Frank wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 8:18pm:


Executive orders are directives from the President that manage operations within the federal government. However, they cannot override existing laws or directly grant private individuals or companies (like Elon Musk or DOGE) access to sensitive government data unless explicitly authorised by Congress or under statutory authority.

Fourth Amendment (Unreasonable Searches & Seizures): If an EO is being used to force access to private taxpayer information held by the IRS or Treasury, this would likely violate privacy protections under the Fourth Amendment, as well as 26 U.S. Code § 6103, which makes IRS records confidential except under specific legal provisions.

Separation of Powers: Congress, not the President, has the constitutional power over taxation and appropriations (Article I, Section 8). While executive agencies administer these laws, an EO cannot lawfully circumvent existing restrictions on data access without legislation.
If Musk or DOGE are accessing government-held financial data under an EO without proper statutory backing, it could be challenged in court as an unconstitutional overreach.

Which the federal court so far agrees with.

USAID is primarily funded through appropriations bills passed by Congress, meaning that its budget and expenditures are legally mandated. Once Congress authorises and appropriates funding:

Impoundment Control Act (1974): The President cannot unilaterally refuse to spend funds that Congress has authorised, except under very narrow conditions (such as national security emergencies).

Separation of Powers: The President cannot override congressional spending decisions simply through an EO. Any attempt to block USAID funding without legal justification would likely be struck down as unconstitutional.

If Musk or DOGE (or any private actors) are interfering in this process, that would likely be illegal unless they are acting within an agency under specific delegated authority. Even then, it would face legal challenges.

If Musk or DOGE are accessing IRS, Treasury, or other government data under an EO without congressional authority, it is likely unconstitutional and unlawful.

The President cannot stop USAID from spending congressionally approved funds through an EO unless they have a legal basis (such as national security concerns or legislative loopholes).

Any such actions could face lawsuits and injunctions in federal court and have.  Trump and Elon have ignored those court rulings.

That is a huge problem.

Frank wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 9:35pm:


KangAnon wrote on Feb 14^th, 2025 at 9:23am:


Frank's "fact checking" only seems to go as far as reading the Babylon Bee and posting the articles here (and never providing a link, of course).

I wouldn't be surprised if he has it as the home page in his web browser.

Leroy wrote on Feb 14^th, 2025 at 9:35am:


He's just tariffed the low-paid, dear, so not sure what tax cuts you're referring to.

Your DL's there to cut taxes and increase profits for the top 1%, that's all. Ask Bobi.

Oh look - he's gone.

Leroy wrote on Feb 14^th, 2025 at 9:35am:


His tax plan during the campaign had that very outcome.  We'll see what he implements, but he will either give tax breaks to the top to brackets, paid for by tax increases to the rest, or he will have lied again on the campaign and will implement something that the people didn't vote on.

KangAnon wrote on Feb 14^th, 2025 at 4:42pm:


Something like this?

Frank wrote on Feb 14^th, 2025 at 4:46pm:



yes - there is too much retarded faggotry on this forum.

Karnal wrote on Feb 14^th, 2025 at 4:31pm:






"Winning the election gives Republicans no right to run this country," shouted Senator Elizabeth Warren at a protest. "They cannot simply come in and take control of governmental agencies simply because people voted for them. We must employ every means possible to resist this takeover."

Democrats have turned to the streets in anger as Republicans continue to assert that being elected puts them in charge. "People voting for Trump to be President doesn't magically make him the boss," explained Senator Schumer. "Trump cannot be allowed to come in and issue these executive orders, just because he is the Executive. Rest assured, the Democrats will fight with all of our hearts to stop the people who were elected from being in power."

At publishing time, Democrats had announced that the only thing Trump was actually allowed to be in charge of was pardoning that turkey on Thanksgiving.