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Feb 15th, 2025 at 7:36pm
 
When fraud smacks you in the face, democrat lawyer with her own NGO funded by USAID for decades, anyone want to guess how much she rakes in from this. Her husband is the judge that is trying to stop Trump, no conflict of interest here folks, he's just protecting his earnings.

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The wife of one of the so called 'activist' Judges who is blocking President Donald Trump's executive orders - Judge John Bates - is married to the founder of a USAID - Funded NGO.

Carol Rhees - who is also a democrat attorney - started the NGO Hope for Children in Ethiopia - that has been receiving USAID taxpayer money for decades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXMDSpKa7Gs
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Reply #1 - Feb 15th, 2025 at 8:04pm
 
Just in case you think it was a one off:
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Judge Who Blocked Trump’s USAID Cuts - Donated $700K To Dems To ‘Buy’ Judicial Seat

the Judge who blocked President Donald Trump from cutting waste, fraud and overspending from USAID.
Judge Jack McConnel has now become the center of controversy after videos show him calling Trump a tyrant and articles that seem to show he paid to get his position. 
People are pointing to a 2010 article from Politico – that reveals that McConnell donated more than $700 thousand dollars to Democrats, essentially buying his lifetime judicial seat.  Including thousands to Senators Jack Reed and Sheldon Whitehouse—the very senators who handpicked him for Obama – then voted to confirm.
The article details how McConnells donations were significantly more than any other Obama appointees – with the next in line being now Supreme court justice Elena Kagan who donated $12,000.
At the time Sen. Jeff Sessions called it “pay to play,” accusing McConnell of suing corporations, so his firm could rake in big bucks, which would then be “plowed” back into Democratic campaigns.
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Reply #2 - Feb 15th, 2025 at 9:34pm
 
Spin whatever conspiracy you like, Trump does not have the constitutional authority to stop payment for money that has been authorised by congress.

It's literally the law.
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Reply #3 - Feb 15th, 2025 at 9:39pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 15th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
Spin whatever conspiracy you like, Trump does not have the constitutional authority to stop payment for money that has been authorised by congress.

It's literally the law.


With Musk and Trump showing the people what the dems are doing with their tax money it won't take long before the dems completely bury themselves.
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Reply #4 - Feb 16th, 2025 at 6:49am
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 15th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
Spin whatever conspiracy you like, Trump does not have the constitutional authority to stop payment for money that has been authorised by congress.

It's literally the law.

DOGE is a government department. Trump is the head of the government and of the state.
Musk is a government employee.

It is all done by the government. Don't be Sad.
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Reply #5 - Feb 16th, 2025 at 6:53am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 6:49am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 15th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
Spin whatever conspiracy you like, Trump does not have the constitutional authority to stop payment for money that has been authorised by congress.

It's literally the law.

DOGE is a government department. Trump is the head of the government and of the state.
Musk is a government employee.

It is all done by the government. Don't be Sad.



Oh dear.

I mean, it's sad enough that you believe that ... what's diabolically tragic is that you want it to be true.

Who hurt you, Frank?
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Reply #6 - Feb 16th, 2025 at 7:10am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 6:49am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 15th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
Spin whatever conspiracy you like, Trump does not have the constitutional authority to stop payment for money that has been authorised by congress.

It's literally the law.

DOGE is a government department. Trump is the head of the government and of the state.
Musk is a government employee.

It is all done by the government. Don't be Sad.


You have no idea what you're talking about do you.  You're tell me what you want to be true, not what is...
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Reply #7 - Feb 16th, 2025 at 7:36am
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 7:10am:
Frank wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 6:49am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 15th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
Spin whatever conspiracy you like, Trump does not have the constitutional authority to stop payment for money that has been authorised by congress.

It's literally the law.

DOGE is a government department. Trump is the head of the government and of the state.
Musk is a government employee.

It is all done by the government. Don't be Sad.


You have no idea what you're talking about do you.  You're tell me what you want to be true, not what is...

DOGE is a government department.
Trump is head of government.
Musk is a government employee.



https://doge.gov/

An official website of the United States government





Check it out.



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Reply #8 - Feb 16th, 2025 at 8:47am
 
Trump is just too agile for his opponents.

By signing 100s or maybe 1000s of executive orders. His opponents trying to use the law have no hope of keeping up

The law will take months or years to catch up with even a small percentage of it

So Trump is going to get his way

Joh bjelke (also a business man) understood this.

Act swiftly
Tear down some hotel or start building a dam before the lawyer types can act.
So much momentum that your opponents end up looking like cry babies and you look energetic and decisive ⁷
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Reply #9 - Feb 16th, 2025 at 10:05am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 7:36am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 7:10am:
Frank wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 6:49am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 15th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
Spin whatever conspiracy you like, Trump does not have the constitutional authority to stop payment for money that has been authorised by congress.

It's literally the law.

DOGE is a government department. Trump is the head of the government and of the state.
Musk is a government employee.

It is all done by the government. Don't be Sad.


You have no idea what you're talking about do you.  You're tell me what you want to be true, not what is...

DOGE is a government department.
Trump is head of government.
Musk is a government employee.



https://doge.gov/

An official website of the United States government





Check it out.





DOGE is not an official federal agency or department. The US government has a list of all official agencies on USA.gov, and DOGE is not among them. No legislation has ever established such a department, and it does not have a Secretary, a budget, or any legal authority.

It is a "department" in name only.

Stop pretending to be so stupid.
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Reply #10 - Feb 16th, 2025 at 10:09am
 

KangAnon wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 10:05am:
DOGE is not an official federal agency or department.


Enough of the retarded, Sad faggotry, Enervated.

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1.  Purpose.  This Executive Order establishes the Department of Government Efficiency to implement the President’s DOGE Agenda, by modernizing Federal technology and software to maximize governmental efficiency and productivity.

Sec. 2.  Definitions.  As used in this order:

(a)  “Agency” has the meaning given to it in section 551 of title 5, United States Code, except that such term does not include the Executive Office of the President or any components thereof.

(b)  “Agency Head” means the highest-ranking official of an agency, such as the Secretary, Administrator, Chairman, or Director, unless otherwise specified in this order.

Sec. 3.  DOGE Structure.  (a)  Reorganization and Renaming of the United States Digital Service.  The United States Digital Service is hereby publicly renamed as the United States DOGE Service (USDS) and shall be established in the Executive Office of the President.

(b)  Establishment of a Temporary Organization.  There shall be a USDS Administrator established in the Executive Office of the President who shall report to the White House Chief of Staff. There is further established within USDS, in accordance with section 3161 of title 5, United States Code, a temporary organization known as “the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization”.  The U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization shall be headed by the USDS Administrator and shall be dedicated to advancing the President’s 18-month DOGE agenda.  The U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization shall terminate on July 4, 2026. The termination of the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization shall not be interpreted to imply the termination, attenuation, or amendment of any other authority or provision of this order.

(c)  DOGE Teams.  In consultation with USDS, each Agency Head shall establish within their respective Agencies a DOGE Team of at least four employees, which may include Special Government Employees, hired or assigned within thirty days of the date of this Order. Agency Heads shall select the DOGE Team members in consultation with the USDS Administrator.  Each DOGE Team will typically include one DOGE Team Lead, one engineer, one human resources specialist, and one attorney.  Agency Heads shall ensure that DOGE Team Leads coordinate their work with USDS and advise their respective Agency Heads on implementing the President ‘s DOGE Agenda.

Sec. 4.  Modernizing Federal Technology and Software to Maximize Efficiency and Productivity.  (a)  The USDS Administrator shall commence a Software Modernization Initiative to improve the quality and efficiency of government-wide software, network infrastructure, and information technology (IT) systems.  Among other things, the USDS Administrator shall work with Agency Heads to promote inter-operability between agency networks and systems, ensure data integrity, and facilitate responsible data collection and synchronization.

(b)  Agency Heads shall take all necessary steps, in coordination with the USDS Administrator and to the maximum extent consistent with law, to ensure USDS has full and prompt access to all unclassified agency records, software systems, and IT systems.  USDS shall adhere to rigorous data protection standards.

(c)  This Executive Order displaces all prior executive orders and regulations, insofar as they are subject to direct presidential amendment, that might serve as a barrier to providing USDS access to agency records and systems as described above.

Sec. 5.  General Provisions.  (a)  Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i)   the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii)  the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b)  This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c)  This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

THE WHITE HOUSE,

      January 20, 2025.
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Reply #11 - Feb 16th, 2025 at 10:17am
 
They are not a Government department.  Trump doesn't have the power to create one with an executive order.

In order to create a Government Department you need to:

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1. Identify the Need
A new department is usually proposed in response to a significant issue that existing agencies cannot effectively address. There needs to be clear justification, such as national security concerns, economic policy gaps, or inefficiencies in government operations.

2. Drafting Legislation
A bill must be introduced in Congress to establish the department. This legislation typically:
  • Defines the department’s mission and responsibilities.
  • Outlines its structure and leadership (e.g., a Cabinet-level Secretary).
  • Specifies funding sources and budgetary requirements.
  • Identifies which existing agencies or functions (if any) will be merged into the new department.

3. Congressional Approval
The bill must pass through the House of Representatives and the Senate, often requiring hearings, expert testimony, and debate. Committees such as the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability or the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee may be involved in reviewing the proposal.

4. Presidential Approval
If both chambers of Congress pass the bill, it is sent to the President for signature. If signed into law, the new department is officially created.


When did any of that happen?

Oh, it didn't, Trump just signed an order on day 1.

Therefore DOGE is not a Government Department, they have no legal authority, and their members have not been vetted or approved by Congress so they are private citizens with no clearance whatsoever.

This means much of what they are doing breaks multiple laws and in some cases is even unconstitutional.

Stop pretending to be so stupid.
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Reply #12 - Feb 16th, 2025 at 10:24am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 10:09am:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 10:05am:
DOGE is not an official federal agency or department.


Enough of the retarded, Sad faggotry, Enervated.


Slurs aside, you couldn't be more wrong.

You're left with one simple task, admit your mistake.

Or will you take a page from Trump's playbook? Recall when his White House incorrectly listed the Deputy FBI Director as the Director, only to double down on the error by officially swapping their roles rather than admitting fault?

A blunder so absurd it rivals the infamous Sharpie-on-the-map debacle, only, somehow, even more stupid...

And now, the irony is in full force: the mistakenly promoted Director refuses to hand over the names of FBI agents who investigated the January 6th insurrectionists. Another self-inflicted wound. Another failure.

Failure after failure after failure after failure.

Trump’s leadership is beginning to resemble the very caricature his supporters claim to despise, an unqualified, token appointment bumbling from one catastrophe to the next.
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Reply #13 - Feb 16th, 2025 at 10:26am
 
Just a little insertion.... here.... don't be frightened..... now that didn't hurt, did it?

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Reply #14 - Feb 16th, 2025 at 10:47am
 
KangAnon wrote on Feb 16th, 2025 at 10:17am:
They are not a Government department.  Trump doesn't have the power to create one with an executive order.

In order to create a Government Department you need to:

Quote:
1. Identify the Need
A new department is usually proposed in response to a significant issue that existing agencies cannot effectively address. There needs to be clear justification, such as national security concerns, economic policy gaps, or inefficiencies in government operations.

2. Drafting Legislation
A bill must be introduced in Congress to establish the department. This legislation typically:
  • Defines the department’s mission and responsibilities.
  • Outlines its structure and leadership (e.g., a Cabinet-level Secretary).
  • Specifies funding sources and budgetary requirements.
  • Identifies which existing agencies or functions (if any) will be merged into the new department.

3. Congressional Approval
The bill must pass through the House of Representatives and the Senate, often requiring hearings, expert testimony, and debate. Committees such as the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability or the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee may be involved in reviewing the proposal.

4. Presidential Approval
If both chambers of Congress pass the bill, it is sent to the President for signature. If signed into law, the new department is officially created.


When did any of that happen?

Oh, it didn't, Trump just signed an order on day 1.

Therefore DOGE is not a Government Department, they have no legal authority, and their members have not been vetted or approved by Congress so they are private citizens with no clearance whatsoever.

This means much of what they are doing breaks multiple laws and in some cases is even unconstitutional.

Stop pretending to be so stupid.


If you are not the president then that is the procedure you follow, just like when I want ed a new car at work I would submit a form to HR who would process it then sent to the CEO to sign off. If the CEO wanted a new car he would just sign it off, he doesn't have to follow the same procedure as those under him who need his signature.

You would have noticed this on the end of your procedure "President for signature. If signed into law, the new department is officially created."


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