with. ... only an idiot would think repeating the process will solve anything. Congrats, you qualify

Actually, neighbouring Muslims states were the biggest contributors, by ethnically cleansing all or most of their Jewish citizens - many of whom fled to Israel. The same nearby states who refuse to accept any Palestinian refugees - because their plan was always to wipe out the Jews once and for all.

The Jews would be happy to live in peace with the Palestinians. They do, to a large extent. It's the Palestinians who find peace unacceptable and who repeatedly break it. If they want to have their buildings levelled over and over again, the Israelis will no doubt oblige.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75137 Gender:	Re: Palestinians to be moved out of Gaza for ever. Reply #29 - Feb 5^th, 2025 at 3:48pm freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2025 at 3:28pm: The Jews would be happy to live in peace with the Palestinians. They do, to a large extent if you ignore all the ones the Palestinians killed and all the occupied territories
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