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PBS interviewer is handed his chops, by GOP Sen Johnson
A GREAT INTERVIEW TO WATCH GREAT QUESTIONS........AND GREAT REBUTTALS by GOP Sen Johnson ......in an 8 minute interview.The PBS interviewer asks.....is there going to be any oversight of this 'destruction' of Federal government agencies ? "You have had capture of our federal agencies by corporate interests, whether it's big pharma or big food processing or big agriculture." - GOP Sen Johnson VIDEO AND PART OF VIDEO TRANSCRIPT BELOWOn PBS today....... GOP Sen. Johnson says Musk dismantling of USAID is 'just the tip of the iceberg' 08 minFeb 5, 2025 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cioYHGrWCg . PART OF TRANSCRIPT [off YT site] Quote: 2:26 GEOFF BENNETT: What actual ability would the Senate have to oversee or rein in HHS if that's what's needed beyond what has been done in the past?
2:35 SEN. RON JOHNSON: Well, again, all I'm looking for -- all I have ever looked for is total transparency. Follow the science. And, unfortunately, I believe science has been corrupted. You have had capture of our federal agencies by corporate interests, whether it's big pharma or big food processing or big agriculture. I think that's also pretty much indisputable. So what we need is, we need total transparency. We need to uncorrupt science. When >> YOU << pay for science, you get the result >> YOU << want. And that's not in the public's best interest. So, for my standpoint, it starts with making sure that science has integrity, that peer review actually means something, that we're also willing to take a look at observational studies and other forms of evidence, but that we have an open mind toward these things. That's all I'm looking for. That's all I think that RFK Jr. is looking for.
3:25 GEOFF BENNETT: Big picture, how do you and other Republican lawmakers view your role in this moment as you lead what is a co-equal branch of government? And I ask the question because, as we sit here and speak, Elon Musk is unilaterally dismantling the foreign aid agency USAID. He now has access to sensitive government payment systems, with no public concern, no public constraint from Republicans in Congress, whom the American people actually elected to run this government. Why not?
3:54 SEN. RON JOHNSON: Well, first of all, we have people in these agencies that
believe they're completely unaccountable to the American public.
They have stiff-armed me as I have written multiple requests for information for multiple agencies. Secretary of State Rubio basically made the same claim against USAID. So you already have bureaucrats run amuck who don't believe they're accountable.
What President Trump is doing is, he's fulfilling a promise. He's trying to get the bottom of this, of the waste, fraud and abuse of the federal government that is right now completely out of control. So I appreciate Elon Musk's endeavors. He's a genius in terms of squeezing out all his money inefficiencies from the businesses he's run. And he's like the perfect guy putting types of people who have access to computer models and A.I. to quickly diagnose what inefficiencies are occurring in these agencies. And let's face it. USAID is just the tip of the iceberg.
4:52 GEOFF BENNETT: But if there's a debate about USAID's mission or funding, why not have that debate? There is a process for that, a legal process to have that debate.
5:01 SEN. RON JOHNSON: We will have that debate. First, we need the information. And you can't get the information when you have these bureaucrats who are protecting the information and not turning it over to Congress or over to the elected president. It's undeniable that you had bureaucrats in the first Trump term that undermined and sabotaged his administration. He's trying not to let that happen again. I applaud his swift and decisive actions.
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