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Re: Far-Left Politico On USAID Payroll - its Finished!
Reply #15 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:25am

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:15am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:07am:

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 10:50am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 10:44am:

You do realise the soft control these aid programs gives the US and the influence this gives them in these regions will go away right?

More wars and military conflicts under Trump?

Yay?

Wait....

Yeah I think that what it is about. You can't pay other countries to do the right thing, because paying other countries to do anything is bad even if its good. It introduces corruption because the act itself is corrupt. History tells us when you distribute aid very little gets to the people that the aid is intended for. It creates another layer of bureaucracy to countries rife with bureaucratic corruption.

You can't keep doing the same crap and expecting things to be better.

We were endlessly lectured that Trump would be the great anti-war candidate, the only one standing between us and the apocalypse Harris would supposedly unleash with WW3.

Yet, in just two weeks, he is trying to systematically dismantle every diplomatic tool the US once had, alienated allies, failed his grandiose promise to end the war in Ukraine "on day one," and is now openly fantasising about annexing Canada and occupying Gaza. Even his harshest critics underestimated how reckless he'd be.

We knew he'd be pro-Trade Wars, but we didn't expect him to back down and fold in such a humiliating way. But actual war..?

So where are the self-proclaimed anti-war crusaders, Bobby, the rest of the cheer squad, who swore Trump would be our shield against global conflict? Why the deafening silence, or worse, the outright applause for his warmongering?

It's almost as if there's

some sort of syndrome at play

, one that compels people to abandon their principles and their beliefs, twist themselves into ideological pretzels, and cheer for Trump no matter how catastrophically he betrays their supposed beliefs or his pledges to them.

Curious, isn't it?

I think you nailed it.

You got triggered the last time I mentioned Trump has always been a master of political double-dealing, telling one audience exactly what they want to hear while assuring another group of the opposite. It’s a con that only works if people are either too gullible to notice, too fanatically loyal to care or are afflicted by some unknown syndrome.

And, time and again, his base has proven to be all of the above.

What we’re seeing now is yet another instance of his real agenda playing out, in real-time, not the rhetoric from his rallies, but the quiet promises made behind closed doors to those who actually pull the strings. The voters who hung on his every word? They were never more than useful props.

This latest revelation should be setting off alarm bells for his supporters, but instead, they’re applauding as he tramples over the very promises they once claimed to care about.

Perhaps it was never about ending wars, after all, just about cheering for their side, no matter the cost.

That's another symptom to tick off the checklist for this possible syndrome...

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Reply #16 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:34am

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:22am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:10am:

all of this will come back to bite trump in the arse ... but the morons on here will blame biden Cheesy

Would it upset you if Trump had success John?.

At this point, the grim reality is that we need Trump to succeed, not for his sake, nor for the sake of those who blindly enabled him, but because the alternative is global instability on a scale we can scarcely afford.

Markets, international relations, and the delicate balance of power all hang in the balance, and his failure would send shockwaves far beyond the borders of the United States.

The true danger isn’t just his incompetence; it’s the fact that he has systematically dismantled the checks and balances meant to contain him, replacing them with sycophants who will enable his every whim. He is erratic, woefully uninformed, and utterly unconcerned with the consequences of his actions. That kind of power, unrestrained, is nothing short of terrifying.

In a just world, the consequences of Trump’s governance would be borne solely by those who cheered it on. But that’s not how reality works. The damage won’t be confined to his base, it will spill over into every corner of the globe.

So, as bitter a pill as it is to swallow, we must hope for his success. Not for him. Not for them. But for all of us.

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Reply #17 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:39am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:34am:

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:22am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:10am:

all of this will come back to bite trump in the arse ... but the morons on here will blame biden Cheesy

Would it upset you if Trump had success John?.

At this point, the grim reality is that we need Trump to succeed, not for his sake, nor for the sake of those who blindly enabled him, but because the alternative is global instability on a scale we can scarcely afford.

Markets, international relations, and the delicate balance of power all hang in the balance, and his failure would send shockwaves far beyond the borders of the United States.

The true danger isn’t just his incompetence; it’s the fact that he has systematically dismantled the checks and balances meant to contain him, replacing them with sycophants who will enable his every whim. He is erratic, woefully uninformed, and utterly unconcerned with the consequences of his actions. That kind of power, unrestrained, is nothing short of terrifying.

In a just world, the consequences of Trump’s governance would be borne solely by those who cheered it on. But that’s not how reality works. The damage won’t be confined to his base, it will spill over into every corner of the globe.

So, as bitter a pill as it is to swallow, we must hope for his success. Not for him. Not for them. But for all of us.

You ARE totally unmoored, pal, ready for a hysterectomy. Roll Eyes

Do tell us what checks and balances has Trump systematically dismantled.

Tell us what kind of new unrestrained powers he has that no president had before him.

Go on.

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Re: Far-Left Politico On USAID Payroll - its Finished!
Reply #18 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:48am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:34am:

At this point, the grim reality is that we need Trump to succeed, not for his sake, nor for the sake of those who blindly enabled him, but because the alternative is global instability on a scale we can scarcely afford.

Markets, international relations, and the delicate balance of power all hang in the balance, and his failure would send shockwaves far beyond the borders of the United States.

The true danger isn’t just his incompetence; it’s the fact that he has systematically dismantled the checks and balances meant to contain him, replacing them with sycophants who will enable his every whim. He is erratic, woefully uninformed, and utterly unconcerned with the consequences of his actions. That kind of power, unrestrained, is nothing short of terrifying.

In a just world, the consequences of Trump’s governance would be borne solely by those who cheered it on. But that’s not how reality works. The damage won’t be confined to his base, it will spill over into every corner of the globe.

So, as bitter a pill as it is to swallow, we must hope for his success. Not for him. Not for them. But

for all of us

.

This is quite a stance, you find yourself hoping they fail but hoping for success. Why would you hope someone fails?.

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Re: Far-Left Politico On USAID Payroll - its Finished!
Reply #19 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:01pm

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:39am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:34am:

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:22am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:10am:

all of this will come back to bite trump in the arse ... but the morons on here will blame biden Cheesy

Would it upset you if Trump had success John?.

At this point, the grim reality is that we need Trump to succeed, not for his sake, nor for the sake of those who blindly enabled him, but because the alternative is global instability on a scale we can scarcely afford.

Markets, international relations, and the delicate balance of power all hang in the balance, and his failure would send shockwaves far beyond the borders of the United States.

The true danger isn’t just his incompetence; it’s the fact that he has systematically dismantled the checks and balances meant to contain him, replacing them with sycophants who will enable his every whim. He is erratic, woefully uninformed, and utterly unconcerned with the consequences of his actions. That kind of power, unrestrained, is nothing short of terrifying.

In a just world, the consequences of Trump’s governance would be borne solely by those who cheered it on. But that’s not how reality works. The damage won’t be confined to his base, it will spill over into every corner of the globe.

So, as bitter a pill as it is to swallow, we must hope for his success. Not for him. Not for them. But for all of us.

You ARE totally unmoored, pal, ready for a hysterectomy. Roll Eyes

Do tell us what checks and balances has Trump systematically dismantled.

Tell us what kind of new unrestrained powers he has that no president had before him.

Go on.

What’s the point?

You’ve already decided he isn’t, so no matter what I say, you’ll dismiss it, just like every other post I make. There’s no real discussion here, just you ignoring what doesn’t fit your view while making endless demands of everyone else.

There’s no point engaging with you because you refuse to act in good faith. You don’t refute arguments, you ignore them. You don’t debate, you dismiss. You don’t respect differing views, you sneer at them.

So really, why bother? If all you want is an echo chamber where disagreement is met with contempt rather than discussion, just say so. At least then we can stop pretending this was ever a real conversation.

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Re: Far-Left Politico On USAID Payroll - its Finished!
Reply #20 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:05pm

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:48am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:34am:

At this point, the grim reality is that we need Trump to succeed, not for his sake, nor for the sake of those who blindly enabled him, but because the alternative is global instability on a scale we can scarcely afford.

Markets, international relations, and the delicate balance of power all hang in the balance, and his failure would send shockwaves far beyond the borders of the United States.

The true danger isn’t just his incompetence; it’s the fact that he has systematically dismantled the checks and balances meant to contain him, replacing them with sycophants who will enable his every whim. He is erratic, woefully uninformed, and utterly unconcerned with the consequences of his actions. That kind of power, unrestrained, is nothing short of terrifying.

In a just world, the consequences of Trump’s governance would be borne solely by those who cheered it on. But that’s not how reality works. The damage won’t be confined to his base, it will spill over into every corner of the globe.

So, as bitter a pill as it is to swallow, we must hope for his success. Not for him. Not for them. But

for all of us

.

This is quite a stance, you find yourself hoping they fail but hoping for success. Why would you hope someone fails?.

I literally said the opposite of that...

He needs to succeed because the cost of his failing is too high, and it will be paid by all of us, not just him or his supporters.

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Reply #21 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:08pm

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:05pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:48am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:34am:

At this point, the grim reality is that we need Trump to succeed, not for his sake, nor for the sake of those who blindly enabled him, but because the alternative is global instability on a scale we can scarcely afford.

Markets, international relations, and the delicate balance of power all hang in the balance, and his failure would send shockwaves far beyond the borders of the United States.

The true danger isn’t just his incompetence; it’s the fact that he has systematically dismantled the checks and balances meant to contain him, replacing them with sycophants who will enable his every whim. He is erratic, woefully uninformed, and utterly unconcerned with the consequences of his actions. That kind of power, unrestrained, is nothing short of terrifying.

In a just world, the consequences of Trump’s governance would be borne solely by those who cheered it on. But that’s not how reality works. The damage won’t be confined to his base, it will spill over into every corner of the globe.

So, as bitter a pill as it is to swallow, we must hope for his success. Not for him. Not for them. But

for all of us

.

This is quite a stance, you find yourself hoping they fail but hoping for success. Why would you hope someone fails?.

I literally said the opposite of that...

He needs to succeed because the cost of his failing is too high, and it will be paid by all of us, not just him or his supporters.

So you wish Trump success then?.

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Reply #22 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:36pm

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:01pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:39am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:34am:

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:22am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:10am:

all of this will come back to bite trump in the arse ... but the morons on here will blame biden Cheesy

Would it upset you if Trump had success John?.

At this point, the grim reality is that we need Trump to succeed, not for his sake, nor for the sake of those who blindly enabled him, but because the alternative is global instability on a scale we can scarcely afford.

Markets, international relations, and the delicate balance of power all hang in the balance, and his failure would send shockwaves far beyond the borders of the United States.

The true danger isn’t just his incompetence; it’s the fact that he has systematically dismantled the checks and balances meant to contain him, replacing them with sycophants who will enable his every whim. He is erratic, woefully uninformed, and utterly unconcerned with the consequences of his actions. That kind of power, unrestrained, is nothing short of terrifying.

In a just world, the consequences of Trump’s governance would be borne solely by those who cheered it on. But that’s not how reality works. The damage won’t be confined to his base, it will spill over into every corner of the globe.

So, as bitter a pill as it is to swallow, we must hope for his success. Not for him. Not for them. But for all of us.

You ARE totally unmoored, pal, ready for a hysterectomy. Roll Eyes

Do tell us what checks and balances has Trump systematically dismantled.

Tell us what kind of new unrestrained powers he has that no president had before him.

Go on.

What’s the point?

You’ve already decided he isn’t, so no matter what I say, you’ll dismiss it, just like every other post I make. There’s no real discussion here, just you ignoring what doesn’t fit your view while making endless demands of everyone else.

There’s no point engaging with you because you refuse to act in good faith. You don’t refute arguments, you ignore them. You don’t debate, you dismiss. You don’t respect differing views, you sneer at them.

So really, why bother? If all you want is an echo chamber where disagreement is met with contempt rather than discussion, just say so. At least then we can stop pretending this was ever a real conversation.

Stupid, lying bollocks. You asserted, I ask for the basis of your assertion:

Do tell us what checks and balances has Trump systematically dismantled.

Tell us what kind of new unrestrained powers he has that no president had before him.

You run like a little long-winded retard. "No point to back up assertion with evidence".
Retarded, stupid faggotry. (Can I say that?)

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Re: Far-Left Politico On USAID Payroll - its Finished!
Reply #24 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:41pm

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:08pm:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:05pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:48am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:34am:

At this point, the grim reality is that we need Trump to succeed, not for his sake, nor for the sake of those who blindly enabled him, but because the alternative is global instability on a scale we can scarcely afford.

Markets, international relations, and the delicate balance of power all hang in the balance, and his failure would send shockwaves far beyond the borders of the United States.

The true danger isn’t just his incompetence; it’s the fact that he has systematically dismantled the checks and balances meant to contain him, replacing them with sycophants who will enable his every whim. He is erratic, woefully uninformed, and utterly unconcerned with the consequences of his actions. That kind of power, unrestrained, is nothing short of terrifying.

In a just world, the consequences of Trump’s governance would be borne solely by those who cheered it on. But that’s not how reality works. The damage won’t be confined to his base, it will spill over into every corner of the globe.

So, as bitter a pill as it is to swallow, we must hope for his success. Not for him. Not for them. But

for all of us

.

This is quite a stance, you find yourself hoping they fail but hoping for success. Why would you hope someone fails?.

I literally said the opposite of that...

He needs to succeed because the cost of his failing is too high, and it will be paid by all of us, not just him or his supporters.

So you wish Trump success then?.

Yes, but not for his sake, for the rest of us. The cost of his failure is simply too high.

And by failure, I don’t mean an inability to implement his agenda in its purest form, I doubt even he expects to do that and with all the lies he told and conflicting info that's impossible anyway.

I mean failing to deliver on the promises that actually matter: improving the cost of living, revitalising local manufacturing, and securing better wages, healthcare, and education for Americans.

If he can’t make good on those, the country will suffer, and the consequences will ripple far beyond US borders.

He needs to succeed, not for his ego, not for his base, but because the alternative is a destabilised America dragging the rest of us down with it. The US is too big to fail, but tragically, that’s never stopped Trump before.

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Re: Far-Left Politico On USAID Payroll - its Finished!
Reply #25 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:46pm

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:41pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:08pm:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:05pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:48am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 11:34am:

At this point, the grim reality is that we need Trump to succeed, not for his sake, nor for the sake of those who blindly enabled him, but because the alternative is global instability on a scale we can scarcely afford.

Markets, international relations, and the delicate balance of power all hang in the balance, and his failure would send shockwaves far beyond the borders of the United States.

The true danger isn’t just his incompetence; it’s the fact that he has systematically dismantled the checks and balances meant to contain him, replacing them with sycophants who will enable his every whim. He is erratic, woefully uninformed, and utterly unconcerned with the consequences of his actions. That kind of power, unrestrained, is nothing short of terrifying.

In a just world, the consequences of Trump’s governance would be borne solely by those who cheered it on. But that’s not how reality works. The damage won’t be confined to his base, it will spill over into every corner of the globe.

So, as bitter a pill as it is to swallow, we must hope for his success. Not for him. Not for them. But

for all of us

.

This is quite a stance, you find yourself hoping they fail but hoping for success. Why would you hope someone fails?.

I literally said the opposite of that...

He needs to succeed because the cost of his failing is too high, and it will be paid by all of us, not just him or his supporters.

So you wish Trump success then?.

Yes, but not for his sake, for the rest of us. The cost of his failure is simply too high.

And by failure, I don’t mean an inability to implement his agenda in its purest form, I doubt even he expects to do that and with all the lies he told and conflicting info that's impossible anyway.

I mean failing to deliver on the promises that actually matter: improving the cost of living, revitalising local manufacturing, and securing better wages, healthcare, and education for Americans.

If he can’t make good on those, the country will suffer, and the consequences will ripple far beyond US borders.

He needs to succeed, not for his ego, not for his base, but because the alternative is a destabilised America dragging the rest of us down with it. The US is too big to fail, but tragically, that’s never stopped Trump before.

So what tragedy is Trump responsible for?.

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Re: Far-Left Politico On USAID Payroll - its Finished!
Reply #26 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 1:57pm

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:46pm:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:41pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:08pm:

So you wish Trump success then?.

Yes, but not for his sake, for the rest of us. The cost of his failure is simply too high.

And by failure, I don’t mean an inability to implement his agenda in its purest form, I doubt even he expects to do that and with all the lies he told and conflicting info that's impossible anyway.

I mean failing to deliver on the promises that actually matter: improving the cost of living, revitalising local manufacturing, and securing better wages, healthcare, and education for Americans.

If he can’t make good on those, the country will suffer, and the consequences will ripple far beyond US borders.

He needs to succeed, not for his ego, not for his base, but because the alternative is a destabilised America dragging the rest of us down with it. The US is too big to fail, but tragically, that’s never stopped Trump before.

So what tragedy is Trump responsible for?.

Oh, I never said he was.

The US is too big to fail. The size of some of Trump's business ventures has not stopped him from failing, even when there is a metaphorical license to print money, like a Casino, but he still failed there.

Tragically, someone with such a large number of failed and bankrupt businesses under their watch is now leading the US again.

We've already seen him risk a recession when using the tariffs as bargaining chips in a trade war with his allies to achieve... Nothing.

And now everyone knows how weak he is at the negotiating table.

The risk of him not succeeding, especially since he's no longer in his prime and is more interested in ruling rather than leading, that risk is higher than most people are comfortable with.

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Reply #27 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 2:06pm

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 1:57pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:46pm:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:41pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:08pm:

So you wish Trump success then?.

Yes, but not for his sake, for the rest of us. The cost of his failure is simply too high.

And by failure, I don’t mean an inability to implement his agenda in its purest form, I doubt even he expects to do that and with all the lies he told and conflicting info that's impossible anyway.

I mean failing to deliver on the promises that actually matter: improving the cost of living, revitalising local manufacturing, and securing better wages, healthcare, and education for Americans.

If he can’t make good on those, the country will suffer, and the consequences will ripple far beyond US borders.

He needs to succeed, not for his ego, not for his base, but because the alternative is a destabilised America dragging the rest of us down with it. The US is too big to fail, but tragically, that’s never stopped Trump before.

So what tragedy is Trump responsible for?.

Oh, I never said he was.

The US is too big to fail. The size of some of Trump's business ventures has not stopped him from failing, even when there is a metaphorical license to print money, like a Casino, but he still failed there.

Tragically, someone with such a large number of failed and bankrupt businesses under their watch is now leading the US again.

We've already seen him risk a recession when using the tariffs as bargaining chips in a trade war with his allies to achieve... Nothing.

And now everyone knows how weak he is at the negotiating table.

The risk of him not succeeding, especially since he's no longer in his prime and is more interested in ruling rather than leading, that risk is higher than most people are comfortable with.

You are watching a channel only you can see, pal.

tragically, Cry

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Reply #28 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 2:28pm

Frank wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 2:06pm:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 1:57pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:46pm:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:41pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:08pm:

So you wish Trump success then?.

Yes, but not for his sake, for the rest of us. The cost of his failure is simply too high.

And by failure, I don’t mean an inability to implement his agenda in its purest form, I doubt even he expects to do that and with all the lies he told and conflicting info that's impossible anyway.

I mean failing to deliver on the promises that actually matter: improving the cost of living, revitalising local manufacturing, and securing better wages, healthcare, and education for Americans.

If he can’t make good on those, the country will suffer, and the consequences will ripple far beyond US borders.

He needs to succeed, not for his ego, not for his base, but because the alternative is a destabilised America dragging the rest of us down with it. The US is too big to fail, but tragically, that’s never stopped Trump before.

So what tragedy is Trump responsible for?.

Oh, I never said he was.

The US is too big to fail. The size of some of Trump's business ventures has not stopped him from failing, even when there is a metaphorical license to print money, like a Casino, but he still failed there.

Tragically, someone with such a large number of failed and bankrupt businesses under their watch is now leading the US again.

We've already seen him risk a recession when using the tariffs as bargaining chips in a trade war with his allies to achieve... Nothing.

And now everyone knows how weak he is at the negotiating table.

The risk of him not succeeding, especially since he's no longer in his prime and is more interested in ruling rather than leading, that risk is higher than most people are comfortable with.

You are watching a channel only you can see, pal.

tragically, Cry

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