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Reply #135 - Feb 21st, 2025 at 10:09pm
 
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Reply #136 - Feb 21st, 2025 at 10:12pm
 
Well - it looks like it all depends on which kind of extreme left or right media you follow...  Amurika is a funny place.. with them it seems everything is all or nothing...
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Reply #137 - Feb 21st, 2025 at 11:38pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2025 at 9:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21st, 2025 at 9:50pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 21st, 2025 at 9:38pm:
Recent polls say that about 8% of voters support how Trump is handling Ukraine, Around 80% don't support Trump on this.


His numbers are down in most polls.

Americans have realised what a huge mistake they've made.

"New polling shows Trump’s approval ratings declining — and a number of major warning signs appearing."




The people love him:





Stephen is one of those good people - A white nationalist. Bit of a trend in the Trump team but it doesn't matter if you are white. Especially if you have the correct salute.
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Reply #139 - Feb 21st, 2025 at 11:42pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2025 at 9:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21st, 2025 at 9:50pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 21st, 2025 at 9:38pm:
Recent polls say that about 8% of voters support how Trump is handling Ukraine, Around 80% don't support Trump on this.


His numbers are down in most polls.

Americans have realised what a huge mistake they've made.

"New polling shows Trump’s approval ratings declining — and a number of major warning signs appearing."




The people love him:





Yet Trumps numbers have tanked because it isnt the will of the people - the people hate it.
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Re: Trump to Ukraine: you shouldn't have started war
Reply #140 - Feb 21st, 2025 at 11:47pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 21st, 2025 at 10:12pm:
Well - it looks like it all depends on which kind of extreme left or right media you follow...  Amurika is a funny place.. with them it seems everything is all or nothing...


The first numbers from Maddow were all Gallop poll data - Gallop is considered balanced. She quoted similar numbers from about another 5 polsters with the same trends. There are a lot of sources also going with the Gallop data and saying the same thing. Nobody would expect the right to be using this data.
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Reply #141 - Yesterday at 9:52am
 
Leroy wrote on Feb 21st, 2025 at 2:26pm:
KangAnon wrote on Feb 21st, 2025 at 10:49am:
It's funny how many pro-Russian people are coming out of the woodwork in their defence of Trump.

What an odd crossover.


It is odd isn't it, we hate Putin and you hate Trump.



you hate Putin? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Don't make me laugh. You've done nothing but defend his position and repeat his bullshit excuses for him
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Reply #142 - Yesterday at 6:52pm
 

Trump is winning:



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14423219/volodymyr-zelensky-surrenders-...


Zelensky surrenders to Trump and 'will sign mineral deal within hours'


22 February 2025

Donald Trump appears to have won his trade standoff with Volodymyr Zelensky, as the Ukrainian president is set to give in and sign a deal giving the U.S. access to deposits of critical minerals.


The deal was seen as crucial for satisfying Washington's demands for a peace settlement between Ukraine and Russia to end their three-year long war.

Zelensky told a nightly video address on Friday that teams of American and Ukrainian negotiators are working on a draft agreement, signaling an imminent deal.

'This is an agreement that can strengthen our relations, and the key is to work out the details to ensure its effectiveness,' he said. 'I look forward to the outcome - a just result.'

It's a staggering surrender by Zelensky, who just days earlier angrily lashed out at Trump saying: 'I can't sell our country.'

Trump told reporters in the Oval Office on Friday evening: 'We're signing an agreement, hopefully in the next fairly short period of time.'

A deal could be struck as soon as Saturday, people briefed on negotiations told the Wall Street Journal. The exact terms are not yet clear, however Trump had been pushing for $500 billion worth of minerals in exchange for continued military support.

It comes after Zelensky angered Trump so much during negotiations that the president threatened to completely pull US funding from Ukraine, Axios reported.
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Reply #143 - Yesterday at 9:51pm
 

And what about minerals under Russian occupied land?
I'd love to see the fine print.

The whole thing is a bit immoral -
it was either Russia took all of Ukraine and got all the goodies or now –
the Yanks get all the goodies.
They are carving up a weak country for whatever they can get.
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