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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 49572 Gender:	Re: Can the courts stop Musk and Trump Reply #30 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 11:42am Poor Peccary. No-one posting in his topic of the same title in his board. What a white flag.
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Reply #31 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 11:53am

Jasin wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 11:42am:

Poor Peccary. No-one posting in his topic of the same title in his board. What a white flag.

Gregg was hoping some would think it was the American board and post on his board and giving him the ability to ban them.

I can't think of any other reason you would post that topic on that board.

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Reply #32 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 12:01pm

Leroy wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 11:42am:

You do know he is the richest person in the world, to give you an example lets say you earn $200,000 a year in a normal job.

Musk just in interest @8% earns $36,000,000,000 a year, or to give it terms you may understand he makes $690,000,000 dollars a week for just having the money.

and ? you don't think that because he earns that, he doesn't care if he makes money with his companies, do you? Cheesy

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Reply #33 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 12:12pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 12:01pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 11:42am:

You do know he is the richest person in the world, to give you an example lets say you earn $200,000 a year in a normal job.

Musk just in interest @8% earns $36,000,000,000 a year, or to give it terms you may understand he makes $690,000,000 dollars a week for just having the money.

and ? you don't think that because he earns that, he doesn't care if he makes money with his companies, do you? Cheesy

Oh he earns it, he has the ability to see a bigger picture than us thats why he is so smart. Some are stuck with only what they know and can't change even if its for the better. Musk has the ability to see much more than we can, he is one step ahead of everyone else.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75137 Gender:	Re: Can the courts stop Musk and Trump Reply #34 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 12:34pm you didn't answer the question. Do you think Musk doesn't care if no one buys his cars? Don't be scared
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Reply #35 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 1:32pm

Leroy wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 11:29am:

scope wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 11:22am:

Leroy wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 9:56am:

scope wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 9:55am:

Leroy wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 9:28am:

scope wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 9:23am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 9:04am:

imtheone wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 6:45am:

The US judges cannot prevent an EO from the president, its just bluff, a distraction from the carnage that Musk and Trump are properly doing.

Musk says that he'll cut almost 2 trillion in waste, corruption and fraud. Good luck!

The George Soros owned activist Judges are acting unconstitutionally — their decisions will be overturned - - and then they’ll be impeached and sacked

I have a question for you bozos.
Who is investigating musk?

He receives around $8 million a day from gov contracts.
Musk sacked 5 inspector generals who were investigating various aspects of his business contracts and safety of his tesla products .

After he sacked those 5, does that mean his companies have zero accountability for those millions he gets from US taxpayers?

They replace the inspectors with people that are not politically compromised.

You have to deal with the fact that Trump is president and he can appoint whoever he likes to whatever positions he wants. I know you don't like it but that is how it is. Biden did the same, Obama did the same, Clinton did the same its just what new presidents do, screaming and crying won't change anything.

Nice story,but its bs.
Those 15 inspector generals that were fired, most were appointed by trump.

Just more lies upon lies from trump and his sheep.

This is what Trump is correcting, people he put into positions turned out to be politically motivated and he is rectifying that. Don't see what the problem is.

Just keep making up lies leroy.

Where's your proof?
You wont have any, just like the proof of corruption and fraud at USAID non exsistant.

Keep telling yourself that.

So as expected no proof from leroy, just continue telling those lies leroy, at least you will earn some money today.

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Re: Can the courts stop Musk and Trump
Reply #36 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 1:35pm

Leroy wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 11:42am:

scope wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 11:31am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 11:02am:

Leroy wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 10:57am:

Carl D wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 10:50am:

Yes, funny how that works.

https://x.com/RBReich/status/1889705008658083999

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When Trump was sworn in, Elon Musk's corporations were under more than 32 investigations conducted by at least 11 federal agencies.

Most of the cases are now closed or likely to be closed soon, and the federal agencies are being defanged by DOGE.

Funny how that works, huh?

Funny, but not surprising.

He had two choices, bow to the dems and disavow Trump and just make big donations to the dems and all his law problems will disappear or he could tell them to get stuffed. Being rich enough he told the to get stuffed.

Pretty much how I read it

Musk has. Yet again. Backed a winner
Glad to have him on board
His control of X is part of the win/win strategy of the noble conservatives.

The road back for the left is long and hard.

Can they walk the narrow road to success?
Or are they too soft Grin

Yea such a winner, that would explain why tesla sales in France, are down 63% this year.
Germany 60% drop in sales , basically all of Europe has given the finger to musk over his political affiliations .

Its not surprising that once again you are wrong.

You do know he is the richest person in the world, to give you an example lets say you earn $200,000 a year in a normal job.

Musk just in interest @8% earns $36,000,000,000 a year, or to give it terms you may understand he makes $690,000,000 dollars a week for just having the money.

Another thickhead magamoron.
Tell that to tesla investers leroy, Grin

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Reply #37 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 2:26pm

Leroy wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 11:53am:

Jasin wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 11:42am:

Poor Peccary. No-one posting in his topic of the same title in his board. What a white flag.

Gregg was hoping some would think it was the American board and post on his board and giving him the ability to ban them.

I can't think of any other reason you would post that topic on that board.

He's a forum loser Troll.
Just like his gronk bro in Mimo Guido Smith chips

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Re: Can the courts stop Musk and Trump
Reply #38 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 2:28pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 9:39pm:

Biden ignored the Supreme court with cutting student debt were there any consequences?

Oh sweetheart, nice try.

The US Supreme Court struck down his initial broad forgiveness plan in June 2023 (Biden v. Nebraska).

Biden did not outright "ignore" the Supreme Court...

Instead, he pursued alternative legal avenues to achieve student debt relief. Rather than defying the Court as Trump has done, Biden shifted to established legal frameworks, namely, the Higher Education Act (HEA) and expanded existing programs the Court didn’t block.

This allowed him to continue providing student debt relief within the law, without engaging in outright defiance.

Meanwhile, Trump outright ignored a court order. The two cases are not remotely the same, and as usual, you already know that, but your TDS compels you to keep grasping at straws to defend the indefensible.

The so-called "Rule of Law" president has once again shown that the law doesn't matter when it inconveniences him, something we’ve known all along. This isn’t a new revelation.

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Re: Can the courts stop Musk and Trump
Reply #39 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 2:32pm

imtheone wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 6:45am:

The US judges cannot prevent an EO from the president, its just bluff, a distraction from the carnage that Musk and Trump are properly doing.

Musk says that he'll cut almost 2 trillion in waste, corruption and fraud. Good luck!

Trump did not have the legal jurisdiction to unilaterally freeze government payments that had been approved by Congress.

The US Constitution gives Congress the "power of the purse," meaning that only Congress has the authority to allocate and approve government spending.

The Federal Judge was upholding the law and the constitution.

It just happens this has had to be done against the President...

If you don't like that, take it up with Trump. And if you don't direct your anger towards him, then it means you agree with, given his actions, that the constitution is meaningless.

Goodbye 2nd amendment.

I could go into more detail, but you're just a new troll account, so, as they say, "do your own research" champ.

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Re: Can the courts stop Musk and Trump
Reply #40 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 2:33pm

Frank wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 8:50am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 11:08pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 9:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 9:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 9:39pm:

Biden ignored the Supreme court with cutting student debt were there any consequences?

Sad thing is the dems are going to waste millions in court trying to hamstring the president the people voted in. Even if they win in court at the taxpayers expense it will also prevent the taxpayers from getting the benefits of the changes.

Sad all round, the left have just lost the plot.

The DOJ aren't likely to prosecute a sitting president.
The democrats don't have the numbers to impeach.

The first court case locking Trumps team and treasury secretary out of treasury is unconstitutional.
The judge will get slapped down by SCOTUS.

Who gets to decide policy in the US?
Is it the President who campaigned with this won house senate and popular vote.
Is it some unelected bureacrat with an activist judge

Baron missed the first name in the thread title.

Easy to miss. South African billionaires are rather forgettable, aren't they?

Musk is AUTHORISED by Trump, paki.

authorise, verb
give official permission for or approval to an undertaking or agent.

Musk and Trump still have to work within the Constitution and the Law.

It's literally in black and white. Rule of law? I thought that was important?

Not anymore?

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 49572 Gender:	Re: Can the courts stop Musk and Trump Reply #41 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 2:35pm American Law is corrupt. It only caters to $$$$ So expect Trump to make headway
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Re: Can the courts stop Musk and Trump
Reply #42 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 2:42pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 2:35pm:

American Law is corrupt.
It only caters to $$$$
So expect Trump to make headway

Is that really your defence now?

Wow...

For years, you and many like you have been quick to jump on the bandwagon every time an American from a minority background was needlessly killed by the police, all while trying to paint them as criminals who deserved it, telling us they should have just "followed the law."

But now, when Trump takes actions that are in clear violation of the law, your response isn’t “Follow the Law,” it’s “The law is corrupt.”

Surely you jest?

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Reply #43 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 8:18pm

KangAnon wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 2:33pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 8:50am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 11:08pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 9:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 9:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 9:39pm:

Biden ignored the Supreme court with cutting student debt were there any consequences?

Sad thing is the dems are going to waste millions in court trying to hamstring the president the people voted in. Even if they win in court at the taxpayers expense it will also prevent the taxpayers from getting the benefits of the changes.

Sad all round, the left have just lost the plot.

The DOJ aren't likely to prosecute a sitting president.
The democrats don't have the numbers to impeach.

The first court case locking Trumps team and treasury secretary out of treasury is unconstitutional.
The judge will get slapped down by SCOTUS.

Who gets to decide policy in the US?
Is it the President who campaigned with this won house senate and popular vote.
Is it some unelected bureacrat with an activist judge

Baron missed the first name in the thread title.

Easy to miss. South African billionaires are rather forgettable, aren't they?

Musk is AUTHORISED by Trump, paki.

authorise, verb
give official permission for or approval to an undertaking or agent.

Musk and Trump still have to work within the Constitution and the Law.

It's literally in black and white. Rule of law? I thought that was important?

Not anymore?

They are working lawfully.

What laws have been broken?

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Re: Can the courts stop Musk and Trump
Reply #44 - Feb 13^th, 2025 at 8:43pm

Frank wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 8:18pm:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 2:33pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 8:50am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 11:08pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 9:53pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 9:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 9:39pm:

Biden ignored the Supreme court with cutting student debt were there any consequences?

Sad thing is the dems are going to waste millions in court trying to hamstring the president the people voted in. Even if they win in court at the taxpayers expense it will also prevent the taxpayers from getting the benefits of the changes.

Sad all round, the left have just lost the plot.

The DOJ aren't likely to prosecute a sitting president.
The democrats don't have the numbers to impeach.

The first court case locking Trumps team and treasury secretary out of treasury is unconstitutional.
The judge will get slapped down by SCOTUS.

Who gets to decide policy in the US?
Is it the President who campaigned with this won house senate and popular vote.
Is it some unelected bureacrat with an activist judge

Baron missed the first name in the thread title.

Easy to miss. South African billionaires are rather forgettable, aren't they?

Musk is AUTHORISED by Trump, paki.

authorise, verb
give official permission for or approval to an undertaking or agent.

Musk and Trump still have to work within the Constitution and the Law.

It's literally in black and white. Rule of law? I thought that was important?

Not anymore?

They are working lawfully.

What laws have been broken?

Who to believe?

Frank, the white supremacist troll, or Laurence Tribe, one of the nation’s leading and preeminent constitutional scholars and a professor emeritus at Harvard Law School?

Laurence Tribe, one of the nation’s leading and preeminent constitutional scholars and a professor emeritus at Harvard Law School, has already argued that much of Trump’s blitzkrieg of executive orders on the day of his inauguration disregards the US constitution. He told the Guardian he saw Musk’s actions as furthering that culture.

On whether Doge and Musk can legally have this much power over an array of government departments, Tribe was emphatic: “NO.”

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